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FrankRep
04-28-2013, 12:41 PM
Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425)
The Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There's no price the big banks can't fix


Rolling Stone
April 25, 2013



Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything.
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Full Story:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425


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Carroll Quigley exposed this in 1966!


http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/1625cfrquigley.jpg


Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/094500110X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=094500110X)
- Carroll Quigley, 1966



Powerful Statements from Carroll Quigley:


The powers of financial capitalism have another far reaching aim nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.

(Tragedy and Hope, p. 324)

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There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international anglophile network (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0945001010/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0945001010) which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies....but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."

(Tragedy and Hope, p. 950)

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The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.

(Tragedy and Hope, p. 1247-1248)


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Three Must Read Books:


Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in our Time (1966) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/094500110X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=094500110X)

The Anglo-American Establishment (1981) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0945001010/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0945001010)

The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0882791346/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0882791346)

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If you want to understand Prof. Carroll Quigley/Tragedy and Hope is trying to say, you can read this book called "The Naked Capitalist (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568493673/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1568493673)" by Cleon Skousen. It breaks down Prof. Carroll Quigley's viewpoint into a smaller and more readable format.


http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/6542878-M.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568493673/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1568493673)

The Naked Capitalist (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1568493673/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1568493673)
- Cleon Skousen


A Review and Commentary on Dr. Carroll Quigley's book: A Tragedy and Hope - the History of the World in Our Time.

jmdrake
04-28-2013, 12:45 PM
Already posted, but worth posting again. It's funny, I have some friends who think they are "sophisticated" who say "Oh sure, there's a world wide conspiracy. But it doesn't trace to the Illuminati". Ummmmmm....so freaking what? Isn't the fact that there is a worldwide conspiracy manipulating everything enough? Oh yeah, and doesn't Rachel Madcow read Rolling Stone?

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
04-28-2013, 12:56 PM
Already posted, but worth posting again. It's funny, I have some friends who think they are "sophisticated" who say "Oh sure, there's a world wide conspiracy. But it doesn't trace to the Illuminati". Ummmmmm....so freaking what? Isn't the fact that there is a worldwide conspiracy manipulating everything enough? Oh yeah, and doesn't Rachel Madcow read Rolling Stone?


She reads Rolling Bone. (of the dog variety, obviously.)

Anti Federalist
04-28-2013, 01:06 PM
Well, I'll be damned...good for them.

FrankRep
04-28-2013, 01:21 PM
Bill Clinton speaks of Carroll Quigley at the 1992 Democratic National Convention


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMVVQLA_dGg


Bill Clinton: As a teenager, I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest Nation in history because our people had always believed in two things–that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so.

The Northbreather
04-28-2013, 01:22 PM
The Quigley clif notes

http://f2.org/image/horror/ndcic.jpg

KingNothing
04-28-2013, 01:23 PM
Well, I'll be damned...good for them.

Taibbi is certainly not a friend of our movement, in general, but he's been shining a very bright light on the absurdity of our criminal financial system.

BenIsForRon
04-28-2013, 03:53 PM
Taibbi is certainly not a friend of our movement, in general, but he's been shining a very bright light on the absurdity of our criminal financial system.

I would say he's one of our best friends. All of his research and reporting on the global financial system has helped me and many other Americans understand just how corrosive our financial system is. So even though he talks shit about Ron and Rand, the other work he's done has helped our cause.

HOLLYWOOD
04-28-2013, 06:20 PM
Matt Taibbi (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog) needs to stop sucking Marxist-meat and realize there's much more to evil .Gov rigging this planet with their partners in crime... he doesn't realize how deep this rabbit hole goes...

Corporatism
Fascism
Repressivism-Revisionism


Full Story:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...l-yet-20130425 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425)

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Carroll Quigley exposed this in 1966!
http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/1625cfrquigley.jpg

NewRightLibertarian
04-28-2013, 07:04 PM
I would say he's one of our best friends. All of his research and reporting on the global financial system has helped me and many other Americans understand just how corrosive our financial system is. So even though he talks shit about Ron and Rand, the other work he's done has helped our cause.

He hasn't done shit to help our cause. Like it took a genius to realize that the banking system was a scam. If anything, he's re-directed anti-banker sentiment back to the state and done a great disservice to our movement.

FrankRep
04-28-2013, 07:16 PM
He hasn't done shit to help our cause. Like it took a genius to realize that the banking system was a scam. If anything, he's re-directed anti-banker sentiment back to the state and done a great disservice to our movement.
Can you explain what you mean?

NewRightLibertarian
04-28-2013, 07:24 PM
Can you explain what you mean?

I am saying that Taibbi's reporting on the banking system being a fraud hasn't done shit to help our cause. All it has done is re-directed any type of anti-banker sentiment back toward statist philosophies. Many people around here love to praise and support our enemies while doing everything they can to ruin proven allies though, for some reason.

paulbot24
04-28-2013, 08:17 PM
I am saying that Taibbi's reporting on the banking system being a fraud hasn't done shit to help our cause. All it has done is re-directed any type of anti-banker sentiment back toward statist philosophies. Many people around here love to praise and support our enemies while doing everything they can to ruin proven allies though, for some reason.

Considering everything else I read in mainstream periodicals is shtick right out of The Economist, I'll take an article like this one anyday. Not to mention the fact that it might actually encourage people to *gasp* read a book or two about what is really going on and get in the game.