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sailingaway
05-03-2013, 09:17 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/330513966730186752

Anti-Neocon
05-03-2013, 09:18 PM
Good, I can't stand that guy one bit.

sailingaway
05-03-2013, 09:18 PM
nor I but I think people were thinking about replacements in the House for him.

Adrock
05-03-2013, 09:25 PM
Looks like a clear field for a potential liberty Senate candidate. All the bigs have declined now I believe.

Carson
05-03-2013, 09:27 PM
Steve King has been one of my favorites of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_King


http://steveking.house.gov/

lib3rtarian
05-03-2013, 09:30 PM
Kent Sorenson maybe?

TaftFan
05-03-2013, 09:33 PM
Steve King has been one of my favorites of all time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_King


http://steveking.house.gov/Why?

sailingaway
05-03-2013, 09:38 PM
Kent Sorenson maybe?

no. YOu aren't keeping up with Bachmann's woes I take it?

Carson
05-03-2013, 09:39 PM
Why?

He is tough on illegal immigration for one.

Mostly the way he talks. He supports many of the values that made The United States a place to be and come to. He talks of fundamentals like the Constitution.

I don't like seeing these guys like Steve King and Ron Paul stepping down. Then again we seem to be at a threshold where you may be a sucker stepping in right now. It's like the hammer is going to fall and you may find yourself pushed right under it.


P.S. He wields a sharp pen!

supermario21
05-03-2013, 09:41 PM
King's not going anywhere, he'll just run for reelection to his safe house district.

Adrock
05-03-2013, 09:45 PM
Iowa has a pretty factious GOP electorate and it is even more so for the general election.

Carson
05-03-2013, 09:52 PM
Iowa has a pretty factious GOP electorate and it is even more so for the general election.


New word for me. I like it!


factious

fac·tious

adjective

1. given to faction; dissentious: A factious group was trying to undermine the government.

2. pertaining to or proceeding from faction: factious quarrels. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/factious?s=t)

Adrock
05-03-2013, 10:02 PM
It is really the main problem in Iowa.

Either you get a social con warrior, a libertarian leaning candidate, or a establishment business type.
We need to find a liberty candidate that doesn't piss off or scare the shit out of the other two groups.

Carson
05-03-2013, 10:51 PM
King's not going anywhere, he'll just run for reelection to his safe house district.

Oh thanks. I was thinking he was stepping down. I still look forward to hearing from him.

John McNeece
05-03-2013, 11:28 PM
I wonder if that Ron Paul Republican(Spiker, Ivers, or Fischer) that Matt mention a very months back will run now?

Uriah
05-03-2013, 11:50 PM
http://theiowarepublican.com/2013/king-announces-he-will-not-run-for-u-s-senate/

Uriah
05-03-2013, 11:53 PM
Looks like a clear field for a potential liberty Senate candidate. All the bigs have declined now I believe.

Yep, both Republican Congressmen, Governor, Lt. Governor, and Sec of Ag have all declined. This race is wide open.

trey4sports
05-04-2013, 12:13 AM
we should have a whole bushel of liberty oriented statewide politicians who could potentially fill the vacancy.

John McNeece
05-04-2013, 12:26 AM
we should have a whole bushel of liberty oriented statewide politicians who could potentially fill the vacancy.

2014 is seriously looking up to be great year for liberty.I'm so excitied! :D

compromise
05-04-2013, 01:24 AM
If King ran, I'd probably have supported him. Not sure who can run now...Sorenson is unelectable after the Bachmann controversy.

Spoa
05-04-2013, 08:37 AM
I like Rep. Steve King. He's made some bad votes, but he fought hard against Obamacare even when the leadership wouldn't.

I hope we can find a strong liberty candidate to run here now.

Bastiat's The Law
05-04-2013, 09:29 AM
King is pretty neocon'ish

compromise
05-04-2013, 09:35 AM
King is pretty neocon'ish

He's good on ending foreign aid and opposing humanitarian intervention.

I wouldn't say he's an ideologically pure neoconservative like McCain, Graham or Cotton. He's clearly influenced by some neoconservative ideas on national security, but he's also influenced by paleoconservative ideas on other issues like immigration.

FSP-Rebel
05-04-2013, 09:51 AM
Voting Aye on CISPA is hard for me to forgive.

Uriah
05-04-2013, 10:47 AM
Well, he's out. Good.

Liberty type candidates: Drew Ivers, David Fischer, AJ Spiker, or Mark Chelgren.

RockEnds
05-04-2013, 12:06 PM
Well, he's out. Good.

Liberty type candidates: Drew Ivers, David Fischer, AJ Spiker, or Mark Chelgren.

I talked to Chelgren at the fair a year or two ago. It was before he was elected. I really liked his views on everything except the war. As he pointed out to me then, that doesn't matter at the state level. I haven't visited with him much since, well, the caucus probably. I'd be interested in his current views. I do like Chelgren.

Brett85
05-04-2013, 12:14 PM
King is pretty bad on a lot of issues, particularly foreign policy. I think he was the only member of Congress to vote against ruling out sending ground troops into Libya.

