"Liberty Was Also Attacked in Boston" Ron Paul Texas Straight Talk 4/29/2013

[sailingaway]

what's the best 'martial law in Boston' picture we have? I want to put it on the front page....


Forced lockdown of a city. Militarized police riding tanks in the streets. Door-to-door armed searches without warrant. Families thrown out of their homes at gunpoint to be searched without probable cause. Businesses forced to close. Transport shut down.

These were not the scenes from a military coup in a far off banana republic, but rather the scenes just over a week ago in Boston as the United States got a taste of martial law. The ostensible reason for the military-style takeover of parts of Boston was that the accused perpetrator of a horrific crime was on the loose. The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city. This unprecedented move should frighten us as much or more than the attack itself.

What has been sadly forgotten in all the celebration of the capture of one suspect and the killing of his older brother is that the police state tactics in Boston did absolutely nothing to catch them. While the media crowed that the apprehension of the suspects was a triumph of the new surveillance state – and, predictably, many talking heads and Members of Congress called for even more government cameras pointed at the rest of us – the fact is none of this caught the suspect. Actually, it very nearly gave the suspect a chance to make a getaway.

The “shelter in place” command imposed by the governor of Massachusetts was lifted before the suspect was caught. Only after this police state move was ended did the owner of the boat go outside to check on his property, and in so doing discover the suspect.

No, the suspect was not discovered by the paramilitary troops terrorizing the public. He was discovered by a private citizen, who then placed a call to the police. And he was identified not by government surveillance cameras, but by private citizens who willingly shared their photographs with the police.

As journalist Tim Carney wrote last week:

“Law enforcement in Boston used cameras to ID the bombing suspects, but not police cameras. Instead, authorities asked the public to submit all photos and videos of the finish-line area to the FBI, just in case any of them had relevant images. The surveillance videos the FBI posted online of the suspects came from private businesses that use surveillance to punish and deter crime on their property.”
Sadly, we have been conditioned to believe that the job of the government is to keep us safe, but in reality the job of the government is to protect our liberties. Once the government decides that its role is to keep us safe, whether economically or physically, they can only do so by taking away our liberties. That is what happened in Boston.

Three people were killed in Boston and that is tragic. But what of the fact that over 40 persons are killed in the United States each day, and sometimes ten persons can be killed in one city on any given weekend? These cities are not locked-down by paramilitary police riding in tanks and pointing automatic weapons at innocent citizens.

This is unprecedented and is very dangerous. We must educate ourselves and others about our precious civil to ensure that we never accept demands that we give up our Constitution so that the government can pretend to protect us.

Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.

http://the-free-foundation.org/tst4-29-2013.html

[sailingaway]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ShelterinPlacesigninBostoncourtesyjconline.com_.jp eg
http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-martial-law2b.jpg
http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-martial-law-deserted4.jpg
http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-martial-law8.jpg
http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-martial-law6.jpg

I'm trying to find one picture that sums it up more.....

http://www.infowars.com/battlefield-usa-de-facto-state-of-martial-law-declared-in-boston-pics-from-the-war-zone/

[sailingaway]

well, I'll put this up as a placeholder, if someone has a 'medley' picture showing a bunch of the scenes that would be great.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/295771_526411280760184_1372638736_n.jpg

[FrankRep]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/adf91adc78adc26b33d87fb6b1bec1c8_M.jpg (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15163-boston-bombing-lessons-martial-law-doesn-t-work)



Only after the curfew in Watertown, Massachusetts, was lifted and alert resident David Hanberry went outside to get a smoke, according to news reports, did the case of the Boston Marathon bombing manhunt for suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev crack open.


Boston Bombing Lessons: Martial Law Doesn't Work (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15163-boston-bombing-lessons-martial-law-doesn-t-work)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
20 April 2013

[tangent4ronpaul]

Forced lockdown of a city. Militarized police riding tanks in the streets. Door-to-door armed searches without warrant. Families thrown out of their homes at gunpoint to be searched without probable cause. Businesses forced to close. Transport shut down.

These were not the scenes from a military coup in a far off banana republic, but rather the scenes just over a week ago in Boston as the United States got a taste of martial law. The ostensible reason for the military-style takeover of parts of Boston was that the accused perpetrator of a horrific crime was on the loose. The Boston bombing provided the opportunity for the government to turn what should have been a police investigation into a military-style occupation of an American city. This unprecedented move should frighten us as much or more than the attack itself.

