Obama To Ohio State U Grads: Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny

[sailingaway]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/05/obama_to_ohio_state_grads_reject_voices_that_warn_ about_government_tyranny.html

um....

No?


PRESIDENT OBAMA: Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted.

We have never been a people who place all our faith in government to solve our problems. We shouldn't want to. But we don't think the government is the source of all our problems, either. Because we understand that this democracy is ours. And as citizens, we understand that it's not about what America can do for us, it's about what can be done by us, together, through the hard and frustrating but absolutely necessary work of self-government. And class of 2013, you have to be involved in that process.

Well, but 'self governance' is the opposite of government governance, and this is not a Democracy, it is a Republic. That he treats it like a democracy is in fact tyranny over those rights protected FROM the majority.

[Sola_Fide]

Democracy is slavery.

[oyarde]

Govt in current form is Tyrany and Obummer is a Tyrant, get back with me when it becomes nuetral.

[jtstellar]

ugh try kindergarten obama.. university is a little late

[green73]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIOF5R-7rx8

[Christian Liberty]

They probably already believe the tyrant's pleasant sounding poison...

The mass murdering freak should just stop talking and go live in a cave for the next four years.

[green73]

ugh try kindergarten obama.. university is a little late

Why? The political IQ of most college graduates is that of a five year old.

[WhistlinDave]

This coming from a guy who promised he would use "common sense and science, not politics or ideology" in reforming the war on drugs, and then as soon as he takes office, escalated the raids on medical marijuana dispensaries in California and elsewhere... He's twice the tyrant Bush was if the war on drugs is any indication.

And... I wonder if people who have had innocent relatives blown to smithereens by drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen see the US government as a "brave, creative, and unique experiment in self-rule" or if they see it as a "sinister entity"?

[Quark]

I view this as a good thing. It means libertarians are rising fast enough that Obama must combat us with his ridiculous rhetoric.

[Mani]

I view this as a good thing. It means libertarians are rising fast enough that Obama must combat us with his ridiculous rhetoric.

That's what I thought as well.....apparently we are making enough noise that he needs to actually defend the gobernnt

[James Madison]

"That government is best which governs least." - Thomas Jefferson Old, White Terrorist

[Tod]

One of my customers' son graduated this year from OSU and they didn't attend the ceremony because Obama was the speaker. She noted,
"His appearance is precisely why we didn't attend Andy's graduation. Apparently many others didn't, either, because they increased the number of guests each grad could have from 3 to 13!"

[AFPVet]

Hmm... I wonder how many deaf ears that fell on. I know that at my school, the vast majority were Ron Paul and Alex Jones followers.

[Istvan]

And people thought Bush was bad...

[jkr]

stay the fuck out of my state MONGREL!

[Christian Liberty]

He still was. Obama's no better but I don't really see how he's worse, the system is the same and Bush would be doing the same things if he was still around...

[Brian4Liberty]

"Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan

[sailingaway]

One of my customers' son graduated this year from OSU and they didn't attend the ceremony because Obama was the speaker. She noted,"His appearance is precisely why we didn't attend Andy's graduation. Apparently many others didn't, either, because they increased the number of guests each grad could have from 3 to 13!"

Wow, that is a major increase!

[Son of Detroit]

Why? The political IQ of most college graduates is that of a five year old.

You're giving these Ohio State grads a little too much credit.

[WhistlinDave]

So be honest... (Question for anyone and everyone)

When you were reading the quote in the OP above, did you hear it inside your head in Obama's voice? (I did. Which made it piss me off even more.)

[Carson]

What an opportunity to walk out.

[Brian4Liberty]

Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works.

What a bunch of disingenuous bullcrap. "We the People" don't want government to do a lot of the things that you and your corporatist and socialist cronies have in mind. Of course we want to stop it. Pass a Consitutional Amendment if you want to prove that "We the People" approve. That is your hurdle. Anything less is not a mandate. It's a fraud.

[Brian4Liberty]

What an opportunity to walk out.

Boo. Turn your back. Walk out. Several options.

[TheTexan]

Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted.

LOL

[jclay2]

Sound like a pathetic attempt at mind control. Reminds me of this episode. nananananan leader:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnmhj58o0k

[Anti Federalist]

And people thought Bush was bad...

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. - W

[seraphson]

In the past century government has gotten nothing but bigger budgets, more taxes, more wars, more controls, and above all more power.
I would think anyone today, even the politically inept layman, can clearly see that relationship of our declining society follows in line with the expansiveness of government.
Yes, correlation does not prove causation but the statistics and history that has unfolded thus far leads to an obvious conclusion.
More government. More problems.

