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GopBlackList
04-30-2013, 03:25 PM
With the growing minority communities (black and Latinos) in America, who are generally socially conservative, will the Democratic Party become more socially conservative? It is not uncommon in our country's history to see political parties change with shifting demographics, like white southern social conservatives migrating to the Republican party. What do ya'll think?

jkob
04-30-2013, 03:34 PM
Doubtful.

Czolgosz
04-30-2013, 03:35 PM
Since you asked.


Labels aren't important. What IS important, the Human condition will always be one of master/slave. So will the exceptions, nutty freedom lovers, continue their retreat and maintain a battle w/ words or establish freedom and defend it?

KrokHead
04-30-2013, 04:49 PM
No way. People sell out their principals for their desires in one second. Whether it's someone who wants lower taxes, or someone who wants their medicaid. When it comes to the bottom line people don't care how many babies are getting vacuumed up or how many wars there are.

GopBlackList
04-30-2013, 06:00 PM
Keep in mind, I am talking about social issue not economic issue. It may become socially conservative but fiscally liberal to continue the welfare state.

GopBlackList
04-30-2013, 06:01 PM
Doubtful.

Even with the growing number of blacks and Latinos into the political sphere?

AGRP
04-30-2013, 06:01 PM
How many accounts do you have?

jonhowe
04-30-2013, 06:25 PM
If all things remained equal, I think this WOULD eventually happen. It's pure demographics.

I think that it will never get to that. There won't be 'republicans' and 'democrats' by the time that would happen, I feel.

Krzysztof Lesiak
04-30-2013, 06:35 PM
No of course not. 58% of Americans now support gay marriage. If anything, the GOP will move in that direction (though hopefully it will not become a pro-choice party).

The Free Hornet
04-30-2013, 06:48 PM
Keep in mind, I am talking about social issue not economic issue. It may become socially conservative but fiscally liberal to continue the welfare state.

That doesn't clarify anything. The Democratic party *IS* socially conservative. They believe in god in near equal numbers as GOPers. They attack porn (especially of consenting, adult woman). They love the drug war, the foreign wars too. Tipper Gore?

As regards marriage, consider DOMA:


Democratic Senators voted for the bill 32 to 14 (with Pryor of Arkansas absent), and Democratic Representatives voted for it 118 to 65, with 15 not participating.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act)

They also want hoochie-coochie control, they just answer to different masters (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/).

What could anybody expect to change or be different?

parocks
04-30-2013, 07:04 PM
Even with the growing number of blacks and Latinos into the political sphere?

No. Blacks have been with the Ds a long time now. They might be socially conservative, or not. The Democrats have been kicking Pro Life Democrats out for years, see 1992, when Bob Casey, the popular Pro Life Democrat Governor of PA wanted to speak at the D Convention and was not allowed.

RonPaulMall
04-30-2013, 07:25 PM
Over the long term, yes. The Democratic Party is unusual in that it is the party of both the elites and the underclass. The current Democratic Party model of a white elite ruling class and minority underclass base is unsustainable in the long run. Eventually, the minorities are going to want to be allowed in the front of the bus and when they do the white elites, and all their pet issues like gay marriage and the environment, are going to be tossed out the window.

oyarde
04-30-2013, 10:42 PM
No , they will not , in fact they will become bigger killers as the move along with the completion.

heavenlyboy34
04-30-2013, 10:46 PM
The parties will do what the monied interests want them to do.

Smart3
05-01-2013, 04:06 AM
The myth that blacks and latinos are socially conservative has been debunked time and time again.

Almost 70% of Latinos favor abortion rights in the first trimester, an equal number favor sex education, the morning after pill, and a majority also favor marriage equality.

Indeed, we all know that latinos and blacks favor gun control.

We must take into consideration the majority of blacks and latinos outside the South are Catholic or liberal-mainline Protestant, so that skews the numbers towards political liberalism.

Christian Liberty
05-01-2013, 04:58 AM
That doesn't clarify anything. The Democratic party *IS* socially conservative. They believe in god in near equal numbers as GOPers. They attack porn (especially of consenting, adult woman). They love the drug war, the foreign wars too. Tipper Gore?

As regards marriage, consider DOMA:



They also want hoochie-coochie control, they just answer to different masters (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/).

What could anybody expect to change or be different?

That's statist, not social conservative.

The Free Hornet
05-01-2013, 07:50 AM
That's statist, not social conservative.

What's the difference? US social conservatives are a flavor of statism by definition.


Today's mainstream social conservatives, in contrast to "small-government" conservatives and "states-rights" advocates, have increasingly appealed[citation needed] to federal legislators and Presidential candidates with the notion that the federal government should bear the responsibility to overrule the states in order to preserve their stated ideal of traditional values;

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservative#United_States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservative#United_States)