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Lucille
04-18-2013, 10:24 AM
They are the mythical 90%! Bette Midler added a percentage point so I'm assuming we'll see 91% repeated soon.

Are they really unaware that we already have background checks? If we spammed them form 4473 on twitter all day long, would they get it then?

Celebrity hive mind outraged by gun control vote
http://twitchy.com/2013/04/17/celebrity-hive-mind-outraged-by-gun-control-vote/


@MsTerryMcMillan

i would like to smack Rand Paul dead in his mouth.

I don't know who that broad is, but what did he do? He didn't get to filibuster it. Was it his accurate props crack?


Michael Ian Black ✔ @michaelianblack

Fuck it. I guess the NRA is right.

Michael Ian Black ✔ @michaelianblack

From now on I'm just going to agree with whoever wins. #NRA #frommycolddeadhands

The NRA is right, and smart move.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 10:32 AM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.

WM_in_MO
04-18-2013, 10:42 AM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.
Haven't we tried that?

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 10:44 AM
Haven't we tried that?

Yup, sure did.

Time to try it again.

paulbot24
04-18-2013, 10:51 AM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.

Agreed. The fact that you can not divide by zero does not make us united.

WM_in_MO
04-18-2013, 12:20 PM
Yup, sure did.

Time to try it again.
See you in camp FEMA

ZENemy
04-18-2013, 12:25 PM
See you in camp FEMA

People like us don't make it to the FEMA camps.

Pericles
04-18-2013, 12:28 PM
People like us don't make it to the FEMA camps.

Now you're talkin'.

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-18-2013, 12:30 PM
They are the mythical 90%! Bette Midler added a percentage point so I'm assuming we'll see 91% repeated soon.

Are they really unaware that we already have background checks? If we spammed them form 4473 on twitter all day long, would they get it then?

Celebrity hive mind outraged by gun control vote
http://twitchy.com/2013/04/17/celebrity-hive-mind-outraged-by-gun-control-vote/



I don't know who that broad is, but what did he do? He didn't get to filibuster it. Was it his accurate props crack?



The NRA is right, and smart move.
Leftists claim gun owners are violent. They are just scared because the leftists themselves are violent. They're always the ones joking about killing somebody or whatever. They're the fucking dangerous ones, which is more of a reason to have a gun, so when they turn into a full-out commiezombie, well you know the rest..




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvfgBXqgvY0

Seraphim
04-18-2013, 12:31 PM
"They're not going to take me alive!!"

Muse - Knights of Cydonia


People like us don't make it to the FEMA camps.

Acala
04-18-2013, 12:32 PM
This is why having the STATES enact these stupid laws is good. It will help divide the country physically as well as politically. It is hard to break off a geographic area when the population is so mixed up. We need some interstate migration.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 12:45 PM
This is why having the STATES enact these stupid laws is good. It will help divide the country physically as well as politically. It is hard to break off a geographic area when the population is so mixed up. We need some interstate migration.

Free. State. Project.

That is all.

HOLLYWOOD
04-18-2013, 12:54 PM
@MsTerryMcMillan

"i would like to smack Rand Paul dead in his mouth." How "NON-VIOLENT" of Terry McMillian... whata a lady. :rolleyes:

Lucille
04-18-2013, 01:50 PM
Obama did Bette (http://twitchy.com/2013/04/17/hear-this-gun-nuts-michael-moore-bette-midler-not-done-with-gun-grab-effort-taking-names/) one better! It's up to 92% now!


✔ @BarackObama

RT if you agree: I am one of the 92% of Americans who support background checks for gun sales. #NowIsTheTime

More celeb twitter tantrums: http://twitchy.com/2013/04/17/wil-wheaton-fck-the-nra-throws-hissy-fit-after-manchin-toomey-gun-control-legislation-failure/

Lucille
04-18-2013, 02:08 PM
I'll just leave these here.

Defined by one's enemies
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/04/defined-by-ones-enemies.html


I could not be more pleased to know that I am not on the side of chinless men without chests - and I use the term "men" in a very loose sense - such as John Scalzi and Wil Wheaton.


Fuck the NRA.

Wil Wheaton (@wilw) April 17, 2013

Savor the sweetness of their tears. Savor their angry bitterness about your ability to defend yourself against their proxies with lethal force. And remember that because they will never stop being afraid, the rabbits will never stop trying to defang the wolves.

