Reclusive Lauryn Hill Speaks Out About Tax Trial

[AuH20]

Interesting comments.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/465175/20130507/lauryn-hill-tax-trial.htm

Too bad she couldn't have commented about the perversion of the 16th amendment. Many of these celebrities caught for tax evasion always miss the obvious.

[mczerone]

I'd stay away from the link unless you like 18 audio/video ads playing at random times and in random places on the page.

Here's what I see as the interesting quotes:


Fugees singer Hill, 37, was sentenced to three months' jail followed by three months' home confinement for failing to pay $500,000 to the taxman in the United States.


Hill pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion last year. Her lawyers said she had paid more than $970,000 of an outstanding tax bill which amounted to more than $2m.


During her trial, Hill was ordered by the judge in Newark, New Jersey to undergo counselling because of her conspiracy theories - including that artists are being oppressed by a plot involving the military and media.


"Over-commercialisation and its resulting restrictions and limitations can be very damaging and distorting to the inherent nature of the individual."


She told the court: "I am a child of former slaves who had a system imposed on them. I had an economic system imposed on me."

Notes:

She paid nearly twice her "bill" - but was still imprisoned.

She's being forced to see a counselor for noticing that the govt has infiltrated the pop media, and this is called a "conspiracy theory" despite the blatant evidence for it.

She's keen on "inherent nature of the individual" - maybe some Mises material could be forwarded her way...

My opinion on Lauryn Hill just went from neutral to positive.

[Petar]

She is probably the typical leftist whacko who believes that free-market capitalism is oppressive.

Hard to find sympathy for completely disingenuous idiots.

I mean what does "over commercialization" have to do with the IRS raping everybody?

[AuH20]

She is probably the typical leftist whacko who believes that free-market capitalism is oppressive.

Hard to find sympathy for completely disingenuous idiots.

I mean what does "over commercialization" have to do with the IRS raping everybody?

She had to go off tangent with slavery and over commercialization instead of pointing out the obvious. The men in DC have no lawful authority to the product of her blood, sweat and tears.

[ZENemy]

Punishing those that think otherwise.

[dannno]

She's really incredible, always been a big fan of the fugees and her solo career.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KpeCk6NyZU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QKqFPRZSA

[Root]

I went to high school with her (she was a year or two behind me). She is the child of well-to-do parents who lived in a wealthy neighborhood.

[ninepointfive]

So she's in jail, while GE pays no tax last year - hhmmm

[Sonny Tufts]

"I had an economic system imposed on me."

Yeah, and just how much did that system enable you to earn, dumbass?

Like it or not, the income tax is lawful.

[puppetmaster]

"I had an economic system imposed on me."

Yeah, and just how much did that system enable you to earn, dumbass?

Like it or not, the income tax is lawful.

It is immoral...
Forcing one to fund unjust wars and murder of innocent children is not right nor should it ever be lawful in a civilized planet.

[unknown]

"I had an economic system imposed on me."

Yeah, and just how much did that system enable you to earn, dumbass?

Like it or not, the income tax is lawful.

This has been one of Ron Paul's biggest issues, the idea that no one else is entitled to the fruits of your labor.

Along with most if not all Libertarians, hes been an advocate of eliminating the IRS altogether.

The IRS' enforcement is done via court precedence. The whole issue of there being an actual law was raised in the Whitey Harrell trial.

Its quite draconian if you think about it, the idea that someone can be stripped of their freedom for not paying taxes...

[Sonny Tufts]

The IRS' enforcement is done via court precedence. The whole issue of there being an actual law was raised in the Whitey Harrell trial.

It's done via statutes that were passed by Congress and signed by the President. The idea that there's no law requiring the payment of income tax is a 100% loser. Yes, Mr. Harell has raised a number of crackpot arguments against the federal income tax and has lost every time. His only win was an acquittal for failing to pay Illinois income tax. See http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/gaylon-harrell

[Lucille]

The Hounds @ Fox News Approve IRS Hounding Of Lauryn Hill
http://barelyablog.com/the-hounds-fox-news-approve-irs-hounding-of-lauryn-hill/#ixzz2SiihHX8F


Meta-analysis interests me, as you know; the coverage of the coverage. Far more revealing to me than the quotidian details of Lauryn Hills’ hounding by the IRS was the manner in which Fox News, the so-called conservative network, framed Ms. Hill’s failure to pay her taxes.

