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FrankRep
04-20-2013, 03:05 PM
FBI got information from Russian FSB that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was radical Islam follower (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-got-information-from-foreign-government-that-tamerlan-tsarnaev-was-radical-islam-follower/2013/04/20/d171986c-a9d9-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html)


Washington Post
April 20, 2013



WASHINGTON — The Russian FSB intelligence security service told the FBI in early 2011 about information that Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, was a follower of radical Islam, two law enforcement officials said Saturday.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a shootout, and his younger brother was captured alive. They were identified by authorities and relatives as ethnic Chechens from southern Russia who had been in the U.S. for about a decade.



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Here's the strange part:

Putin and the Russian FSB have been training radical terrorists for many years, including top al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Something odd is going on.




Poisoned KGB defector exposed Russia's backing of al-Qaeda (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/15161-poisoned-kgb-defector-exposed-russia-s-backing-of-al-qaeda)

The New American
Dec 11, 2006


Russian defector Alexander Litvinenko is in critical condition at London's University College Hospital, where he is under police protection. Scotland Yard is investigating the case as a suspected "deliberate poisoning."

The BBC reported on November 20 that clinical toxicologist Dr. John Henry had said there was "no doubt" that the ex-spy had been poisoned by a potentially lethal dose of thallium. "It is tasteless, colorless, odorless. It takes about a gram--you know, a large pinch of salt like in your food--to kill you," Dr. Henry said.

Since escaping to England in 2000, Litvinenko has been a thorn in the side of Russian president Vladimir Putin. Litvinenko, a colonel in the FSB (the renamed Soviet KGB), has made a number of explosive claims. In his 2002 book, Blowing Up Russia: Terror From Within, he charged that the 1999 series of apartment bombings in Moscow and other Russian cities were the handiwork of Putin (a former KGB/FSB chief) and the FSB, not Chechen separatists, as Putin had claimed. Putin used the bombings, which killed over 300 and injured many more, to stir up outrage and public support for a second brutal war on Chechnya.

One of Litvinenko's most important accusations is his charge that Ayman al-Zawahiri, reportedly al-Qaeda's "Number 2" commander, second only to Osama bin Laden, had been trained by the Soviet KGB/FSB. "I was working in that section at the time," Litvinenko said in a 2005 interview in Poland, "and I can confirm the fact [that] Zawahiri was not the only link between the FSB and Al Qaeda."

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Defector: Putin's KGB trained top al-Qaeda terrorists (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/15162-defector-putin-s-kgb-trained-top-al-qaeda-terrorists)

The New American
Aug 8, 2005


Ayman al-Zawahiri, the reputed Number 2 chief in al-Qaeda and the man second only to Osama bin Laden on the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" list, was trained by the Russian FSB (formerly known as the KGB). That's the story told by ex-FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who fled Russia in 2000. According to Litvinenko, as reported in the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita, on July 17, "Ayman al-Zawahiri trained at a Federal Security Service (FSB, former KGB) base in Dagestan in 1998." "He was then transferred to Afghanistan," the defector says, "where he became Osama bin Laden's deputy."

Mr. Litvinenko's brief revelation in Rzeczpospolita provides confirmation for suspicions many counterterrorism analysts have held concerning al-Zawahiri, whom federal authorities have called the "mastermind of 9/11." As reported in THE NEW AMERICAN in 2001, al-Zawahiri had been very active as the purported top leader of Islamist terrorist operations in Bosnia-Herzegovina during Yugoslavia's civil war. Throughout that period, he operated from a special headquarters in Sofia, the capital of Communist-run Bulgaria, which had been for decades a primary surrogate for Soviet training and sponsorship of terrorism. It was apparent that the Russians were playing both sides in the conflict, openly supporting the Serbs and covertly helping the Iranian-backed Muslims.

After helping establish Iranian control over the Bosnian military, al-Zawahiri embarked on a mysterious trip that took him first through China, where he conducted financial dealings with one of the Communist government's banks. Then it was on to Chechnya. Al-Zawahiri then crossed the border from Chechnya to Russian-controlled Dagestan, where he was arrested and "imprisoned" for six months. More likely, his "detention" was a cover for a period of training, planning, and debriefing. Through some supposed miracle of Allah, he escaped and made his way to Afghanistan, where he hooked up with bin Laden.

Is al-Zawahiri an Islamic fundamentalist or a Russian (Soviet) agent? Litvinenko's disclosures undermine the former and support the latter. After all, why would a devout Muslim do his banking in China, choose Bulgaria for his headquarters, and sojourn in Russia? And why would he be obsessed with jihad against the U.S. when it is Russia that slaughtered hundreds of thousands of his co-religionists in Afghanistan and Chechnya, and when it is Russia and China that continue to oppress and persecute millions of Muslims today?

