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Origanalist
04-20-2013, 08:55 AM
Insists All Chechen-Americans Are a Potential Threat

by Jason Ditz, April 19, 2013




Rep. Peter King (R – NY) doesn’t need an excuse to call for massive increases in spying on Muslims; he does that all the time anyhow. Yet the Boston bombing certain provides a pretext to get those arguments rehashed all over again.

King, who spent last year holding Congressional hearings on the “real threat” posed by America’s Muslim minority, demanded “increased surveillance” on all Muslims nationwide, with particular interest in Chechen-Americans, who he termed a “new front” in the global war on terror.

Of course there are almost no Chechen-Americans in the first place, and indeed not that many Chechens on the whole planet, but Rep. King seems keen to move against the few hundred there actually are in any ways he can.

King insisted that not moving toward more overt persecution of American Muslims would be a sign of political correctness gone mad, saying that the government needed to fully explore the radicalization of Chechens in particular.
http://news.antiwar.com/2013/04/19/rep-king-boston-justifies-more-surveillance-of-all-muslims/

BSU kid
04-20-2013, 09:07 AM
Peter King is a sorry excuse for a republican; he cries for his sandy aid, wants constant surveillance of American citizens, wants to ban guns, and now this. If he were some representative from the deep south, the press would be calling him a racist.

Christian Liberty
04-20-2013, 10:25 AM
I hate my state...

2young2vote
04-20-2013, 10:40 AM
Sounds like a typical Republican.

Christian Liberty
04-20-2013, 10:54 AM
Sounds like a typical Republican.

There's some truth to this but the Northeastern ones and the other "RINOs" seem to be the worst of both worlds

Guys like Jim Demint and Marco Rubio are at least good on the issues that Republicans are usually good on.

Anti Federalist
04-20-2013, 10:55 AM
And this goes here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?408037-From-Terrorist-Bagman-to-Homeland-Security-Overlord-The-Curious-Career-of-Peter-King&highlight=IRA+Peter+King

Read about IRA terrorist supporting King.

RonPaulFanInGA
04-20-2013, 10:58 AM
Certainly many neoconservatives will be cheering this on, but will quickly be crying foul when someone dares to suggest the same thing about them if another McVeigh comes along.

enhanced_deficit
04-20-2013, 12:36 PM
Apparently Rep. Peter King was himself a terrorists supporter and was barred from some functions as he was a terrorisn suspect. It is probably too late for team Obama to do enhanced interrogation of Peter King but he has some explaining to do about his role in supporting terrorism in the past against top US ally in Iraq/Afghanistan:


Peter King's Terrorism Problem

The fiery GOPer says WikiLeaks supports terrorism. Legal experts say congressmen who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones—or raise money for the IRA.

But NorAid's terror ties were hardly a secret. The Justice Department launched numerous (http://www.nytimes.com/1981/10/02/nyregion/man-in-queens-accused-of-plot-to-arm-ira.html?scp=7&sq=Irish%20Northern%20Aid%20guns&st=cse) probes (http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50915FD3D5C137B93C4A81789D95F41 8785F9&scp=31&sq=Irish%20Northern%20Aid%20guns&st=cse) of group leaders for smuggling weapons (http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70C10FA3D5C12728DDDAD0A94D1405B 898BF1D3&scp=2&sq=NorAid%20foreign%20principal&st=cse) into Ulster (their boasts to the press might have been a tip-off), and in 1981, a federal judge ordered (http://openjurist.org/668/f2d/159/attorney-general-of-united-states-v-irish-northern-aid-committee) the group to list the IRA as its foreign principal, stating that there was "uncontroverted evidence" that NorAid was "providing money and services for other than relief purposes." Throughout all of this, King embraced a role (http://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/10/world/a-republican-politician-in-both-us-and-ulster.html?scp=11&sq=Peter%20King%20IRA&st=cse) not entirely unlike the one he plays today: a metaphorical bomb-thrower. He raised money for NorAid, spoke at its events, and tirelessly championed the anti-British cause. In 1985, he convened a press conference before the start of New York City's St. Patrick's Day parade (for which he was Grand Marshal), and offered a defiant defense of the IRA: "As we march up the avenue and share all the joy," he declared, "let us never forget the men and women who are suffering and, most of all, the men and women who are fighting." In an interview with the New York Times two years later, King put his role in historical conext: "I'm the Ollie North of Ireland (http://www.nytimes.com/1987/08/10/world/a-republican-politician-in-both-us-and-ulster.html?scp=11&sq=Peter%20King%20IRA&st=cse)," he declared.

British censors kept King off the airwaves (http://www.nysun.com/national/rep-king-and-the-ira-the-end-of-an-extraordinary/15853/) (no small feat), and frequent newspaper profiles made note of his "militant" rhetoric, fierce support for the IRA, and prolific fundraising. So reviled was King across the pond that when New York's archbishop dared to embrace King at the city's St. Patrick's Day parade, London's Daily Mail dedicated an entire editorial to the affair and called it the "handshake of shame." Exchanging formalities with the then-comptroller of Nassau County, the paper explained, was tantamount to slapping terror on the back.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/peter-king-terrorism-problem



“There’s been some surprise in the United States but also in Britain that you have a job in looking and investigating into terrorism when your own past quotes about terrorism … seem to [make you] an apologist for terrorism,” Winnick said.

