Remember hearing that 90% of Americans want gun control? Those claims were pig excrement.

[sailingaway]

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I have previously noted my skepticism of claims. To me, it wasn't too surprising that the Senate voted down the gun control bill about 10 days ago. My concern is that people were really just being asked about whether they wanted to keep criminals from getting guns, not about the particular legislation being voted on by the Senate. Well, now there is another poll by the PEW Research Center that I think is much more accurate. It asks people whether they are happy that the Senate gun control bill was stopped. Apparently, both Republicans and Independents are generally happy that it was stopped. My guess is that Republicans should pay a lot more attention to what Independents and Republicans wanted than Democrats who wouldn't never have voted for the Republicans anyway. It looks to me that Republicans voted the way that there constituents wanted. So Republicans shouldn't really care that among all voters the poll showed support of 47 to 39 percent. They should look at the results by political affiliation.

more: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/04/remember-those-claims-that-90-of.html?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DougRossJournal+(Doug+Ross+@+Jo urnal)

[liberty2897]

Those results look like what I would have expected based on the people I know. I would even go so far to say that I think more Democrats than what are shown here probably are happy with the results. I just don't know many people (from any party) that are for more gun control

[Christian Liberty]

"Gun control" is broad. It probably is 90% if you use the right definition. Remember that automatic weapons, bazookas, RPGs, stuff like that are still legal. I'm proudly in the 10% that doesn't agree with any of those laws.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

The problem is unless it personally affects a lot of people, they don't give a turd. A lot of people don't want guns so it doesn't affect them directly if other people lose that right. We call that being selfish.

[James Madison]

"Gun control" is broad. It probably is 90% if you use the right definition. Remember that automatic weapons, bazookas, RPGs, stuff like that are still legal. I'm proudly in the 10% that doesn't agree with any of those laws.

I want one of these in my driveway...

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/7-m1-abrams-tank-at-camp-warhorse-terry-moore.jpg

[Christian Liberty]

If that gun could be pinpointed at a particular target, I'd be fine with that. I draw the line at weapons that CANNOT be used without violation of the NAP, but private ICBM ownership should indeed be illegal.

[Zippyjuan]

"Gun control" is broad. It probably is 90% if you use the right definition. Remember that automatic weapons, bazookas, RPGs, stuff like that are still legal. I'm proudly in the 10% that doesn't agree with any of those laws.

I believe that the 90% is a total who would favor SOME sort of restictions on the sale of guns. When you get to specifics, the percentage goes down on the particular proposal. "Some" could include anything from not allowing cons to have them or mentally insane people to background checks all the way to not wanting anybody but police and military to have them.

[Christian Liberty]

I believe that the 90% is a total who would favor SOME sort of restictions on the sale of guns. When you get to specifics, the percentage goes down on the particular proposal. "Some" could include anything from not allowing cons to have them or mentally insane people to background checks all the way to not wanting anybody but police and military to have them.

Exactly.

Technically I want gun control too, I don't want the police to have any guns we can't. If there were a bill in NYS to prevent cops from having assault weapons I'd support it.

[Seraphim]

I watched Obama LIVE when he said 90% of Americans supported Gun Control.

I almost punched my computer. Fucking liar.

[torchbearer]

I believe that the 90% is a total who would favor SOME sort of restictions on the sale of guns. When you get to specifics, the percentage goes down on the particular proposal. "Some" could include anything from not allowing cons to have them or mentally insane people to background checks all the way to not wanting anybody but police and military to have them.

90% of american's favor blowing coke up their nose until they die. well, they don't actually support that.. just some form of reducing the pains of life using SOME sort of relief. but its all the same. right?

[supermario21]

I wish Rand had the guts to introduce a bill repealing the ban on automatic weapons as well as the NFA act of 1968.

[sailingaway]

I want one of these in my driveway...

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/7-m1-abrams-tank-at-camp-warhorse-terry-moore.jpg

Be careful what you wish for. Boston HAD them. Mind you, they didn't belong to the people....

