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SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 08:21 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/05/02/steven-spielberg-bradley-cooper-american-sniper-movie/2130785/

Now why, of all possible movie plots to choose from, would you pick one so bizarre and shadowy as this one? Spielberg has really gone down hill, especially with his latest propaganda film "Lincoln."

Aratus
05-03-2013, 08:44 AM
'zero dark thirty' did well at the box office and 'lincoln' had to fight for awards with 'django unchained'

kcchiefs6465
05-03-2013, 08:56 AM
Django Unchained wasn't even that good. I definitely wouldn't watch it again.

This movie is going to be ridiculous. Why doesn't Spielberg document Ethan McCord's life? Or even better yet, Smedley Butler. No, we get a mass murderer's memoirs. Hopefully they don't pussy out about what it was. Arms being shot off at 750 yards. Anyone attempting to respond to the body being shot. The mother with the grenade.

The people will probably cheer, though. More war porn.

Cody1
05-03-2013, 09:02 AM
I think it's funny seeing how politically ignorant many of these "prestigious" individuals are as the world becomes more politically charged. It used to be that one could simply watch and enjoy a good movie without being hammered by political agendas, let alone ignorant and factually incorrect ones. I used to have respect for Spielberg, not that it even matters. It's just interesting seeing how the cards fall with these people. Individuals of such fame and success are really this ignorant. We're in for some shit.

angelatc
05-03-2013, 09:05 AM
I think it's funny seeing how politically ignorant many of these "prestigious" individuals are as the world becomes more politically charged. It used to be that one could simply watch and enjoy a good movie without being hammered by political agendas, let alone ignorant and factually incorrect ones. I used to have respect for Spielberg, not that it even matters. It's just interesting seeing how the cards fall with these people. Individuals of such fame and success are really this ignorant. We're in for some shit.


I agree 100%. I can't bear to pay for a movie ticket any more because I don't want those people to earn a dime off of me.

Lucille
05-03-2013, 09:13 AM
He's becoming a modern-day Leni Riefenstahl.

My title suggestion: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.

ninepointfive
05-03-2013, 09:14 AM
http://mpinkeyes.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ministry_of_propaganda.jpg

seraphson
05-03-2013, 09:15 AM
I think it's funny seeing how politically ignorant many of these "prestigious" individuals are as the world becomes more politically charged. It used to be that one could simply watch and enjoy a good movie without being hammered by political agendas, let alone ignorant and factually incorrect ones. I used to have respect for Spielberg, not that it even matters. It's just interesting seeing how the cards fall with these people. Individuals of such fame and success are really this ignorant. We're in for some shit.


I guess it's hard to turn down that nice fat tax payer funded "kudos" bonus (not saying as fact, but wouldn't be surprised) for making a pro-big-bro movie.

SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 09:16 AM
Django Unchained wasn't even that good. I definitely wouldn't watch it again.
Really? I personally enjoyed it - I mean yeah, it certainly isn't accurate regarding the Civil War, but it gets away with that because it's Tarantino. Nobody goes to see a Tarantino film expecting accuracy of any kind, after all, it's just a pulpish celebration of filmmaking. But I agree with the rest of your post. It's too bad, too. Spielberg has done some films in the past that could be described as libertarian (Saving Private Ryan as an anti-war film, or Minority Report, which is even on the Mises.org recommend films list) lately though, he's just turned into a state propagandist.

Also, someone mentioned Zero Dark Thirty. While everyone is yapping about the glories of Kathryn Bigelow being a woman and directing a "man's" film, the whole ordeal becomes more and more identical to Leni Riefenstahl making her glorifications of Hitler's reich and the bombardment of Jews and anything "un-German."

Brian4Liberty
05-03-2013, 10:04 AM
I think it's funny seeing how politically ignorant many of these "prestigious" individuals are as the world becomes more politically charged.

Highly unlikely there is any "ignorance" at all.


http://mpinkeyes.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ministry_of_propaganda.jpg

The Ministry of Truth.

ninepointfive
05-03-2013, 10:10 AM
Highly unlikely there is any "ignorance" at all.



The Ministry of Truth.



I always accept anything as fact, if in the title, there is, "truth".

PaulConventionWV
05-03-2013, 11:15 AM
This reminds me a lot of the plot of Inglorious Basterds, where Hitler went to see a movie about a famous German sniper and war hero. I wonder if Obama will close down a theater just so he and his special buddies can see it?

fr33
05-03-2013, 11:43 AM
This reminds me a lot of the plot of Inglorious Basterds, where Hitler went to see a movie about a famous German sniper and war hero. I wonder if Obama will close down a theater just so he and his special buddies can see it?

According to people on my wife's facebook, Obama didn't praise Kyle enough (or not at all). Yeah that's a thing people are griping about, believe it or not.

HOLLYWOOD
05-03-2013, 11:58 AM
dupe

HOLLYWOOD
05-03-2013, 12:00 PM
Don't forget, Steven Spielberg also directed the Democratic election performances/acting for 2008/2012.

Always keep in mind, both parties are full of entertainment productions and actors, it's just the better performers that the foolish proletariat votes into the behemoth star chambers of Washington and State capitals.

