NYC is going to release toxic gas into the subways?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I'm not sure if I misheard this, but I was listening to the radio while driving this morning and I heard something along the lines of this. The guy on the radio said they want to test to see how poisonous gases cling to the subway walls or some bullshit. What the fuck kind of shit is this?

edit: Alright, found it.
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130424/new-york-city/nypd-will-release-non-toxic-gas-subways-for-airborne-weapons-test

They say it's non-toxic gas. That still doesn't make me feel safe traveling in NYC.


EW YORK CITY — Police will release "harmless tracer gases" into subway stations throughout the city this summer to test the flow of noxious chemicals that could be used as airborne weapons.

The study is scheduled for July in underground and street-level locations along 21 subway lines and several dozen stations through all five boroughs to test the effects of airborne contaminants including chemical, biological and radiological weapons that could be released into the subway system, police said.

The exact subway lines remain secret for security purposes, police said.

"It is an effort funded through a grant from Homeland Security to determine the flow of toxic material through the subway system and also in the streets as well," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said during an unrelated press conference Wednesday. "What the public will see is perhaps as many as 200 detection devices. It will be done on three non-consecutive days in July.''

Researchers will release low concentrations of non-toxic gases known as perfluorocarbons, which are odorless and invisible.

During the study, commuters may notice boxes holding air-sampling equipment in subway stations, on street light poles and being carried by researchers.

A previous airflow study was conducted in Manhattan in 2005, but this is the first test to take place in all five boroughs, police said.

''If we get that type of material dispersed in the city, where does it go, how do you track it, is it transported more rapidly if something is done in the subway system?" Kelly added. "These are questions we've had out there for a while, and this will give us some answers.''

With reporting by Trevor Kapp

[pcosmar]

Practice,, for the next FBI terror attack.

Get the hell out of the cities.

[Anti Federalist]

Done it before...got killed people too.

But I'm a conspiracy nut...

And this is from 25 years ago.



The Army's Germ Warfare Against Civilians

By Leonard A. Cole; Leonard A. Cole, faculty associate in the Science, Technology and Society Program at Rutgers University in Newark, N.J., is author of a book on the Army's germ warfare tests in United States cities

Published: November 29, 1988

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/29/opinion/the-army-s-germ-warfare-against-civilians.html

The Army's biological warfare program has drawn heavy criticism in recent months.

Habitually unsafe laboratory practices, as well as plans to ship dangerous biological materials by mail, have both come under fire. Yet, not enough has been said about an activity that is just as alarming - germ warfare experimentation in which bacterial agents are sprayed directly into the air.

Since 1979, the Army has conducted more than 170 open air tests at Dugway Proving Ground, 70 miles from Salt Lake City, as part of an expanded biological warfare program. Moreover, Army officials steadfastly assert their right to test outdoors anywhere in the country, including in urban areas. The Pentagon insists -despite a pile of contrary evidence -that the tests are harmless.

The Army admits it is releasing a bacteria called Bacillus subtilis in Utah ''from time to time'' to simulate biological warfare attacks with the more lethal Bacillus anthracis, which causes anthrax. Other bacteria, including Serratia marcescens, have also been used there in open air tests.

These bacteria are the same ''simulants'' that were sprayed in cities during the 1950's and 1960's to see how well they could spread and survive. Hundreds of mock attacks were conducted, including the release of bacteria during peak travel hours in New York City's subway system and in the main terminal of Washington's National Airport.

In the late 1970's, when the tests became public knowledge, the Army insisted that they were harmless. But in 1950, one San Franciscan died and others became ill from urinary tract and heart infections after the Army sprayed Serratia marcescens on the city.

Unaware of the Army's test, doctors in San Francisco wrote about the unusual Serratia infections in a medical journal. They had never before encountered such an outbreak. Although the infections began three days after the spraying, the Army decided that the timing was ''apparently coincidental'' and that testing should continue. Neither then nor in later tests has the Army monitored the health of the people exposed.

Pentagon spokesmen testified at a Senate hearing in 1977 that open air tests were no longer taking place but that they would be resumed if the Army felt the need. It is this newly felt need that is making Utah residents, among others restless. Although Bacillus subtilis is not as dangerous as some other micro-organisms, it can cause infections and, among the very old or young and people weakened by other conditions, fatalities. The Army's denial of risk is simply not supportable.

Stranger still is the remark by an Army public affairs officer that Bacillus subtilis is not a ''genuine bacteriological agent.'' Rather, she said, it is merely a simulant that ''mimics characteristics of biological material.''

The suggestion that any bacteria are not biological material is Orwellian newspeak. Yet, it serves a purpose. A 1969 Federal law holds that the military must notify local civilian officials when tests might expose people to biological or chemical agents.

And this could easily happen. Bacteria sprayed at Dugway Proving Ground, for example, could float over the fence - as nerve gas released there in 1968 did, killing 6,000 sheep 20 miles away. Yet, county health authorities near Dugway say they have never been notified about the spraying of biological agents.

Most disturbing is the Army's claim of a right to test whenever and wherever it thinks necessary. A retired major general, William M. Creasy, commander of the testing program in the 50's and 60's, testified at a court trial in 1981 that the public was kept in the dark to avoid panic. Testing in cities was necessary, he said, because biological warfare agents are ''designed to work against people, and you have to test them in the kind of place where people live and work.''

Some may doubt that open air testing with bacteria should take place at all. But if it does, the public has a right to know what bacteria are being used, when and where. No matter how safe the Pentagon thinks its tests are, it should not use people as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.

[Acala]

Grant-driven stupidity. It rules the nation now.

[Anti Federalist]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_112

Project 112 was a biological and chemical weapon experimentation project conducted by the United States Department of Defense and CIA handled by the Deseret Test Center and United States Army Chemical Materials Agency from 1962 to 1973. The project started under John F. Kennedy's administration, and was authorized by his Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, as part of a total review of the US military. The name refers to its number in the 150 review process. Every branch of the armed services and CIA contributed funding and staff.

Project 112 primarily concerned the use of aerosols to disseminate biological agents that could produce "controlled temporary incapacitation" (CTI). The test program would be conducted on a large scale at "extracontinental test sites" in the Central and South Pacific and Alaska in conjunction with Britain, Canada and Australia.[1]

[Nirvikalpa]

Signs just started going up for this...

http://24.media.tumblr.com/9174c909a3309a5f288c4902d11c6687/tumblr_mmnh3aHX9j1qfvy6ho1_500.jpg

[pcosmar]

Trains and Gas..
What could go wrong?

[Dianne]

Living in New York is insane to begin with ... Who the hell wants to be a Bloomberg tart ....

The most disgusting state in the country, behind California and North Carolina ... I would run as fast as I can. Mafia always been strong in New York, CAlifornia and North Carolina ... still is....................... run like hell from those states.

[Natural Citizen]

Aum Shinrikyo (or Aum Supreme Truth) is the name of a terrorist cult operating in Japan, though the cult is now known by the name Aleph. The group is most famous for their 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway system.

Approved as a religious entity in 1989 under Japanese law, the group ran candidates in a Japanese parliamentary election in 1990. Over time the cult began to emphasize the imminence of the end of the world and stated that the United States would initiate Armageddon by starting World War III with Japan.

http://www.japan-101.com/culture/aum_shinrikyo_cult.htm

There was already a thread on this "drill" weeks ago fwiw.