[Christian Liberty]

I wish Rand had the guts to introduce a bill repealing the ban on automatic weapons as well as the NFA act of 1968.

I think its almost comical how some conservatives worship Reagan even though Reagan banned automatics. And yeah, I wish Rand had the guts. It would definitely wake people up one way or another. And I'd love to see an actual REPEAL of gun control being discussed for once.

[CaptUSA]

Sticking with the "pig" theme...

I was reading Charlotte's Web to my son the other day and in the first chapter, there is a description of how the older brother grabs his rifle and buck knife and hurries out to the school bus. No panic. No cause for concern, at all. If this had been written today, the book would be banned from schools. I wonder if the editions at schools now still have that reference or if its been edited out?

[torchbearer]

Sticking with the "pig" theme...

I was reading Charlotte's Web to my son the other day and in the first chapter, there is a description of how the older brother grabs his rifle and buck knife and hurries out to the school bus. No panic. No cause for concern, at all. If this had been written today, the book would be banned from schools. I wonder if the editions at schools now still have that reference or if its been edited out?

thanks be to the enlightenment of the progressive socialist that have ran our federal government.

[georgiaboy]

Sticking with the "pig" theme...

I was reading Charlotte's Web to my son the other day and in the first chapter, there is a description of how the older brother grabs his rifle and buck knife and hurries out to the school bus. No panic. No cause for concern, at all. If this had been written today, the book would be banned from schools. I wonder if the editions at schools now still have that reference or if its been edited out?

Dangerous times, those. Shootings were so much more widespread back then. So glad we cleaned all that mess up with our tidy lawbooks.

:P

[PaulConventionWV]

I want one of these in my driveway...

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/7-m1-abrams-tank-at-camp-warhorse-terry-moore.jpg

But only for the right reasons.

"Honey, did you order a tank?"

[WhistlinDave]

"Gun control" is broad. It probably is 90% if you use the right definition. Remember that automatic weapons, bazookas, RPGs, stuff like that are still legal. I'm proudly in the 10% that doesn't agree with any of those laws.


I believe that the 90% is a total who would favor SOME sort of restictions on the sale of guns. When you get to specifics, the percentage goes down on the particular proposal. "Some" could include anything from not allowing cons to have them or mentally insane people to background checks all the way to not wanting anybody but police and military to have them.

Here's the poll where the 90% statistic actually came from.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes--centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1847


In this poll, the question is worded:

38. Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?

But notice questions 35, 36, 37, and 39; most of these are pretty close to 50/50 in the results. These questions deal with stricter gun controls, assault weapons bans, and things like that.

The 90% number was thrown around by the White House and the media in order to manipulate public opinion on this legislation. The bill would've done some really stupid, unconstitutional things in addition to expanding background checks. (Like completely destroying doctor-patient confidentiality.)

[Zippyjuan]

Thanks for the info and link!

[chudrockz]

Of course those stats were pig excrement. But more importantly, it shouldn't even matter whether they are, or are not. I care not if every man, woman, and child in the country except me "wants gun control." They'll have to use deadly force to get mine.

[BlackTerrel]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

[supermario21]

http://wkbn.com/2013/04/29/gun-reform-group-protests-portman-visit/

Rob Portman was in my hometown today and attracted a 90% protest.

[qh4dotcom]

"Remember hearing that 90% of Americans want gun control?"


It's actually higher than that in the electorate...Over 98% of the electorate voted for the certified gun control candidates Obama and Romney last November.

[LibertyEagle]

It's still disappointing that 47% were unhappy.

[TruckinMike]

I think its almost comical how some conservatives worship Reagan even though Reagan banned automatics. And yeah, I wish Rand had the guts. It would definitely wake people up one way or another. And I'd love to see an actual REPEAL of gun control being discussed for once.
FYI -->See how the hughes amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ&list=FLomSJCfFk2ZXRVfGpqFoTMg&index=29) never passed...but was included in the "Voelker substitute" as a part of bill that Reagan signed.