BTW, Speilberg has been deeply involved in Marxist politics for a very long time and don't worry, Stevey will have his crony film critics give him glowing reviews... as usual.

fearthereaperx
05-03-2013, 01:59 PM
Bigelow would direct this story way better than Spielberg.

Anti Federalist
05-03-2013, 02:05 PM
Ugh...

pcosmar
05-03-2013, 02:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkyyuvNB2Pg

Christian Liberty
05-03-2013, 02:13 PM
"Live By the Sword, Die by the Sword."

Ron Paul is the best...

Christian Liberty
05-03-2013, 02:16 PM
According to people on my wife's facebook, Obama didn't praise Kyle enough (or not at all). Yeah that's a thing people are griping about, believe it or not.

All Hail the Fuhrer?

Seriously though, what Ron Paul said was completely reasonable. From what I've read about Kyle, he not only murdered hundreds of people, but he actually FELT GOOD about it. I may be morally bankrupt, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for him at all... beyond where his soul most likely is.

Obama praising Kyle would be truly ironic, kind of like Hitler patting an SS trooper on the back. Actually, I think it would be great. Obama should proclaim Kyle's heroism from the microphone. It would make Kyle look all the more evil.

SeanTX
05-03-2013, 02:31 PM
He's becoming a modern-day Leni Riefenstahl.

My title suggestion: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.

Nooooo ... the Reich wingers are still in full butthurt mode over that "tweet." I've even seen some say (on gun forums like ARFCOM and such) that while they like what Rand Paul says and stands for, they won't support him because of that one Twitter comment from his dad. That's the sort of simpletons we are dealing with on the "right/conservative" side of things. No reason to inflame their jingoistic butthurt any more ...

Speaking of Chris Kyle, the last time I went to my bank last month I saw a little sign begging for people to contribute to the "Chris Kyle Memorial Fund" , to help out HIS family. No mention of the other man murdered alongside of him (Chad Littlefield believe his name was). I guess he doesn't matter much , since he was "just" a Marine, and not some hot shot Navy SEAL rock star -- screw that guy's family, no memorial trust fund for them! I doubt his name will even be mentioned in the movie, if they depict the gun range shooting, he'll just be some nameless guy who died in the background ...

Support the Troops! (yeah, right -- only if they were super duper Navy SEAL Rock Stars !) ....

Wolfgang Bohringer
05-03-2013, 03:59 PM
He's becoming a modern-day Leni Riefenstahl.

My title suggestion: Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.

Yes! And Will Grigg will be writing the screenplay:

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/02/pseudo-courage-of-chris-kyle.html
(http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2012/02/pseudo-courage-of-chris-kyle.html)

Lucille
05-03-2013, 04:13 PM
+rep, Woflgang. Thanks for posting that.

"His enemies are not demons,
but human beings like himself.

He doesn't wish them personal harm.

Nor does he rejoice in victory. 

How could he rejoice in victory

and delight in the slaughter of men?

He enters a battle gravely,

with sorrow and with great compassion,

as if he were attending a funeral."
--Lao Tzu (Tao Te Ching)

RickyJ
05-03-2013, 04:37 PM
I will avoid it like the plague. That movie is just waiting for a sniper to open fire in it.

anaconda
05-03-2013, 04:53 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/05/02/steven-spielberg-bradley-cooper-american-sniper-movie/2130785/

Now why, of all possible movie plots to choose from, would you pick one so bizarre and shadowy as this one? Spielberg has really gone down hill, especially with his latest propaganda film "Lincoln."

Spielberg loves promoting the "just war." Private Ryan, Star Wars, Lincoln, etc.

SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 05:07 PM
Spielberg loves promoting the "just war." Private Ryan, Star Wars, Lincoln, etc.
I really didn't see SPR as promoting war - quite the opposite, as a matter of fact. And he didn't do Star Wars - and also, he produced the brilliant "Letters from Iwo Jima." The guy has made some quality films, but he's really shot downhill with his latest establishment endeavors.

anaconda
05-03-2013, 07:27 PM
I really didn't see SPR as promoting war - quite the opposite, as a matter of fact.

Saving Private Ryan seems to me to honor what Tom Brokaw (CFR) called The Greatest Generation. The movie shows the horror of war but also portrays the "patriotic sacrifice" with almost religious reverence. I have a theory that the boomer generation and later generations have a collective subconscious guilt for not participating in a comparably epic struggle as well as a sense of great nostalgia for the "just war." I think there is a direct connection between the redneck "America! Fuck Yeah!" attitude and the legacy of WW2. Spielberg shows the highest bar imaginable for "confronting evil," after which, we are all cowardly and ungrateful if we object to a relatively small segue into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or Panama.

COpatriot
05-03-2013, 07:39 PM
'MURICA!

jmdrake
05-03-2013, 07:40 PM
Django Unchained wasn't even that good. I definitely wouldn't watch it again.

This movie is going to be ridiculous. Why doesn't Spielberg document Ethan McCord's life? Or even better yet, Smedley Butler. No, we get a mass murderer's memoirs. Hopefully they don't pussy out about what it was. Arms being shot off at 750 yards. Anyone attempting to respond to the body being shot. The mother with the grenade.

