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sailingaway
04-25-2013, 04:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieCCQNoiOaE

from eduardo

It is great how ridiculous this other guy sounds now saying 'they hate us for our movies and freedom'. Even the Fox person sounds a bit incredulous.

EBounding
04-25-2013, 05:11 PM
What I don't get is, even if they are purely motivated by our American lifestyle and they truly don't mind being bombed, what difference does it make? Why does that justify the country spending billions of dollars and thousands of lives in a third-world dustbowl?

ClydeCoulter
04-25-2013, 05:17 PM
2 + 2 really, really does = 4, it really, really does, no kidding, for real. The guy on the right just needs to try it, put 2 fingers on one hand up, then put 2 fingers on his other hand up, then have someone else count it out for him, without skipping or double counting. Then we can have a debate about it.

Anti Federalist
04-25-2013, 05:53 PM
It is great how ridiculous this other guy sounds now saying 'they hate us for our movies and freedom'. Even the Fox person sounds a bit incredulous.

Pfffft...I hate us for our movies.

http://creators.com/editorial_cartoons/4/26014_image.gif

bunklocoempire
04-25-2013, 06:26 PM
Yeah, you know, movies like this that praise the degeneracy of the West:

http://s6.postimg.org/hajcfm2gh/lawrence.jpg

No? Not this movie?

:rolleyes: :mad: GGGRRRRRRR

Brett85
04-25-2013, 06:37 PM
He would probably get more Republicans and conservatives to agree with his position if he didn't mention Israel so much.

kcchiefs6465
04-25-2013, 06:45 PM
He would probably get more Republicans and conservatives to agree with his position if he didn't mention Israel so much.
He'd have a whole lot of support if he didn't mention blowback either. He should stick to the script and say Miley Cyrus is to blame.

Anti Federalist
04-25-2013, 07:37 PM
He'd have a whole lot of support if he didn't mention blowback either. He should stick to the script and say Miley Cyrus is to blame.

I thought Snookie was to blame?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lab3pbFANN1qe2i72o1_500.jpg

kcchiefs6465
04-25-2013, 07:45 PM
I thought Snookie was to blame?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lab3pbFANN1qe2i72o1_500.jpg
You know, I don't buy the whole they hate us for our freedoms line, but Snooki might be the exception. Either that or Honey Boo Boo.

You know what was headline news yesterday? Vanilla Ice is going to be amish on TLC. (they really have the nerve to be named The Learning Channel) It was about the first thing I read on one of these news sites. SMH. I can't even begin to understand, why? Baby mama shows and Honey Boo Boo... I know we are getting laughed at somewhere.

BlackTerrel
04-25-2013, 08:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieCCQNoiOaE

from eduardo

It is great how ridiculous this other guy sounds now saying 'they hate us for our movies and freedom'. Even the Fox person sounds a bit incredulous.

The older brother lived here his entire life basically and said in an interview a few years ago "I don't understand Americans. I have no American friends." A 26 year old with no friends who embraces radical Islam.

So if our foreign policy was different this would just be a normal guy? I doubt it.

He lived here and was taken in by this country.

kcchiefs6465
04-25-2013, 09:01 PM
The older brother lived here his entire life basically and said in an interview a few years ago "I don't understand Americans. I have no American friends." A 26 year old with no friends who embraces radical Islam.

So if our foreign policy was different this would just be a normal guy? I doubt it.

He lived here and was taken in by this country.
That is not to say that he was ignorant of what is going on in the Middle East.

HOLLYWOOD
04-25-2013, 09:25 PM
lol at that NEOCON douchebag: Frederick Fleitz

Here's all you need to know about Fleitz, "chief of staff to Undersecretaries of State for Arms Control (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Secretary_for_Arms_Control_and_International _Security) John Bolton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton) (2001–2005) and Robert Joseph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Joseph) (2005–2006). Fleitz specialized in WMD proliferation for the House Intelligence Committee..."