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WikiLeaks Evidence: Russia Sponsoring Islamic Terror (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/8637-wikileaks-evidence-russia-sponsoring-islamic-terror)

The New American
12 December 2010


The WikiLeaks release of U.S. State Department cables provides evidence that U.S. officials believed Russia is using Iran and Venezuela to provide sophisticated weapons, including MANPAD missiles, to terrorist groups.



Russian Red Jihad (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/13069-russian-red-jihad)

The New American
02 October 2012


In a recent exclusive article for World Net Daily, former Soviet-bloc Romanian intelligence officer Lt. General Ion Mihai Pacepa writes how the recent wave of Islamic radicalism in the Middle East, from the Arab Spring to the recent 9/11/2012 Benghazi and Cairo attacks, were not the work of spontaneous attacks, but rather the result of a decades-long carefully planned operation by the Soviet Union.
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Shorty before he was assassinated via polonium poisoning in 2006, KGB/FSB defector Alexander Litvinenko said, “The center of global terrorism is not in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan or the Chechen Republic. The terrorism infection creeps away worldwide from the cabinets of the Lubyanka Square and the Kremlin.”

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Putin, Poison, and Murder (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/14636-putin-poison-and-murder)


The New American
22 January 2007



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What Litvinenko Knew

Mr. Litvinenko, an ex-agent of the Soviet KGB (and its successor, the Russian FSB), was a fierce critic of Putin even before fleeing to Britain with his family in 2000. He had first come to the attention of the Western media in 1998 while still a lieutenant colonel in the FSB, creating a stir with his public revelation that he had been ordered to assassinate Berezovsky, one of Russia’s richest new oligarchs. It was an order he refused to carry out. The head of the FSB at the time: Vladimir Putin.

After obtaining asylum in England, Mr. Litvinenko became an even bigger thorn in Putin’s side. His powerful 2002 book, Blowing Up Russia: Terror From Within, with Yuri Felshtinsky, presents convincing evidence which supports the charges of investigative journalists and Russian analysts that the infamous series of apartment bombings in Moscow and Volgodonsk in 1999 were provocations by Putin’s FSB, not the work of Chechen terrorists. The September 1999 bombings killed over 300 people and wounded hundreds of others. Putin, who was named prime minister under President Boris Yeltsin just three weeks before the bombings began, expertly played up the incidents to stir public outrage in favor of retaliation against Chechnya.

Yeltsin resigned under mysterious circumstances on December 31, 1999, naming Putin to succeed him as acting president. Putin then surprised other presidential candidates and gave himself an advantage by holding the presidential election in March 2000, rather than in the fall, as previously scheduled. Playing up his popular hardline-against-terrorism image, Putin easily rode to victory. The bombings in Russia that were blamed on the Chechens couldn’t have come at a more opportune time for Putin — or at a worse time for the Chechens, because they already had most of the concessions they were likely to get from the Russians and any violence would mean a loss of these concessions.

As Russia’s FSB chief, then as prime minister, and finally as president, Vladimir Putin has been the driving force behind Russia’s brutal terror occupation of Chechnya. Under his reign, Russian bombers have pounded Chechnya’s cities and villages into rubble, while Russian ground forces have systematically en gaged in massacres of civilians, as well as widespread torture, rape, and looting. At the same time, Putin has invoked the threat of Chechen terrorism in Russia to justify more and more police-state controls in Russia and greater centralization of power in his hands.

Putin’s brutal foreign and domestic policies have earned him many critics, both at home and abroad. Many of his harshest critics inside Russia have already been silenced — by murder, prison, or intimidation. Litvinenko was, arguably, one of his most potent critics outside of Russia. As a former KGB/FSB insider, Litvinenko had specific knowledge about Putin’s FSB operations and brought a level of credibility to many of the most serious charges against Putin. Besides the ordered assassination of Berezovsky and 1999 terror bombings, those charges include:

• The murder of Anna Politkovskaya, Russia’s bravest and most famous investigative reporter. Best known for her repeated dangerous travels inside Chechnya and her unflinching reporting on Russian atrocities there, she was also the author of three books — The Dirty War, A Small Corner of Hell, and Putin’s Russia — all of which severely indict Putin and his regime. Litvinenko was close to Politkovskaya, and in a presentation to international journalists at London’s Frontline Club, an independent media group, he outlined the evidence for his charge that Putin was directly responsible for her assassination. (You can watch that presentation in streaming video at www.frontlineclub.com.) Politkovskaya survived a poisoning attempt in 2004, but in October 2006, just three weeks before the Litvinenko poisoning, she was gunned down in the elevator of her Moscow apartment building.

