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green73
05-11-2013, 08:04 AM
The HBO host has become a leading advocate of the view that Islam is uniquely violent and threatening. Does that hold up under critical scrutiny?

Last night I was on Bill Maher's HBO show "Real Time". There have always been numerous views of Maher's with which I agree. But he has become one of the most vocal and extreme advocates of the view that - while religion generally should be criticized - Islam is a uniquely threatening and destructive force and that Muslims are uniquely oppressive and violent, and that mentality has infected many of his policy views (see here and here for some comprehensive background; just two weeks ago, he had a fairly typical outburst on this topic). When I was scheduled to do the show, I was hoping that the opportunity would arise to debate these views (or that I could create the opportunity), and last night it did.

The resulting exchange, which was somewhat contentious and sustained for a show like this, can be seen on the recorder below. The segment begins at the 4:45 mark and our specific exchange begins a couple of minutes after that (the first segment on this video is a debate on whether Benghazi is now a "scandal" in light of newly released documents). Our exchange ends up, I believe, capturing the crux of this debate - which is essentially similar to the one I had recently with Sam Harris and friends - rather well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rvxpFrHUzso
http://youtu.be/rvxpFrHUzso

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/11/bill-maher-muslims-islam-benghazi

Warlord
05-11-2013, 08:12 AM
Thanks for posting... some common sense from the liberal Greenwald although I'd be more impressed if his defense of the Bill of Rights extends to the 2nd and 10th amendment as well.

NOVALibertarian
05-11-2013, 09:59 AM
Greenwald is one of the few Liberals who has a mind of his own. He's been a defender of civil liberties for a while now.

economics102
05-11-2013, 10:21 AM
Wow, that was some impressive rapid-fire truth-dropping by Greenwald at the end. There's not a lot of people who can shut Bill Maher up on the subject of religion and war.

phill4paul
05-11-2013, 10:55 AM
I love it when Maher get's owned. Someone should do a "Best Of" ownage compilation.

robert68
05-11-2013, 11:02 AM
In my neck of the woods, there’s one of these huge modern non-traditional Christian church’s, and it has countless flag poles, with full sized American flags, running along its property near the street. Some day I’m gonna count how many there are.

President Bush II was quite religious and had candle light vigils in the white house with his fellow "Christians". The neocons in his administration were largely Jewish. "Democracy" is often window dressing for the wishes of a great many religious people/groups.

whippoorwill
05-11-2013, 11:52 AM
Boss