After all, Hill’s story is humdrum—that of the theft of private property by the state (anyone still want to argue that taxes are not paid at the point of a gun (http://www.ilanamercer.com/phprunner/public_article_list_view.php?editid1=349)? “Forfeit your private property or lose your liberty”).

Both Shepard Smith and Megyn Kelley (http://barelyablog.com/the-fox-is-guarding-the-chicken-scoop-sic/) gloated that the threat of prison did the trick and compelled the singer to fork over close to a million dollars in taxes owed. At Fox News, this was a good-news story.

The Good “Guy” here is Ms. Hill. Taxation rejects a man’s absolute and natural right to his property and vests property rights in the political establishment. The 16th Amendment (“The Number of The Beast”) (http://www.ilanamercer.com/phprunner/public_article_list_view.php?editid1=335) does just that.

[JorgeStevenson]

She didn't build that radio station. She didn't build those airwaves.

[Ender]

"I had an economic system imposed on me."

Yeah, and just how much did that system enable you to earn, dumbass?

Like it or not, the income tax is lawful.

The law is LEGAL, not lawful.

Big difference.

Maybe you should study up before you call other people a dumbass.

[jmdrake]

It's done via statutes that were passed by Congress and signed by the President. The idea that there's no law requiring the payment of income tax is a 100% loser. Yes, Mr. Harell has raised a number of crackpot arguments against the federal income tax and has lost every time. His only win was an acquittal for failing to pay Illinois income tax. See http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/gaylon-harrell

Actually, even some critics of tax protesters admit that the 16th amendment wasn't properly ratified.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SGd-oDxzRk

[jmdrake]

She is probably the typical leftist whacko who believes that free-market capitalism is oppressive.

Hard to find sympathy for completely disingenuous idiots.

I mean what does "over commercialization" have to do with the IRS raping everybody?

Yeah. Let's attack someone who agrees with us that the system is wrong because she might not understand exactly why. :rolleyes:

[angelatc]

So she's in jail, while GE pays no tax last year - hhmmm

Liberal alert!!!!!

Nine billion dollars of GE's profits came overseas, outside the jurisdiction of U.S. tax law. GE wasn't taxed on $5 billion in U.S. "profits" because it utilized numerous deductions and tax credits, including tax breaks for investments in low-income housing, green energy, research and development, as well as depreciation of property. (Most people call those "Expenses.")

[ninepointfive]

Liberal alert!!!!!

Nine billion dollars of GE's profits came overseas, outside the jurisdiction of U.S. tax law. GE wasn't taxed on $5 billion in U.S. "profits" because it utilized numerous deductions and tax credits, including tax breaks for investments in low-income housing, green energy, research and development, as well as depreciation of property. (Most people call those "Expenses.")




she wasn't creative enough in claiming the deductions....

[angelatc]

she wasn't creative enough in claiming the deductions....

There's not really all that much to "create." Tax laws are pretty specific about what you can and can't deduct.

[ninepointfive]

There's not really all that much to "create." Tax laws are pretty specific about what you can and can't deduct.

yeah - how about a 501c3 where you indirectly control the board members.... just one of many ways to be creative....

[Sonny Tufts]

Actually, even some critics of tax protesters admit that the 16th amendment wasn't properly ratified.

The 16th Amendment is really beside the point, because the authority to impose an income tax comes from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution. That's why the first blue overlay that appears in the clip is wrong in claiming that the first two income tax acts were declared unconstitutional. The nation's first income tax was enacted in 1861 and amended a few times during the Civil War. Its constitutionality was upheld by a unanimous Supreme Court in 1881.

The second income tax came in in 1894, and in a 5-4 decision in 1895 the Supereme Court held that it was unconsitutional only because a tax on investment income such as dividends, interest, and rents (but not wages) was seen to be a direct tax that had to be apportioned among the States. The 16th Amendment was designed to overrule this decision by authorizing a tax on incomes regardless of the kind of income involved. The point, however, is that wages are taxable without regard to the 16th Amendment because a tax on wages has never been considered as a direct tax in the United States.

[jmdrake]

Applied to Laruryn Hill, she was not taxes on wages but on income from her intellectual property.


The 16th Amendment is really beside the point, because the authority to impose an income tax comes from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution. That's why the first blue overlay that appears in the clip is wrong in claiming that the first two income tax acts were declared unconstitutional. The nation's first income tax was enacted in 1861 and amended a few times during the Civil War. Its constitutionality was upheld by a unanimous Supreme Court in 1881.