• The Ryazan Incident. On the night of September 22, 1999, an alert resident of an apartment complex in the Russian city of Ryazan reported suspicious activities to local police. Responding, the police found a large quantity of hexogene explosive, timed to detonate at 5:30 the next morning. They evacuated the building and captured some of the bombers, who turned out to be (surprise!) FSB agents. Caught red-handed, the FSB then claimed that this had been merely an “exercise” and the substance was not re ally hexogene, but sugar. Litvinenko, in his book and in interviews, showed that the planned Ryazan bombing was to be the culminating incident justifying the invasion of Chechnya.

• The 2004 Beslan Massacre. On September 1, 2004, terrorists took 1,200 children, parents, and teachers hostage at an elementary school in Beslan, a town in the Russian republic of North Ossetia. The Russian military attacked the school with flamethrowers, grenades, and ma chine guns. The death toll of 365 included 186 children, not to mention the hundreds wounded. In addition to outrage over the carnage caused by the Russian military attack on the school, there ensued demands for information about the “terrorists.” Why had they been recently released from an FSB prison and allowed into the Beslan area? Litvinenko explained why, showing that the only explanation that fit the evidence was that the Beslan Massacre was an FSB provocation.

• The FSB/al-Qaeda Connection. In a 2005 interview with the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita, Litvinenko revealed that Ayman al-awahiri, the reputed Number 2 chief in al-Qaeda and the man second only to Osama bin Laden on the FBI’s “Most Wanted Terrorists” list, was trained by the Russian FSB. According to Litvinenko, “Ayman al-awahiri trained at a Federal Security Service (FSB) base in Dagestan in 1998,” before being “transferred to Afghanistan, where he became Osama bin Laden’s deputy.” And, charged Litvinenko, al-Zawahiri was not the only al-Qaeda operative trained by the FSB.

In the grim Stalinist world of the KGB/ FSB, revealing any one of these state secrets would be more than sufficient cause for relentless pursuit and execution. Arguably the most damaging disclosure for Putin is Litvinenko’s charge concerning the FSB/al-Qaeda connection. All of the other above-mentioned revelations deal with Russia’s “internal affairs” and Chechnya. And while world leaders and the world press have occasionally ex pressed outrage over the Kremlin’s ongoing barbarities there, it is by now pretty clear to Putin & Company that they have little to fear from “world opinion” over their Chechen operations. But al-Qaeda? Since 9/11, it has become the new global menace, supposedly even more dangerous than the old “Evil Empire,” the Soviet Union, ever was. It certainly wouldn’t do to have it widely known that our “partner” against terror, Putin, and his FSB, are joined at the hip with the perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

However, as explosive as Litvinenko’s FSB/al Qaeda charge is, it never caused Putin to suffer any political blowback because the Western press, in general, never bothered even to report it, let alone investigate it. So, is there possibly another even more compelling reason for Mr. Putin to take the risk of killing a British citizen (Litvinenko had just received British citizenship shortly before his death) on British soil? Indeed, it seems there is.

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Exposing Terrorism: Inside The Terror Triangle (Russian Connection) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZzrT0Rg1aY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZzrT0Rg1aY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZzrT0Rg1aY



Art Thompson reveals there is more to the war on terror than meets the eye. He discusses terrorism, how it has been used in the past, reveals the state sponsors and others in the supporting network and demonstrates how Islam is being used to mask the real culprits. (2009, 17 min., DVD) A discussion of terrorism, how it has been used in the past, reveals the state sponsors and others in the supporting network and demonstrates how Islam is being used to mask the real culprits.

Galileo Galilei
04-20-2013, 03:06 PM
Last I checked, radical Islam does not oppose jogging in the springtime.

FrankRep
04-20-2013, 03:15 PM
How Vladimir Putin Could Help Boston (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/04/vladimir_putin_s_intelligence_service_knows_chechn ya_the_russian_president.html)
The Russian president offered to help in any way he could. Actually, he could do a lot of good.


Slate.com
April 19, 2013



Just hours after the Boston Marathon bombings, Russian President Vladimir Putin condemned the act as a “disgusting (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-boston-bombings-disgusting-crime-18990567#.UXFRnCtERHk)” crime and offered to help in any way he could.

Now’s his chance.