The sweetness of their tears
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-sweetness-of-their-tears.html


Savor the angry tears shed by the forcible disarmament fetishists at the New York Times. Not even their constant waving of the false and bloody flag of Newton was enough to sway the American people into volunteering another step towards giving government a monopoly on gun violence.
[...]
Their impotent rage oozes from every sentence in the article. It was one thing for Americans to ignore Hispanic drug dealers and black youths killing each other in their ethnic enclaves, and to spare no sympathy for white, middle-aged men shooting themselves in despair over their unemployment and divorces, but this involved cute little children, kindergarteners no less, and white ones at that! About the only way to tug more effectively at America's heartstrings would have been to advertise slaughtered puppies, kittens, and bunnies.

And America shed a few tears, collectively wiped at their eyes, then stood up and said: "Fuck you, we're still not letting you take our guns, you totalitarian bastards."

No wonder they're upset. Americans aren't falling for the emotional pornography anymore. Now they'll have no choice but to go for the brute force option and they know they aren't assured of winning that way. After all, there are a lot more of us than there are of them.

Molon labe.

Spikender
04-18-2013, 02:11 PM
Perhaps these "90%" and up statistics are true; after all, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of Americans each of these clowns knows supports this stupid crap.

As for us in the real world... I somehow think that number is a might lower.

jbauer
04-18-2013, 02:11 PM
Why can someone threaten Rand Paul with death but if someone said the same thing about "the guy" higher up the food chain they'd be in jail right now?

Czolgosz
04-18-2013, 02:12 PM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.


Those who are 'awake' still want to educate.

jbauer
04-18-2013, 02:13 PM
[QUOTE=Warrior_of_Freedom;4981916]Leftists claim gun owners are violent. They are just scared because the leftists themselves are violent. They're always the ones joking about killing somebody or whatever. They're the fucking dangerous ones, which is more of a reason to have a gun, so when they turn into a full-out commiezombie, well you know the rest..QUOTE]

Isn't that the truth. I'm not worried one bit about my rural neighbors if the SHTF. Its the people flocking from the cities that I worry about.

Spikender
04-18-2013, 02:14 PM
Why can someone threaten Rand Paul with death but if someone said the same thing about "the guy" higher up the food chain they'd be in jail right now?

Why are gun owners the violent ones when all the leftists are the ones threatening death upon us?

Why isn't it terrorism when we indiscriminately bomb and "liberate" other countries but it is when some Granny quotes the Constitution?

Why is it okay for a couple of cops to go crazy and shoot at a vehicle because they THINK a criminal is in it but if I shoot a single warning shot into the ground to scare a criminal off of my property I get my guns taken away from me?

We live in Topsy-turvey world, my friend, and you're just along for the ride.

QuickZ06
04-18-2013, 02:19 PM
So much stupid.

seraphson
04-18-2013, 02:21 PM
I get it.

They only approve of Democracy when their 51% of the vote wins.

KingNothing
04-18-2013, 02:22 PM
Yup, sure did.

Time to try it again.

Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.

JK/SEA
04-18-2013, 02:26 PM
Wil Wheaton aka Wesley Crusher StarTrek next gen. Didn't they have photon torpedoes and hand fazers?....

JK/SEA
04-18-2013, 02:28 PM
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awake
04-18-2013, 02:29 PM
You have offended their god - the state - and its "holy" begotten son Barack H Obama. They take it personal when you defeat thier great god of ignorance and violence.

Kodaddy
04-18-2013, 02:30 PM
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.

I believe he's talking about secession...you are the only one in this thread that mentioned civil war...

Lucille
04-18-2013, 02:37 PM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.

I think they won't let us secede peacefully because they know their statist utopia is doomed to fail and when it does, they won't have us to blame. Either that, or they just like to fight.

Acala
04-18-2013, 02:41 PM
I think they won't let us secede peacefully because they know their statist utopia is doomed to fail and when it does, they won't have us to blame. Either that, or they just like to fight.

They won't allow secession IF they have the resources to fight it. The Soviet Union was about the baddest thing going for decades but crumpled up and fell apart with out any war at all.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 02:43 PM
I get it.

They only approve of Democracy when their 51% of the vote wins.

Now you understand Comrade Citizen.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 02:46 PM
They won't allow secession IF they have the resources to fight it. The Soviet Union was about the baddest thing going for decades but crumpled up and fell apart with out any war at all.

A thousand time this!

+rep.

The system is broke, and tens of trillions of dollars in debt.

Its creditors are not going to fund a multi front civil war, not when dissolution is much more in their best interests.

It does not have the resources to fight a prolonged battle like that.

It is a mouse that is roaring.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 02:50 PM
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.

Stupid and insane is to continue down the path we are right now.

Besides, who said anything about civil war?

I'm talking about peaceful, non violent separation from a loathsome fascist government and the people who support it.

KingNothing
04-18-2013, 03:00 PM
Stupid and insane is to continue down the path we are right now.

Besides, who said anything about civil war?

