Why our kids are so Marxist as teens and into adulthood, here you go.

[APAT Warrior]

Union Teachers Explain How to Push Marxism in the Classroom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDeXhmTz_0M


No wonder our kids for the last 30 something odd years are churning out as a bunch of American hating Marxist's. I mean, this is pretty sickening. Especially the last 15 years of schooling, it has made kids so hateful of this country. I know there are probably more patriotic kids than not, but there are still plenty of them who are lied to and brainwashed with lies about capitalism and socialism being the better option.

[heavenlyboy34]

Faux Marxist idealist who doesn't know what it is.

[Anti Federalist]

Faux Marxist idealist who doesn't know what it is.

http://fumaga.com/i/burn-books-ban-music-hate-blacks-murder-gays-become-symbol-of-hope-and-freedome-che-guevara.jpg

[Mani]

http://fumaga.com/i/burn-books-ban-music-hate-blacks-murder-gays-become-symbol-of-hope-and-freedome-che-guevara.jpg


Look at those Right wing Nut heads....



wait...huh???

[MRK]

ROFL @ her T-Shirt that reads "TAX THE RICH"

[The Goat]

she's smuggling raisins. XD

[Christian Liberty]

What do "Hating America" and "Being a Marxist" have in common? Isn't it possible to hold one without the other?

Proudly hating the US GOVERNMENT since 1929, even though I was born in 1995...

[BAllen]

What do "Hating America" and "Being a Marxist" have in common? Isn't it possible to hold one without the other?

Proudly hating the US GOVERNMENT since 1929, even though I was born in 1995...

Because they teach kids to hate our constitution, and the founders were a bunch of racist old white men. THAT kind of America hating propaganda.

[Christian Liberty]

True, true...

[DonovanJames]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Ox6vGteek


Because they teach kids to hate our constitution, and the founders were a bunch of racist old white men. THAT kind of America hating propaganda.

History is wrote by the victors, they very well could have been white men although it may not have been "racism" per say; more so a different definition of what would constitute as "Man"

[JK/SEA]

TAX THE RICH....

Here, lets finish that sentence:

FEED THE POOR, TILL THERE ARE NO RICH NO MORE.

a hat tip to Alvin Lee.

[bolil]

Schools generate rationals for opinions engendered by other media. Movies mostly. Movie theaters are the best place, hands down, for inculcation. Once the attitudes and or ideas have been planted, the kid goes to school where he or she learns facts that prove that idea or attitude correct. Lincoln the movie will convince anyone without prior knowledge (the young, usually) that the Civil War was fought primarily because of slavery. Then this idea, having been planted in the theater, is refined, or grown, in American History class. This process can go either way, I suppose, but each medium of propaganda has its own peculiar angle. Movies are raw emotion. Schooling appeals to intellect/authority, while hamstringing it. Magazines have their place, newspapers, billboards, we are quite literally surrounded by propaganda. Young people, and sadly more intelligent ones, are just the most susceptible. Little Albert, don't forget that poor soul. Granted, current methods are much more sophisticated and coverty, if not more effective.

[Christian Liberty]

When I watched "Lincoln" I was cheering on that one senator who mockingly called him a King and a Tyrant. I was impressed with the developers for even providing evidence of his more crappy actions. Granted, they were in such a way that only someone such as myself who already knows how much Lincoln sucked would notice them, but they were there.

[LibertyEagle]

What do "Hating America" and "Being a Marxist" have in common? Isn't it possible to hold one without the other?

Proudly hating the US GOVERNMENT since 1929, even though I was born in 1995...

Hating the people occupying our government is a totally different thing than hating America.

[LibertyEagle]

Because they teach kids to hate our constitution, and the founders were a bunch of racist old white men. THAT kind of America hating propaganda.

Yes, I agree. They no longer teach the principles upon which our country was founded and without the people understanding that, we are doomed.

[BAllen]

Schools generate rationals for opinions engendered by other media. Movies mostly. Movie theaters are the best place, hands down, for inculcation. Once the attitudes and or ideas have been planted, the kid goes to school where he or she learns facts that prove that idea or attitude correct. Lincoln the movie will convince anyone without prior knowledge (the young, usually) that the Civil War was fought primarily because of slavery. Then this idea, having been planted in the theater, is refined, or grown, in American History class. This process can go either way, I suppose, but each medium of propaganda has its own peculiar angle. Movies are raw emotion. Schooling appeals to intellect/authority, while hamstringing it. Magazines have their place, newspapers, billboards, we are quite literally surrounded by propaganda. Young people, and sadly more intelligent ones, are just the most susceptible. Little Albert, don't forget that poor soul. Granted, current methods are much more sophisticated and coverty, if not more effective.