We all know how that turned out in Iraq, the guy is another False Flag Waring Profiteer mouthpiecehttp://i4.ytimg.com/vi/cNIbzg5wbPE/hqdefault.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=VYNbks9Tj-pPqM&tbnid=jfKITXycRfU91M:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcNI bzg5wbPE&ei=euB5UejtD-WdiAKOhICoCA&bvm=bv.45645796,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNE2c6HehCgBlnVhofQ-8QO8UtbNTA&ust=1367028218689541)http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H2ILr3mqzW8/ULwDoqFDVPI/AAAAAAAAATg/1dkqxOYOnmc/s1600/fail+stamp.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=sMsZCdpKq8bZTM&tbnid=H8ABZdiTB0jAfM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ign.com%2Fboards%2Fthreads%2F oventasticm.452928378%2F&ei=f_N5UZD4JOmSiAL_koCoAg&bvm=bv.45645796,d.cGE&psig=AFQjCNH8FBeOZfn89tiD5MVBq0GKTKdBvw&ust=1367033088057411)

ClydeCoulter
04-25-2013, 10:13 PM
The older brother lived here his entire life basically and said in an interview a few years ago "I don't understand Americans. I have no American friends." A 26 year old with no friends who embraces radical Islam.

So if our foreign policy was different this would just be a normal guy? I doubt it.

He lived here and was taken in by this country.

In 2011 he had some Jewish friends, they got killed. He may have not had any "American" friends at the time, I don't know.

BlackTerrel
04-25-2013, 10:15 PM
That is not to say that he was ignorant of what is going on in the Middle East.

What connection does he have to them? Same religion as them? This would be like if I attacked Muslims in the US because of persecution of Christians in Egypt.

At a certain point the guy is just a radical mad man.

ClydeCoulter
04-25-2013, 10:17 PM
What connection does he have to them? Same religion as them? This would be like if I attacked Muslims in the US because of persecution of Christians in Egypt.

At a certain point the guy is just a radical mad man.

So, he's guilty, then.

BlackTerrel
04-25-2013, 10:22 PM
So, he's guilty, then.

Michael Scheuer thinks he's guilty right? My comment was a response to his comments.

sailingaway
04-25-2013, 11:02 PM
I think people who bomb innocent people have screws loose beyond whatever sets them off, but that doesn't mean they aren't motivated by whatever they are motivated by.

mczerone
04-25-2013, 11:22 PM
The real psychopathy of blowback is not that it radicalizes people and turns them against the US govt.

It is that they are being shown, by example, that violence is how you solve problems. You want something done in a country? Arm the rebels, assassinate the leader, and bomb the infrastructure.

The survivors then see that they've been irreparably hurt by the violence of the govt, and want to turn the tables by being violent against them.

Even if we assume that the Boston bombers were "off" and wouldn't have fit in their social sphere, they would have been less likely to turn violent had they not been triggered to act by violence.

bolil
04-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to bomb

Champ
04-25-2013, 11:34 PM
This is the most animated I have seen Michael in quite some time. Gotta love him.

messana
04-25-2013, 11:40 PM
I always assumed that the "they hate us for our freedoms" was just some stupid one liner that even the Neocons didn't really believe in. Scary.

sailingaway
04-27-2013, 01:26 AM
apparently Limbaugh and Levin had fits over this interview, Here is Tom DiLorenzo's response (no need to hear Limbaugh and Levin, so far as I'm concerned)

http://lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo253.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

COpatriot
04-27-2013, 02:06 AM
"They hate us for our freedoms and movies" is an extremely stupid notion.

*KA-BOOM* "Ha! Take that you American dogs! That'll teach you to make another Star Wars trilogy!"

*BOOM* "And that was for Caddyshack!"

*BOOM* "Superbad? How about super bombs! Fuck you America! Allahu akbar!"

COpatriot
04-27-2013, 02:23 AM
And the grate one chimes in with his usual name-calling, misleading, and adding no substance at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bai6lEkCCPo

tod evans
04-27-2013, 03:50 AM
I just wasted 6 min. of my life...:o

Suppose I needed a reminder of why I don't watch television...