I'm talking about peaceful, non violent separation from a loathsome fascist government and the people who support it.


Well, that part I agree with. Though, we already know where an attempt at separation will ultimately lead. Because of that, it will never be more than mental masturbation for bombastic patriots such as yourself.

enjerth
04-18-2013, 03:01 PM
Are there Hollywood exceptions in the gun bill?

Like, have any of these celebs, who may star in an action flick, suffered from any mental illness which would disqualify them from possessing a firearm on screen?

Is Hollywood going to be prohibited from obtaining >N round magazines for firefight sequences where they display the massive firepower of an endless magazine anyways?

Or do we allow the depiction of illegal firearms and illegal magazines in films and let them have a pass because they NEED it?

If I don't need it, I don't think Hollywood needs it, either. I don't think there should be any exceptions if they're clamoring for gun control.

And what about the stinkers coming out of Hollywood these days? Is there anything worth watching? Shouldn't there be laws to keep stupid crap out of theaters? We don't NEED your stinking entertainment.

Spikender
04-18-2013, 03:02 PM
Well, that part I agree with. Though, we already know where an attempt at separation will ultimately lead. Because of that, it will never be more than mental masturbation for bombastic patriots such as yourself.

Where do you think it will lead?

AuH20
04-18-2013, 03:05 PM
Well, that part I agree with. Though, we already know where an attempt at separation will ultimately lead. Because of that, it will never be more than mental masturbation for bombastic patriots such as yourself.

It is inevitable. One side wants to take and take, until the other side will have no other recourse. It is guaranteed to happen. There will be nothing glorious about it however.

kcchiefs6465
04-18-2013, 03:05 PM
Celebrities? I honestly have no idea who the hell 95% of those people are. I've heard of Jason Biggs. I would not know any of the others if I bumped into them at the store.

Trying to stay relevant it would seem.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2013, 03:07 PM
Well, that part I agree with. Though, we already know where an attempt at separation will ultimately lead. Because of that, it will never be more than mental masturbation for bombastic patriots such as yourself.

So, you are opposed to the idea?

Gotcha.

Moving on...

BuddyRey
04-18-2013, 03:07 PM
Dang, for some reason I always thought Wil Wheaton was a libertarian.

Ensign Crusher, I am disappoint.

AuH20
04-18-2013, 03:11 PM
Celebrities? I honestly have no idea who the hell 95% of those people are. I've heard of Jason Biggs. I would not know any of the others if I bumped into them at the store.

Trying to stay relevant it would seem.

AKA P@e F$%cker.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NgIiTwKtws

sluggo
04-18-2013, 03:18 PM
I'd be upset that Tawny Kitaen hates the 2nd Amendment if it were still 1984 and she was still hot.

Keith and stuff
04-18-2013, 03:20 PM
This is why having the STATES enact these stupid laws is good. It will help divide the country physically as well as politically. It is hard to break off a geographic area when the population is so mixed up. We need some interstate migration.

Many people agree with you. Around 10 years ago, the top liberty activists in the world took a vote on which 1 state to encourage people to move to in such a fashion.

thehungarian
04-18-2013, 03:25 PM
Jesus. That was like a reading version of Two Minutes Hate. Never ceases to amaze me how the people who advocate for this type of control for "safety" or whatever reason seem to be incredibly blood thirsty.

Aldanga
04-18-2013, 03:31 PM
Dang, for some reason I always thought Wil Wheaton was a libertarian.

Ensign Crusher, I am disappoint.
Far, far from it. He often goes on Twitter rants about statist policies not advancing.

Czolgosz
04-18-2013, 03:31 PM
I'd be upset that Tawny Kitaen hates the 2nd Amendment if it were still 1984 and she was still hot.

Werd.

paulbot24
04-18-2013, 03:34 PM
Celebrity hive mind just finds out about failed vote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZbGSXeWWE

Acala
04-18-2013, 04:05 PM
Many people agree with you. Around 10 years ago, the top liberty activists in the world took a vote on which 1 state to encourage people to move to in such a fashion.

I think the Free State Project is great.

NH doesn't work for me but others should absolutely consider it.

Lucille
04-18-2013, 04:08 PM
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.

He didn't say anything about war. And why don't you stop issuing directives all the time? You're always telling people what to think and say and do and what is and what isn't. What a nag!

It's irreconcilable and inevitable anyway. Better a peaceful, amicable divorce now than to go all War of the Roses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Roses_%28film%29) on each other later.

But I'm afraid I'll still be faced with a false f'n choice between economic statism and social statism (with police statism everywhere). Like AF always says...people don't want to be free. And they don't want to leave other people alone either. Americans are mostly bossy and nagging and controlling...like KN!


I think the Free State Project is great.