Brett85
05-04-2013, 12:16 PM
I talked to Chelgren at the fair a year or two ago. It was before he was elected. I really liked his views on everything except the war. As he pointed out to me then, that doesn't matter at the state level. I haven't visited with him much since, well, the caucus probably. I'd be interested in his current views. I do like Chelgren.

War is a pretty enormous issue given the amount of money it costs to maintain all of these perpetual wars. That's kind of like saying that a certain person is a really nice guy, except that he happens to be a serial killer.

RockEnds
05-04-2013, 12:19 PM
War is a pretty enormous issue given the amount of money it costs to maintain all of these perpetual wars. That's kind of like saying that a certain person is a really nice guy, except that he happens to be a serial killer.

Well, at the time I grilled him over the issues, he had never been a politician. He was still running. Now that he's been in office for a bit, I would be interested in hearing if his views have changed.

Bastiat's The Law
05-04-2013, 12:19 PM
Well, he's out. Good.

Liberty type candidates: Drew Ivers, David Fischer, AJ Spiker, or Mark Chelgren.
We know some of these guys but does the state of Iowa? I don't know if they could win a statewide race.

compromise
05-04-2013, 01:46 PM
King is pretty bad on a lot of issues, particularly foreign policy. I think he was the only member of Congress to vote against ruling out sending ground troops into Libya.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll410.xml
House Republicans voted unanimously against sending troops into Libya.

Brett85
05-04-2013, 02:00 PM
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll410.xml
House Republicans voted unanimously against sending troops into Libya.

Are you sure that wasn't simply a procedural vote? I don't think all of those Democrats actually supported ground troops in Libya.

compromise
05-04-2013, 02:03 PM
Are you sure that wasn't simply a procedural vote? I don't think all of those Democrats actually supported ground troops in Libya.

Kucinich voted with the Republicans, so I don't think so.

Brett85
05-04-2013, 02:03 PM
This is the actual vote. Three Democrats and two Republicans voted "no," including King. Ironically, Rohrabacher voted against it, who's normally pretty good.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll366.xml

Brett85
05-04-2013, 02:05 PM
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/05/26/house-bars-obama-from-sending-ground-troops-to-libya/

"Today’s vote passed in an overwhelming manner, 416-5. The only 5 representatives who opposed the ban were Reps. Shelley Berkley (D – NV), Steve King (R – IA), Gwen Moore (D – WI), Jim Moran (D – VA), and Dana Rohrabacher (R – CA)."

compromise
05-04-2013, 02:09 PM
This is the actual vote. Three Democrats and two Republicans voted "no," including King. Ironically, Rohrabacher voted against it, who's normally pretty good.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll366.xml

Hmm, thanks for the info, didn't know that about King. He still appears to be good on foreign aid, though.

Rohrabacher tweet RE this:
https://twitter.com/DanaRohrabacher/status/206464146034798593

invisible
05-05-2013, 02:00 PM
We know some of these guys but does the state of Iowa? I don't know if they could win a statewide race.

Drew Ivers is the one we need! The reason for this is his strong ties to the religious groups. It is impossible to win an election in IA without being able to get the religious vote. This is why candidates like the huckster, santorum, and bachmann are convinced to run, their purpose is only to split the religious vote off from supporting a good candidiate. The same strategy will be used against Rand in 2016. Drew Ivers in the Senate would be an excellent way to defuse this strategy, since he could not only pull the religious vote for his own election, but his endorsement (as a Senator) of Rand would carry a lot of weight with the religious voters that Rand would need to win. For those of you who do not know who Drew Ivers is, he was one of the higher-ups in Ron's IA campaign organizations, so there is no question that he would be a solid liberty candidate.

Bastiat's The Law
05-05-2013, 02:28 PM
Drew Ivers is the one we need! The reason for this is his strong ties to the religious groups. It is impossible to win an election in IA without being able to get the religious vote. This is why candidates like the huckster, santorum, and bachmann are convinced to run, their purpose is only to split the religious vote off from supporting a good candidiate. The same strategy will be used against Rand in 2016. Drew Ivers in the Senate would be an excellent way to defuse this strategy, since he could not only pull the religious vote for his own election, but his endorsement (as a Senator) of Rand would carry a lot of weight with the religious voters that Rand would need to win. For those of you who do not know who Drew Ivers is, he was one of the higher-ups in Ron's IA campaign organizations, so there is no question that he would be a solid liberty candidate.
It's walking a tightrope though because catering too much to social cons at some point loses you independents in the general election. I'd hate running for office in Iowa.

RockEnds
05-05-2013, 02:43 PM
It's walking a tightrope though because catering too much to social cons at some point loses you independents in the general election. I'd hate running for office in Iowa.

Yes. There is a perception here that Iowa is run by the socons. That is not at all true. The Republican caucus is not at all representative of statewide elections. As far right as the socons take the republicans, the democrats swing just as far left. And Iowa has a very large independent voting block. Iowa is a swing state.

http://theiowarepublican.com/2012/democrats-regain-voter-registration-edge-in-iowa/