Winnick went on to recall several remarks King made in the ’80s, including, “We must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry,” and, “If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.”

http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/09/15/peter-king-backs-ira-terror-against-british-imperialism/#sthash.Ai7sBnsN.dpbs

Antischism
04-20-2013, 12:52 PM
I hate my state...

Hang in there, NY brother (or sister). -fist bump-


As for Peter King, fuck that guy. Really, that's all I can really muster right now. A well deserved FUCK YOU.

AuH20
04-20-2013, 01:07 PM
They had these guys surveilled for years. This should have never happened.

Anti Federalist
04-20-2013, 01:07 PM
“If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.” - Congressman Peter King R-NY

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Anti Federalist
04-20-2013, 01:11 PM
They had these guys surveilled for years. This should have never happened.

So it was either:

A - An "inside job".

B - Another fuck up, after trillions being spent on the surveillance grid.

C - Surveillance that did not warrant an arrest, making it illegal surveillance, and will result in even greater losses of liberty.

Or any combination of the above.

AuH20
04-20-2013, 01:17 PM
So it was either:

A - An "inside job".

B - Another fuck up, after trillions being spent on the surveillance grid.

C - Surveillance that did not warrant an arrest, making it illegal surveillance, and will result in even greater losses of liberty.

Or any combination of the above.

More like a "guided job" most likely. Remember the other occupants of McVeigh's Ryder's truck that was sent down the memory hole by a district judge? No one will ever vote to cut anti-terrorism and security state budgets for the foreseeable future.

heavenlyboy34
04-20-2013, 01:45 PM
“If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.” - Congressman Peter King R-NY

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
+rep Terror is the poor man's war, war is the rich man's terror.

phill4paul
04-20-2013, 01:49 PM
“If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it.” - Congressman Peter King R-NY

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

:eek: Christ, this guy is amazing.

Anti Federalist
04-20-2013, 01:50 PM
+rep Terror is the poor man's war, war is the rich man's terror.

One right back.

That is insightful.

Yours?

Origanalist
04-20-2013, 01:52 PM
And this goes here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?408037-From-Terrorist-Bagman-to-Homeland-Security-Overlord-The-Curious-Career-of-Peter-King&highlight=IRA+Peter+King

Read about IRA terrorist supporting King.

From the link....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o6GQr8m5cOY

Christian Liberty
04-20-2013, 02:19 PM
Hang in there, NY brother (or sister). -fist bump-




Brother. You're in New York CITY though, so I feel bad for you. We're on Long Island.

There's no way I'm spending my whole life here though. If the United States burns state by state, rather than all at once, New York will fall first along with California and Massachusettes.

Christian Liberty
04-20-2013, 02:20 PM
Reps to Heavenlyboy34 AND AntiFederalist for insightful comments.

heavenlyboy34
04-20-2013, 02:24 PM
One right back.

That is insightful.

Yours?
Nah. It's actually somewhat a cliche I've heard a million times. I don't know who originally came up with it. I believe it was popularized during the Vietnam era. I assumed everyone here had heard it at least once.
ETA: You're right that's it's a profound and insightful observation. That's why I memorized it as soon as I heard it way back when. :D :cool:

Krzysztof Lesiak
04-20-2013, 02:31 PM
One crazy fucker. Should get his ass primaryed.

Christian Liberty
04-20-2013, 02:35 PM
Absolutely agree.

Anti Federalist
04-20-2013, 05:58 PM
Nah. It's actually somewhat a cliche I've heard a million times. I don't know who originally came up with it. I believe it was popularized during the Vietnam era. I assumed everyone here had heard it at least once.
ETA: You're right that's it's a profound and insightful observation. That's why I memorized it as soon as I heard it way back when. :D :cool:

I'll be damned, nope, never recall hearing it ever before.

Thanks again for posting.

heavenlyboy34
04-20-2013, 10:17 PM
I'll be damned, nope, never recall hearing it ever before.

Thanks again for posting.
Ye be most welcome, good sir! :)

Anti Federalist
04-21-2013, 12:21 PM
///

jmdrake
04-21-2013, 12:23 PM
And this goes here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?408037-From-Terrorist-Bagman-to-Homeland-Security-Overlord-The-Curious-Career-of-Peter-King&highlight=IRA+Peter+King

Read about IRA terrorist supporting King.

http://markhumphrys.com/Bitmaps/plo.ira.jpg

jmdrake
04-21-2013, 12:25 PM
From the link....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=o6GQr8m5cOY

Everytime I see that video I SMH that Luke didn't ask the question "What's the difference between your past support of IRA terrorism and other terrorism?"

kcchiefs6465
04-21-2013, 12:32 PM
Everytime I see that video I SMH that Luke didn't ask the question "What's the difference between your past support of IRA terrorism and other terrorism?"
Well for what it's worth he does still support terrorism.