Truth is, Lincoln wanted to preserve the union, even if it meant freeing none of the slaves. He also advocated returning all the Negroes back to Africa. States have a right to secede in the Constitution. There were wealthy Black slave owners, and jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. They burned the South to cover up these facts. Their goal is to demonize white people as the only exploiters of slavery.

[Christian Liberty]

Hating the people occupying our government is a totally different thing than hating America.

Yeah, true, and I wasn't saying I hated America. I was saying you could conceivably hate America without also being a Marxist.

[jkob]

Tax the rich, using a MacBook

[JustinTime]

What do "Hating America" and "Being a Marxist" have in common? Isn't it possible to hold one without the other?

Not really. Marxism's central and most evil belief is that government has the right to take any and all property, to redistribute in a manner government deems "fair".

If you understand America as an idea, limited government, rather than a place on the map or a flag or some other meaningless symbol, then no, you cant hold both beliefs.

[heavenlyboy34]

Hating the people occupying our government is a totally different thing than hating America.
This^^ America is not American gov'ment (despite what college professors and media would have you believe).

[heavenlyboy34]

Not really. Marxism's central and most evil belief is that government has the right to take any and all property, to redistribute in a manner government deems "fair".

If you understand America as an idea, limited government, rather than a place on the map or a flag or some other meaningless symbol, then no, you cant hold both beliefs.
The Marxians believe in abolition of private property, but not necessarily by means of State force. (first plank of Communist Manifesto) Hence, some Marxians are also "anarchists", in the anarcho-communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism) sense.

[gwax23]

Whats wrong with that bitches voice? Chocking on the bullshit shes spewing?

[Christian Liberty]

Not really. Marxism's central and most evil belief is that government has the right to take any and all property, to redistribute in a manner government deems "fair".

If you understand America as an idea, limited government, rather than a place on the map or a flag or some other meaningless symbol, then no, you cant hold both beliefs.

You could hate America and be a fascist...

As for the idea, I love America as an idea. Unfortunately, there isn't a person breathing who's ever actually seen it. Abraham Lincoln killed it. Actually, there might still be a couple people alive from the Cleveland era, but they wouldn't remember it...

[APAT Warrior]

ROFL @ her T-Shirt that reads "TAX THE RICH"

I about spit my food out when seeing that.

[APAT Warrior]

Because they teach kids to hate our constitution, and the founders were a bunch of racist old white men. THAT kind of America hating propaganda.

Perfect reply. Better than mine would've been although mine would've been like yours, except longer.

[APAT Warrior]

Hating the people occupying our government is a totally different thing than hating America.

I hate the corrupt politicians and this government no matter who is in office. I love America though, and my loyalty to the Flag and Constitution is to not be compared to my disdain for the a@@hats who are actively destroying our country.

[KrokHead]

http://fumaga.com/i/burn-books-ban-music-hate-blacks-murder-gays-become-symbol-of-hope-and-freedome-che-guevara.jpg

lol

Luckily most Americans are stupid and hardly remember any Marxist ideals pushed onto them. No welfare state no problem.

[LibertyEagle]

You could hate America and be a fascist...
You are splitting hairs. Fascists are also believers in big government and its inherent oppression.


As for the idea, I love America as an idea. Unfortunately, there isn't a person breathing who's ever actually seen it. Abraham Lincoln killed it. Actually, there might still be a couple people alive from the Cleveland era, but they wouldn't remember it...

We didn't get where we are now, overnight. There was one heck of a lot more freedom when I was a child and yes, the "idea" was very much alive.

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Ox6vGteek



History is wrote by the victors, they very well could have been white men although it may not have been "racism" per say; more so a different definition of what would constitute as "Man"

That video is HORRIBLE!! :(

[affa]

The public school system is awful. I would never send my kids to them.

But... if anything, they're overly patriotic (forced Pledges of Allegiance), overly pro-corporate (Channel 1, supplied textbooks) and overly Christian.

It makes sense that kids are a bit more idealistic than adults. They still think they're indestructible, too. And they've yet to have the forced perception change that is having children. But at the same time, most adults aren't idealistic enough.

But focusing on every individual case where some teacher/school does something particularly stupid 'liberal' thing isn't helping anyone. There are plenty of equally stupid things they do that are anything but 'liberal'.

Focusing on one teacher doesn't make any sense, anyway. You can always find nutjobs and exceptions and worst case scenarios. Implying that's 'why' everything is a certain way is misguided.

[PaulConventionWV]

Union Teachers Explain How to Push Marxism in the Classroom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDeXhmTz_0M


No wonder our kids for the last 30 something odd years are churning out as a bunch of American hating Marxist's. I mean, this is pretty sickening. Especially the last 15 years of schooling, it has made kids so hateful of this country. I know there are probably more patriotic kids than not, but there are still plenty of them who are lied to and brainwashed with lies about capitalism and socialism being the better option.