What has been sadly forgotten in all the celebration of the capture of one suspect and the killing of his older brother is that the police state tactics in Boston did absolutely nothing to catch them. While the media crowed that the apprehension of the suspects was a triumph of the new surveillance state – and, predictably, many talking heads and Members of Congress called for even more government cameras pointed at the rest of us – the fact is none of this caught the suspect. Actually, it very nearly gave the suspect a chance to make a getaway.

The “shelter in place” command imposed by the governor of Massachusetts was lifted before the suspect was caught. Only after this police state move was ended did the owner of the boat go outside to check on his property, and in so doing discover the suspect.

No, the suspect was not discovered by the paramilitary troops terrorizing the public. He was discovered by a private citizen, who then placed a call to the police. And he was identified not by government surveillance cameras, but by private citizens who willingly shared their photographs with the police.

As journalist Tim Carney wrote last week:

“Law enforcement in Boston used cameras to ID the bombing suspects, but not police cameras. Instead, authorities asked the public to submit all photos and videos of the finish-line area to the FBI, just in case any of them had relevant images. The surveillance videos the FBI posted online of the suspects came from private businesses that use surveillance to punish and deter crime on their property.”

Sadly, we have been conditioned to believe that the job of the government is to keep us safe, but in reality the job of the government is to protect our liberties. Once the government decides that its role is to keep us safe, whether economically or physically, they can only do so by taking away our liberties. That is what happened in Boston.

Three people were killed in Boston and that is tragic. But what of the fact that over 40 persons are killed in the United States each day, and sometimes ten persons can be killed in one city on any given weekend? These cities are not locked-down by paramilitary police riding in tanks and pointing automatic weapons at innocent citizens.

This is unprecedented and is very dangerous. We must educate ourselves and others about our precious civil liberties to ensure that we never accept demands that we give up our Constitution so that the government can pretend to protect us.

Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given.

Ron Paul
http://the-free-foundation.org/tst4-29-2013.html

[extrmmxer]

Point of view from a martial law victim.

http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/watertown-gun-aimed-at-photogrphaer-923495_10200611106256641_1972215990_n-800x706.jpg

[sailingaway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW4zsQNM308

I like this Ron Paul song, from 2008 "Don't spread freedom with the barrel of a gun", it is apt here, particularly the 'you can keep your freedom, give me back my liberties' part....

[Brian4Liberty]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ShelterinPlacesigninBostoncourtesyjconline.com_.jp eg


"Shelter in place" becomes martial law. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412086-quot-Shelter-in-place-quot-becomes-martial-law)

[sailingaway]

"Shelter in place" becomes martial law. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412086-quot-Shelter-in-place-quot-becomes-martial-law)

What's the difference? In this case, I mean? This wasn't a hurricane they risked if they went outside, it was troops.

[ClydeCoulter]

well, I'll put this up as a placeholder, if someone has a 'medley' picture showing a bunch of the scenes that would be great.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/295771_526411280760184_1372638736_n.jpg

I had to share that. Thanks.

[supermario21]

The only part I MIGHT disagree with is the emphasis placed on forced searches, etc. Julie Borowski and Amash were both tweeting asking for residents' experiences and it was not really as bad as Ron described. All house searches were optional, etc.

[Sola_Fide]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ShelterinPlacesigninBostoncourtesyjconline.com_.jp eg



It is very soon that those signs will say something much more sinister. And because of our complacency, we will accept it as we did this one.

[sailingaway]

The only part I MIGHT disagree with is the emphasis placed on forced searches, etc. Julie Borowski and Amash were both tweeting asking for residents' experiences and it was not really as bad as Ron described. All house searches were optional, etc.

But some were not, so the 'ALL' in your statement is incorrect, as I understand it. There were pictures on twitter of some who DIDN'T 'opt' to let them search 'voluntarily' being pulled out of their houses at gun point.

[Yieu]

Point of view from a martial law victim.

http://jimbovard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/watertown-gun-aimed-at-photogrphaer-923495_10200611106256641_1972215990_n-800x706.jpg

He is pointing a gun at that man for taking a picture. That is punishable by law.

[cajuncocoa]

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/138122/full/ss_130419_boston_manhunt_24_ss.jpg

[cajuncocoa]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/19/article-2311634-1962F05C000005DC-218_634x470.jpg

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Fucking redcoats....

[Brian4Liberty]

What's the difference? In this case, I mean? This wasn't a hurricane they risked if they went outside, it was troops.

Apparently they did become the same thing. They could have announced that they were holding a "fire drill" or "hurricane alert". Those would have been just as (in)appropriate as "shelter in place".