The second income tax came in in 1894, and in a 5-4 decision in 1895 the Supereme Court held that it was unconsitutional only because a tax on investment income such as dividends, interest, and rents (but not wages) was seen to be a direct tax that had to be apportioned among the States. The 16th Amendment was designed to overrule this decision by authorizing a tax on incomes regardless of the kind of income involved. The point, however, is that wages are taxable without regard to the 16th Amendment because a tax on wages has never been considered as a direct tax in the United States.

[Sonny Tufts]

Applied to Laruryn Hill, she was not taxes on wages but on income from her intellectual property.

Any money she earned for performing would be treated the same as wages -- a tax on that kind of income wouldn't be a direct tax and would be constitutional even if there were no 16th Amendment. On the other hand, any money she earned as royalties on songs she wrote would be investment income, and and a tax on such income would (absent the 16th Amendment) be considered a direct tax under the 1895 Supreme Court decision. However, it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court would follow that decision today. The 1895 decicion was severely criticized when it was rendered, and it has the dubious distinction of being one of only 3 Supreme Court decisions to have been overturned by constitutional amendments. Another major holding of the case (that interest on state and local bonds is constitutionally exempt from federal taxes) was overturned by the Court itself in 1987, and my guess is that if there were no 16th Amendment today's Court would overturn the rest of the prior decision as well and uphold an unapportioned tax on investment income.

[angelatc]

yeah - how about a 501c3 where you indirectly control the board members.... just one of many ways to be creative....

That doesn't even make sense.

[angelatc]

. On the other hand, any money she earned as royalties on songs she wrote would be investment income,

Point of order: Royalties : Royalties from copyrights, patents, and oil, gas and mineral properties are taxable as ordinary income. (http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-%26-Self-Employed/What-is-Taxable-and-Nontaxable-Income%3F)

[ninepointfive]

That doesn't even make sense.

what would you like to know?

[Antischism]

Libarrulzzz!!!!!1111 ATTACK!

[libertyjam]

The 16th Amendment is really beside the point, because the authority to impose an income tax comes from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the Constitution. That's why the first blue overlay that appears in the clip is wrong in claiming that the first two income tax acts were declared unconstitutional. The nation's first income tax was enacted in 1861 and amended a few times during the Civil War. Its constitutionality was upheld by a unanimous Supreme Court in 1881.

The second income tax came in in 1894, and in a 5-4 decision in 1895 the Supereme Court held that it was unconsitutional only because a tax on investment income such as dividends, interest, and rents (but not wages) was seen to be a direct tax that had to be apportioned among the States. The 16th Amendment was designed to overrule this decision by authorizing a tax on incomes regardless of the kind of income involved. The point, however, is that wages are taxable without regard to the 16th Amendment because a tax on wages has never been considered as a direct tax in the United States.

Except by the IRS itself, don't believe me? Go to the IRS website and read fpr yourself they call the income tax on wages a direct tax, because it is.

[jmdrake]

Any money she earned for performing would be treated the same as wages -- a tax on that kind of income wouldn't be a direct tax and would be constitutional even if there were no 16th Amendment.

Money from record sales isn't money from "performing" any more than money from book sales is money from "performing". It's a "royalty."

[Sonny Tufts]

Except by the IRS itself, don't believe me? Go to the IRS website and read fpr yourself they call the income tax on wages a direct tax, because it is.

The IRS website is wrong. Read the Pollock case, which struck down the 1894 tax insofar as it taxed investment income. The Court went out of its way to distinguish a tax on dividents, interest, etc. from a tax on wages; the former was seen as a direct tax, while the latter was not. No court in the history of the country has ever held that a tax on wages is a direct tax.

[Sonny Tufts]

Point of order: Royalties : Royalties from copyrights, patents, and oil, gas and mineral properties are taxable as ordinary income. (http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-%26-Self-Employed/What-is-Taxable-and-Nontaxable-Income%3F)


True, but that doesn't mean that it's not investment income for purposes of the Direct Tax Clause and the Pollock analysis. Short-term capital gains are also taxed as ordinary income, but they're still investment income.

[talkingpointes]

For those here that don't know -- Wyclef Jon here best friend ripped off almost the entire charity they did in Haiti two years ago, then had the balls to run as president there. My guess would be they are leftist.

[Lucille]

The Re-Education of Lauryn Hill
http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2013/5/15/the-re-education-of-lauryn-hill.html


Ready or not, Lauryn Hill of Fugees fame has found herself sentenced to three months in a cage for extortion evasion. The extortionists call it "tax evasion", but calling it by another name doesn't change what it really is.