The people will probably cheer, though. More war porn.

Wouldn't it be cool if one of the things Ron's new organization did was to fund movies like that? I would certainly donate to a "War is a racket" moneybomb! Oh the irony!

Christian Liberty
05-03-2013, 09:03 PM
What's wrong with Star Wars, BTW? I rather like the OT personally. I've never really thought about it from a political perspective but now that I am, the government were the villains... As for the prequals, the movies weren't as good but there's definitely an interesting parallel between the USA and the Galactic Republic.

SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 09:45 PM
What's wrong with Star Wars, BTW? I rather like the OT personally. I've never really thought about it from a political perspective but now that I am, the government were the villains... As for the prequals, the movies weren't as good but there's definitely an interesting parallel between the USA and the Galactic Republic.
I agree, Star Wars (the classic trilogy, not the CGI-plagued prequels) seems very libertarian in the Ron Paulian sense that it is all about the rebellion against a galactic tyranny that got in by promising the world.

Cutlerzzz
05-03-2013, 09:57 PM
Spielberg loves promoting the "just war." Private Ryan, Star Wars, Lincoln, etc.

Star Wars was a just war. Don't lump it in with WWII and the Civil War.



I agree, Star Wars (the classic trilogy, not the CGI-plagued prequels) seems very libertarian in the Ron Paulian sense that it is all about the rebellion against a galactic tyranny that got in by promising the world.

Even the prequel trilogy was anti-tyranny. It dealt with the death of a Republic and the rise of an authoritarian police state.

Christian Liberty
05-03-2013, 10:04 PM
I don't like the prequals as much as films (Some logical mistakes, Jar Jar, really dumb looking Yoda in Episode I, whiny Anakin, Qui Gon dead too fast, really stupid lightsaber fight where Palpatine kills three elite Jedi in five seconds, Padme "Dying of broken heart" and probably some other stuff I neglected to mention) but the entire story is definitely quite libertarian, as far as I'm concerned, so politically its great.

SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 10:48 PM
Star Wars was a just war. Don't lump it in with WWII and the Civil War.




Even the prequel trilogy was anti-tyranny. It dealt with the death of a Republic and the rise of an authoritarian police state.
I know, but from a filmmaking point-of-view the prequels just trashed the saga.

SkepticalMetal
05-03-2013, 10:51 PM
Saving Private Ryan seems to me to honor what Tom Brokaw (CFR) called The Greatest Generation. The movie shows the horror of war but also portrays the "patriotic sacrifice" with almost religious reverence. I have a theory that the boomer generation and later generations have a collective subconscious guilt for not participating in a comparably epic struggle as well as a sense of great nostalgia for the "just war." I think there is a direct connection between the redneck "America! Fuck Yeah!" attitude and the legacy of WW2. Spielberg shows the highest bar imaginable for "confronting evil," after which, we are all cowardly and ungrateful if we object to a relatively small segue into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, or Panama.
Perhaps. But I'd recommend Letters from Iwo Jima - he didn't direct it (Clint Eastwood did) but he did produce it. One of the most libertarian-appealing anti-war films I've ever seen, a true masterwork.

SpicyTurkey
05-04-2013, 12:04 AM
He's making an 'Obama' movie too. That guy is pure filth.

kcchiefs6465
05-04-2013, 12:12 AM
He's making an 'Obama' movie too. That guy is pure filth.
Really...?

And I suppose it will be called, "Unchanged"?

KingRobbStark
05-04-2013, 09:54 AM
Really...?

And I suppose it will be called, "Unchanged"?

No. It will be called Obama. Which is pretty much the same thing. +rep for your awesome title idea though.

jclay2
05-04-2013, 10:01 AM
I know, but from a filmmaking point-of-view the prequels just trashed the saga.

Not to mention, they totally downplayed the role that obi-wan could have played in the first and second films. It would have been epic if obi-wan and qui-gon would have switched rolls. How awesome would it be to see obi-wan with reckless and daring behavior?

SkepticalMetal
05-04-2013, 10:36 AM
Not to mention, they totally downplayed the role that obi-wan could have played in the first and second films. It would have been epic if obi-wan and qui-gon would have switched rolls. How awesome would it be to see obi-wan with reckless and daring behavior?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

thoughtomator
05-04-2013, 10:44 AM
as a humorous aside you might want to check out #StarInfoWars today on Twitter

kcchiefs6465
05-04-2013, 02:54 PM
as a humorous aside you might want to check out #StarInfoWars today on Twitter
I can't find it, do you have a link?

fr33
05-04-2013, 03:08 PM
I can't find it, do you have a link?

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23StarInfowars&src=hash

Christian Liberty
05-04-2013, 04:11 PM
I did see "Lincoln." While I do think they could have done a better job portraying Lincolnian tyranny, I was pleasantly surprised that it was mentioned at all. I know Dilorenzo says the events actually shown in the movie didn't actually happen though. I don't know enough to know for sure if he's right or not, but I tend to trust Dilorenzo, especially on Lincoln related issues.