I'm not particularly "patriotic" myself. I think patriotism is a vice. It's a collectivist form of thinking that is easily swayed by collectivist arguments that tout the "common good".

[PaulConventionWV]

Not really. Marxism's central and most evil belief is that government has the right to take any and all property, to redistribute in a manner government deems "fair".

If you understand America as an idea, limited government, rather than a place on the map or a flag or some other meaningless symbol, then no, you cant hold both beliefs.

You're a little too late to tell me what America is all about. I've already seen the Constitution-hating, America-loving hicks that dominate the Republican sphere and the opposite side which hates the Constitution just as much, and I've already completely separated myself from the idea of "America" being what the founders envisioned. So I'm not easily swayed by arguments that hating America is the same as hating the Constitution. America has become a nation of collectivists, like it or not, and I will have no part in it. I will not collectively praise the nation's people because I know not all Americans really give a shit about freedom. America as an idea is a fictional concept.

[PaulConventionWV]

That video is HORRIBLE!! :(

How so?

[PaulConventionWV]

The public school system is awful. I would never send my kids to them.

But... if anything, they're overly patriotic (forced Pledges of Allegiance), overly pro-corporate (Channel 1, supplied textbooks) and overly Christian.

It makes sense that kids are a bit more idealistic than adults. They still think they're indestructible, too. And they've yet to have the forced perception change that is having children. But at the same time, most adults aren't idealistic enough.

But focusing on every individual case where some teacher/school does something particularly stupid 'liberal' thing isn't helping anyone. There are plenty of equally stupid things they do that are anything but 'liberal'.

Focusing on one teacher doesn't make any sense, anyway. You can always find nutjobs and exceptions and worst case scenarios. Implying that's 'why' everything is a certain way is misguided.

Overly Christian? Now look, I agree with you on those other things, but with evolution being the state-sanctioned religion and the only one permitted to be taught in schools, I don't think our kids need any more help giving up religion than they've already had ever since the public school system was created. Who are you to say what the right amount of Christian is? Your private beliefs are private and it really has nothing to do with being overly patriotic. The irony here is that you say they're overly patriotic because they're forced to love government, and then you say they're too Christian when they're forced to believe in secular humanism.

[MaxPower]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Ox6vGteek



History is wrote by the victors, they very well could have been white men although it may not have been "racism" per say; more so a different definition of what would constitute as "Man"
That was an obnoxious, one-sided, and often misleading video-- in particular (as you may have imagined I was going to say), on the subject of Jefferson and slavery, in which it completely ignored his extensive anti-slavery record. Consider:

Yes, Jefferson owned slaves, but it was a result of his being born into a slave-owning family and, as a very young man, inheriting a bevy of slaves from his father, and then even more from his wife's father, not because Jefferson-- as a non-slaveholding adult with the fully-formed opinions he is famous for-- just decided to snag some slave labor for himself. Jefferson came to believe that slavery was absolutely wrong; he called it an "abominable crime," wrote passionately against it in his popular book "Notes on the State of Virginia" ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just"), included a passage in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence denouncing the transatlantic slave trade (deleted by the convention), sought to expand laws in the state of Virginia which would have enabled slaveholders to manumit their slaves, submitted the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, which included a provision prohibiting slavery in a huge chunk of U.S. territory, drafted a proposed Virginia state constitution which would have gradually abolished slavery in that state by forbidding the importation of slaves and making all blacks born after 1800 exempt from slavery, aggressively promoted and signed the law prohibiting the Transatlantic Slave Trade in 1808, etc. It is true he never freed the majority of his own slaves, though he toyed with the idea at various times throughout his life, but there were a number of reasons for this:
1. laws in the state of Virginia, particularly after Gabriel's Rebellion, made it very difficult for a slave owner to free his slaves even if he wanted to
2. he believed (or rationalized) that gradual emancipation of the slaves was the best route, because (for a number of claimed reasons) to turn them loose in white society in the prevailing conditions of the day would have put them in an even worse position than the one they were currently in
3. Jefferson was in personal debt (initially inherited, and never extinguished) throughout his adult life, and freeing the slaves (upon which his farm, his family, and his entire community were economically dependent) would have been near impossible for him financially.

Now, whether one buys Jefferson's justification for failing to free his own slaves or not, his record on slavery is certainly much, much different from what one would imagine after watching your video-- in point of fact, Jefferson arguably did more to put slavery on the path to extinction than any other man in U.S. history, and he did so deliberately.

[Christian Liberty]

If Ron Paul went back in time he would have been better than all of the Founders. The bottom line is, they were inconsistent. They were pretty darn brilliant, at least the anti-federalists were (The Hamiltonians, on the other hand, were the first tyrants.) They were excellent men. But their culture, as well as not having ever seen a fully-formulated libertarian theory, did cause some inconsistencies.