This sort of harassment and kidnapping is fairly par for the course in the USSA, of course. Just ask Wesley Snipes or Willy Nelson. But there is a new twist this time around. The tax-funded judge has ordered that Hill undergo psychiatric care in what amounts to brainwashing and re-education. Why? According to them, simply for publicly proclaiming the fact that the music industry is designed to strangle true talent while promoting mindless drivel.

Let's just take a look at some of Lauryn's lyrics and compare them to some of the top illuminati symbol-flashing pop stars in her genre today to see if perhaps she has a point.


Ya'll can't handle the truth in a courtroom of lies
Perjures the jurors
Witness despised
Crooked lawyers
False Indictments publicized
It's entertainment...the arraignments
The subpoenas
High profile gladiators in bloodthirsty arenas
Enter the Dragon
Black-robe crooked-balance
Souls bought and sold and paroled for thirty talents
Court reporter catch the surface on the paper
File it in the system not acknowledged by the Maker
Swearing by the bible blatantly blasphemous
Publicly perpetrating that "In God We Trust"
Cross-examined by a master manipulator
The faster intimidator
Receiving the judge's favor
Deceiving sabers doing injury to they neighbors
For status, gratis, apparatus and legal waivers
See the bailiff
Representing security
Holding the word of God soliciting perjury
The prosecution
Political prostitution
The more money you pay.. the further away solution
[...]
I think Lauryn Hill might have a point!

THE RE-EDUCATION OF LAURYN HILL

Ironically, Lauryn Hill released her album, "The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill" in 1998. Today, in the US, Lauryn Hill is about to be forcibly re-educated.

Her crime? Believing in "conspiracy theories" that the music industry pushes out people like her who try to speak about the truth in favor of those like Minaj and Beyonce above. Whether or not she is correct isn't the point, however.

The point is that the US has begun "re-educating" countless people for any belief that doesn't jibe with what is pushed out by the mainstream presstitute propaganda machine. Brandon Raub was kidnapped for doing just that and sent to be re-educated.

The term re-education camp was the official title given to the prison camps operated by the government of Vietnam following the end of the Vietnam War. In such "re-education camps", the government imprisoned several hundred thousand former military officers and government workers from the former regime of South Vietnam. Reeducation as it was implemented in Vietnam was seen as both a means of revenge and a sophisticated technique of repression and indoctrination.

We'll have to see how outspoken Lauryn Hill is after her internment. If she tones down her lyrics and contempt for the fascistic music industry, then it will be clear she has been repressed, broken and -- to take play on a line from her most famous cover song -- she has been killed softly because of her songs.

GET OUT

One of Lauryn Hill's 2002 songs is called, "I Get Out" with a chorus stating, "I get out, I get out of all your boxes... I get out, you can't hold me in these chains."

Unfortunately for Lauryn, she didn't realize she should literally get out long ago. Artists, more than most, have the ability to easily escape slavery in the US. If she had been a TDV reader years ago, she would have realized that she should have become a citizen of another country without re-education camps and with no taxes that apply to her work, like St. Kitts, the Dominican Republic (DR) or Paraguay, and lived the Permanent Traveller/Prior Taxpayer (PT) lifestyle that we promote here. As an artist that is regularly touring this would have been incredibly easy to do.

She would have saved millions of dollars in extortion payments and no matter what she said about the US music industry it is quite doubtful that the governments of placed like the DR or Paraguay would find her statements cause for psychiatric internment!

Unfortunately Lauryn Hill is learning all of this too late. She probably never heard of options like this from her financial advisor or manager. It's too bad. But you don't have to make the same mistake.

[fisharmor]

She is probably the typical leftist whacko who believes that free-market capitalism is oppressive.

I've been listening to a lot of hip-hop for the last year... like it's the Pandora station I listen to 75% of the time.
I've been watching videos of interviews with people like KRS-One and others who are politically conscious.
I don't claim to fully understand what goes on in that community, but if there's one thing I've picked up, it's that they have the exact same problem that red-meat conservatives do: they fail to understand that the institution of violence that they don't like is backed up by an even bigger institution, and that without that backup, their pet problem wouldn't be possible, or wouldn't be as large as it is now.

I think it's totally understandable that people would leap to the conclusion that free market capitalism is the source of all their problems. I mean, they're being told ad nauseum that what we have actually is a free market, when it's not... and there actually is quite a bit of evidence that corporate interests are a big source of problems. They don't make the further leap that it's not the ultimate source, and I can forgive them for that, because nobody else does, either.