The Tsarnaev brothers appear to have Chechen roots; the older, now-deceased brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, may have touted radical Islamists on his YouTube site (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube). (The only question is whether the site’s holder is the same Tamerlan Tsarnaev.) There is no doubt, then, that Putin has a big interest in helping out with the FBI’s investigation—a much bigger interest than he did on Monday, before the Chechen link was suspected. More to the point, there is very little doubt that he also has the means to help out.
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Update: Breaking news that Tamerlan Tsarnaev traveled to Russia in January 2012 and didn't return until July strengthens my point about what Putin could do. Was Tsarnaev visiting family (his father lives in Dagestan), getting training from terrorists, sightseeing, or all of the above? We don't know, but Russian intelligence could find out.

muh_roads
04-20-2013, 03:17 PM
Washington Post: "Because the FBI said so"

enhanced_deficit
04-20-2013, 04:28 PM
Could it be America has way too much "diversity" ? How else is that a "radical Islamist" became New England's golden glove heavy weight boxing champ, rubbed shoulders with Micky Ward and landed ex coach of Mike Tyson?

http://c.o0bg.com/metro/2013/04/19/older-brother-was-boxing-champ-before-was-terrorist/CbDYQhfNJkttdoo0KnxZ6K/story.html

This guy does not seem like follower of "radical Islam" going by this boxing practice photo:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/04/11_0.jpg

He could be follower of anti Russian radical separatism, revenge-ism etc but that will be determined once evidence comes out.

angelatc
04-20-2013, 04:49 PM
I saw that. We spend how many billions on Homeland Security, and Russian Intelligence knows more about us than they do.

FrankRep
04-20-2013, 05:03 PM
I saw that. We spend how many billions on Homeland Security, and Russian Intelligence knows more about us than they do.

This puzzles me:

Boston bombing suspect under FBI surveillance for years, says mother
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/20/boston-bombing-suspect-fbi-surveillance-claim

FrankRep
04-20-2013, 05:37 PM
Interesting...

President Obama thanks Putin for help in Boston
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/04/19/obama_thanks_putin_for_help_in_boston

Brett85
04-20-2013, 05:51 PM
This guy does not seem like follower of "radical Islam" going by this boxing practice photo:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/04/11_0.jpg

So followers of radical Islam don't box?

FrankRep
04-20-2013, 06:07 PM
This guy does not seem like follower of "radical Islam" going by this boxing practice photo:


Uncle: Mentors 'radicalized' older Boston bombing suspect
"I strongly believe they were just puppets and executors of something of bigger scale"
http://www.today.com/news/uncle-mentors-radicalized-older-boston-bombing-suspect-6C9529666

Brian Coulter
04-20-2013, 08:33 PM
So followers of radical Islam don't box?


Not strapping bombs to one's self...not very radical.

sailingaway
04-20-2013, 10:45 PM
the problem I have with this meme is that it is the bomb part that is the problem, not the Islam part. I don't like anyone who goes the bomb route, no matter the rest. Like those SPLC lists where there is a group saying stuff and maybe two somewhat attached are a real problem so they paint the whole group as potential terrorists. Constitutionalists. "Patriot Groups" according to them.

Constitutionalists and Muslims arent an issue. It is the bomb people who are an issue.

ClydeCoulter
04-20-2013, 11:01 PM
I saw that. We spend how many billions on Homeland Security, and Russian Intelligence knows more about us than they do.

Sure they do, when it's in the best interest of the US of A.

We have video of what looks like "suspect #1" being taken alive and well. We have threads talking about "no martial law" in Boston. We have a naked man in the video being put into a police car, alive and well. If it's not "suspect #1" then who is it and why are they being treated that way, wherever the hell it or who ever the hell it is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=u6Te9mMuhag

FrankRep
04-21-2013, 09:23 AM
North Caucasus rebels deny link to Boston attack: website (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hz0tmpokJ_dZ-S6DbTJa6nmUJpsA?docId=CNG.018e1625845b5f1688282300 d99320f1.4d1)


AFP
April 21, 2013



"If the US authorities really are interested in finding the true organisers of the Boston bombings... they should start focusing on the involvement of the Russian secret services," said the rebel site.

Aratus
04-21-2013, 11:12 AM
technically they are very correct about the former USSR and the legendary informer net STALIN once had.
given that people who joined KGB in the mid 1950s were trained by many of the former NKVD people, with
the collapse of the Soviet gov't, some KGB types stayed, others went elsewhere, so when one tosses in the
crime rate, the very isolated separatist and/or independence movements are very justified in their paranoia.