One of the instructions you may be given in an emergency where hazardous materials may have been released into the atmosphere is to shelter-in-place. This is a precaution aimed to keep you safe while remaining indoors. (This is not the same thing as going to a shelter in case of a storm.) Shelter-in-place means selecting a small, interior room, with no or few windows, and taking refuge there.

http://www.redcross.org/images/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m4340182_shelterinplace.pdf


Clearly, “shelter in place” is not appropriate for the situation of a manhunt. It is specifically intended for hazardous air-born dangers. Has the definition of “shelter in place” changed? As used during the Boston manhunt, “shelter in place” morphed into something more akin to martial law. Is this an example of a slippery slope? A misuse or expansion of power?

[Anti Federalist]

Fucking redcoats....

God damn right...

And where it all started 238 years ago...is where it all ends.

Been a hell of a ride.

[Anti Federalist]

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Boston-martial-law8.jpg

I'm trying to find one picture that sums it up more.....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9hjqeokWs1qm36c1o1_500.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n289/thr3eofthewind/400_OneNationUnderSurveillanceFlag.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

http://i.imgur.com/uBeJVVZ.jpg

[donnay]

Disgusting. The whole thing makes my blood boil.

[Anti Federalist]

///wrong thread

[Anti Federalist]

http://newsjunkiepost.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1NationUnderSurveillanceFlag.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/5328104477_fac3db67e2_oa.jpg?w=950&h=600

[sailingaway]

http://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/5328104477_fac3db67e2_oa.jpg?w=950&h=600

Yep. Just the drones are smaller and less conspicuous.

[pcosmar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

http://www.graystatemovie.com/
https://www.facebook.com/graystatemovie

[pcosmar]

"Liberty Was Also Attacked"

Some of us have been saying that for some time.

[sailingaway]

I love that two new polls just came out showing Americans fear government encroachments on the Constitution more than they do terrorists. This is new since 2010, and one was taken the day after the Waterford events, and unlike 9/11, Americans did NOT snap back.

I think Ron has helped change the direction of the wind.

[cindy25]

so far only Ron, and Bill Maher have commented on this

Rand needs to take a stand on this

[tommy949]

al gore was right, the government is being taken over by corporate fascists

[cindy25]

al gore was right, the government is being taken over by corporate fascists

just wondering how different things would be if Gore had won , or I should say if Gore had been ignaurated as everyone knows Gore won

[tod evans]

Yep. Just the drones are smaller and less conspicuous.

Todays "drones"..

http://cms3.tucsonaz.gov/files/police/swat1.png

[Danan]

al gore was right, the government is being taken over by corporate fascists

No, that's just government being government.

[cajuncocoa]

I was looking for the pic of the young lady coming out of her own home barefooted with hands up, as the police/military types looked on. IMO, that is the one most chilling pic from last week.

[Anti Federalist]

I love that two new polls just came out showing Americans fear government encroachments on the Constitution more than they do terrorists. This is new since 2010, and one was taken the day after the Waterford events, and unlike 9/11, Americans did NOT snap back.

I think Ron has helped change the direction of the wind.

Thank God

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sailingaway again.

[sailingaway]

bump for the pictures

[sailingaway]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/269601_457514327664088_1651721219_n.jpg

[extrmmxer]

I put the write up and all the photos on a pdf. Download it here and share it. The download will last 15 days then it will expire.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/6237506/liberty-was-also-attacked-in-boston-pdf-639k?da=y

[sailingaway]

I put the write up and all the photos on a pdf. Download it here and share it. The download will last 15 days then it will expire.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/6237506/liberty-was-also-attacked-in-boston-pdf-639k?da=y

Thank you!

[Carson]

The Call - The Walls Came Down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_kX8lqXAONg#!

Well they blew the horns,
And the walls came down.

They'd all been warned,
And the walls came down.

They just stood there laughing,
They're not laughing anymore.

The walls came down...

Sanctuary fades...

Congregation splits...

Nightly military raids,
The congregation splits.

It's a song of assassins,
Ringin' in your ears.

We got terrorist thinking,
Playing on fears.

Well they blew the horns,
And the walls came down.

They'd all been warned,
But the walls came down.

I don't think there are any Russians,
And there ain't no Yanks.

Just corporate criminals,
Playin' with tanks!

[sailingaway]

it really is a mess, isn't it? And it all seems to be coming at once.

[Carson]

it really is a mess, isn't it? And it all seems to be coming at once.

I think a lot of what we see is because of a certain central banks birthday. I think they are celebrating in our faces.

[enhanced_deficit]

Freedom is on the march.