[Anti Federalist]

Sound like a pathetic attempt at mind control. Reminds me of this episode. nananananan leader:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnmhj58o0k

The Leader is Good,
The Leader is Great,
We surrender Our Will,
As of this date.

[Anti Federalist]

Better yet:

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

[seyferjm]

Makes me happy that I graduated last week from UC and not tOSU.

[gwax23]

I had friends graduating at that ceremony today. They ate up that bullshit.

[Weston White]

That speech is utterly laughable, being indicative to the very tyranny that he is speaking out against. That guy is such an utter putz.

Indeed, the liberty movement is making the impact of a mysteriously missing 500-kiloton nuke. Obviously this is greatly affecting Barry Soetoro’s overall happiness—a good thing, yes indeed.

[kcchiefs6465]

You're giving these Ohio State grads a little too much credit.
I ought to neg you.

Fuck a wolverine. :)

[Weston White]

What an opportunity to walk out.

Well given the context of his speech, it would have been an opportune time for another “Don’t tas me bro!” incident. Of course the graduating class would have most likely just had a good laugh, while cheering on the overly-large team of police doing the tasering; and of course Mr. Soeotoro, being the smooth hipster that he believes himself to be, would have used the incident to work in a snappy joke about the unfolding incident.

[tangent4ronpaul]

"The biggest trick the Devil ever pulled off was convincing people he didn't exist"

-t

[Son of Detroit]

I ought to neg you.

Fuck a wolverine. :)

Q: How do you get an Ohio State Alum off your porch?

A: Pay him for the pizza!

:D

[Anti Federalist]

I had friends graduating at that ceremony today. They ate up that bullshit.

Of course they did.

[jclay2]

Q: How do you get an Ohio State Alum off your porch?

A: Pay him for the pizza!

:D

Lol. Nice.

[economics102]

This video is well worth watching. The utterly schizophrenic nature of what he says is a brilliant illustration of the concept that democracy and freedom are not the same thing, and his bizarre repeated use of the phrase "self-governance" only draws attention to the fact that "we the people" are not self-governed but are governed by a vastly powerful government which we for all practical purposes have no control over. To refer to the present-day federal government as the individuals' realization of the practice of "self-governance" is some serious newspeak.

Even more headspinning, his repeated use of "we" to describe viewpoints that roughly half the country doesn't hold makes the tyrannical nature of democracy even clearer -- when I hear him it's literally as if he's trying to speak for me and claim I hold views I actually don't.

[DamianTV]

That is a fairly standard way of telling you what your opinion is expected to be.

[IDefendThePlatform]

That is a fairly standard way of telling you what your opinion is expected to be.


Does it seem like Obama uses the "this is what WE Americans believe in" line a lot? Maybe I just notice it more cuz he's such an asshat.

It always seems like when Ron Paul uses "we" he has the common courtesy to use it in reference to people who agree with his political philosophy, not as a blanket statement of the beliefs of ALL Americans.


Speak for yourself Barry. Your attempts at mind control don't hold up to Internet scrutiny.

[better-dead-than-fed]

By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adverse to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community.

There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects. ... -- Federalist No. 10 (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Federalist/10)

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

The assumption of course that tyranny is not all ready here...Oh the innocent and ignorant.

[green73]

Q: How do you get an Ohio State Alum off your porch?

A: Pay him for the pizza!

:D

One thing is for sure, zero of their football players were there.

[better-dead-than-fed]

Guantanamo prisoners must be relieved by Obama's reassurance.

[IDefendThePlatform]

Stefan Molyneux does a pretty nice job ripping it apart:

http://youtu.be/GDll7FTgcIA
http://youtu.be/GDll7FTgcIA

[otherone]

Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems.They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner.

Government is a sinister entity and Tyranny is always lurking just around the corner.
signed,
-Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, James Madison, etc, etc, etc

[matt0611]

Yeah...I mean Nazi German had democracy, their government was "them" right? No one had anything to worry about.

Also, don't worry about NDAA, patriot act, having a swat team storm in your house and kill you because you might have some plants, etc
because hey, the government is YOU!

[osan]

Well, but 'self governance' is the opposite of government governance, and this is not a Democracy, it is a Republic. That he treats it like a democracy is in fact tyranny over those rights protected FROM the majority.

i almost cannot believe he said what he said, but it goes to show how clueless a sock puppet he really is.

Far and away more disturbing is the fact that he was not booed off the podium. I would have stood tall and turned my back to him.

[SerArris]

One thing is for sure, zero of their football players were there.


Actually I believe Zach Borden was there...

[Lucille]

I view this as a good thing. It means libertarians are rising fast enough that Obama must combat us with his ridiculous rhetoric.


That's what I thought as well.....apparently we are making enough noise that he needs to actually defend the gobernnt
:)



This speech tells me that Obama and his ilk are afraid (http://lewrockwell.com/luther/luther30.1.html).

They are afraid that the people are beginning to awaken to their transparent attempts to enforce a totalitarian state.

They are afraid that those who tell the truth are beginning to get the message through.

The powers that be are taking the pulpit to try and lull them back to sleep.

This is a sign that we can’t stop spreading the word. We, the people who believe in freedom, are the ones that need to heed one small part of Obama’s speech. We need to resist the urge to be cynical, so that we can patiently continue spreading our message of resistance against tyranny.

We are making progress, enough progress that the tyrants are trying to perform damage control.


Stefan Molyneux does a pretty nice job ripping it apart:

http://youtu.be/GDll7FTgcIA
http://youtu.be/GDll7FTgcIA

Watching now, thanks.

[Lucille]

http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/07/obama-wants-millennials-to-love-big-gove


I couldn't help thinking that Obama and his speechwriters were responding to what they'd read in the New York Times a week before. In "For Millennials, a Tide of Cynicism," the Times reported new polling data from Harvard's Institute of Politics suggesting that Americans under the age of 30, "who turned out in droves to elect Mr. Obama in 2008, are increasingly turned off by politics. Experts fear their cynicism may become permanent." If so, that's pretty good news, because those mysterious "voices" are on to something.
[...]
It's a useful rhetorical trick, the president's decision to reframe skepticism toward overweening federal power as "cynicism." What's "really" cynical is how, in his Ohio State speech, Obama invokes "the Founders" to rebuke "voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate sinister entity" that can degenerate into tyranny.
[...]
Historically, our heritage of healthy skepticism has been an ally of sound government. It makes ambitious federal programs much less likely to pass, decreases support for foreign-policy adventurism, and makes the public less likely to endorse restrictions on civil liberties. When we trust too much is when we get into trouble.

When I first wrote about millennials' political attitudes for The Washington Examiner in 2009, I worried that the "Greatest Generation" would give way to "the Statist Generation." That's what the polling data seemed to show; Among other things, the 2007 Pew Political Values survey revealed "a generation gap in cynicism": where 62 percent of Americans overall view the federal government as wasteful and inefficient, just 42 percent of young people agreed.

These days, millennials are growing less gullible. Majorities disagree that "government spending is an effective way to increase economic growth" and they're skeptical about preventive war, among other results of the Harvard poll. Perhaps most significantly, "Today, only 39 percent of young voters trust the president to do the right thing, as opposed to 44 percent in 2010."

You can see why the president's worried: Kids today may just be wising up. Don't kick them off your lawn just yet.

[Lucille]

No tyranny lurking under the bed
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/05/no-tyranny-lurking-under-bed.html


Now go the fuck to sleep, says Big Brother Obama. Larry Correia takes exception:


Let’s see… The first American president that’s actually had to argue that he’s not a dictator, who has to have a big debate over whether it is okay to just waste American citizens on US soil without any due process, who broke thousands of federal laws in order to ship guns to Mexican drug cartels to drum up phony stats against his political enemies, and who blamed a terrorist attack on a YouTube video, says that the idea that potential tyranny looms is just silly.

Sounds legit to me!

Sure, Barack Obama has grown the federal leviathan bigger and stronger and more intrusive than it has ever been, and it was already bloated, absurd, and terrifying before, but talking about how this government could become too powerful and thus tyrannical like all of the other governments in human history which did the same thing before… well, that’s just crazy talk!

Why, one wonders, is it important to Obama that Americans "reject these voices", the voices that "incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity" and of lurking tyranny?

We know his executive branch is actively targeting political foes in a way that not even Nixon or Clinton ever dared. We know that his administration regularly lies to the press and the public, about Benghazi and about the IRS investigations. We know he is openly claiming the legal right to assassinate any American, inside or outside U.S. borders, without due process. And we know he is seeking to disarm the American people.

So, with all due respect, I submit it would be unwise to heed his advice. First, it is simple fact that government is a separate entity; it is neither the people nor the nation. Second, while government is not necessarily and intrinsically sinister, the actions of the current U.S. government and the present administration most certainly are.