NH doesn't work for me but others should absolutely consider it.

Me either. We should start one in AZ. Now would be a good time too, what with all the draconian state level gun control being passed and pro-2nd residents screaming to other states to get their RIGHTS back.

ravedown
04-18-2013, 04:18 PM
Far, far from it. He often goes on Twitter rants about statist policies not advancing.

He's with star-fleet, they don't lie.

bolil
04-18-2013, 04:19 PM
Would you stop it? Advocating for civil war is irresponsible, stupid, and insane.

How exactly to you take support for secession as agitating for Civil War?

Ohhhh, and if they were the same thing why exactly were almost 100% of the battles fought on CSA territory?

Come and get them is how it goes, not coming to get you.

torchbearer
04-18-2013, 04:24 PM
Can we separate yet?

C'mon, this is ridiculous anymore.

There are two Amerikas now, totally divided, with no common ground or "compromise" possible.

Separate...let the "left" go and congregate in the one party ruled states, let us "freedom folks" go our way as well.

Leave them free to pursue their safety society or whatever the hell it is they want to do.


we'd go for that deal, but apparently, their interventionist sickness wouldn't allow other people the choice. they have to force everyone into their prison for it to maximize their overlords perks. you know, more slaves on the plantation and all.
if a free US were allow to exist next to their hell hole, everyone would eventually leave their stupid shit.

paulbot24
04-18-2013, 04:26 PM
We in the free US would just put sanctions on their hell hole to preserve our national security. /s :D

torchbearer
04-18-2013, 04:32 PM
We in the free US would just put sanctions on their hell hole to preserve our national security. /s :D in a free US... sad that it isn't a reality.

Czolgosz
04-18-2013, 04:34 PM
We in the free US would just put sanctions on their hell hole to preserve our national security. /s :D


Dripping with /s. lul

Bastiat's The Law
04-18-2013, 04:40 PM
It is inevitable. One side wants to take and take, until the other side will have no other recourse. It is guaranteed to happen. There will be nothing glorious about it however.
You, being a fan of Buchanan, it doesn't surprise me you believe wholeheartedly Balkanization.

Keith and stuff
04-18-2013, 06:31 PM
Me either. We should start one in AZ. Now would be a good time too, what with all the draconian state level gun control being passed and pro-2nd residents screaming to other states to get their RIGHTS back.

AZ was never even considered because the population is so large and there are so few liberty activists in the US.Considering how few movers there have been to the 2 projects, around 1100 in NH and maybe a 100 in WY, excluding AZ from the choices was 100% the right thing to do. It is also very good that WY lost to NH since it gets what looks like less than 1 mover for every 10 movers NH gets.

Acala
04-18-2013, 07:56 PM
AZ was never even considered because the population is so large and there are so few liberty activists in the US.Considering how few movers there have been to the 2 projects, around 1100 in NH and maybe a 100 in WY, excluding AZ from the choices was 100% the right thing to do. It is also very good that WY lost to NH since it gets what looks like less than 1 mover for every 10 movers NH gets.

I would agree with not choosing Arizona. Although it has some libertarian leanings (super gun laws AND moving in the right direction on pot, for example) it does have a large population. It also has some border issues that would complicate any secession movement.

But I think Idaho has NH beat.

Keith and stuff
04-18-2013, 08:43 PM
I would agree with not choosing Arizona. Although it has some libertarian leanings (super gun laws AND moving in the right direction on pot, for example) it does have a large population. It also has some border issues that would complicate any secession movement.

But I think Idaho has NH beat.
I see some good things about ID. I think it lost for a lot of reasons. It is to a large extent, owned by the federal government. It has a very large religious fanatic population. More than any other state, it has a reputation of white supremacist movers (something some FSPers wanted to stay far away from), the state is dry, it doesn't have any major cities and it only arguably near 1 major city. The lack of jobs. For example, with NH and DE, their are tons of jobs available in areas that are easy to commute to. Not so with ID. Also, people preferred the other 2 Mountain West states much more. I guess the other major downside is that it has both the largest populations of the 10 states that were considered, and the fastest growing population of the 10 states that were considered.

Looking back at it, obviously, pretty much everyone thought (at least up until this point) it was a bad choice. An organization started (by folks that split from the FSP after the which state vote) to encourage people to move to WY, MT and ID. It was called the Free West Alliance. Of the 3 state branches, the ID branch, if you could call it that, was the least active. In fact, I'd love to see evidence that even a single liberty activist moved to ID as part of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_West_Alliance

On the other hand, around 100 moved to WY (though, many of them aren't activists or even liberty folks as neither of those is a requirement for the WY project) as part of the project there and around 1100 moved to NH as part of the FSP. So clearly, up until this point, if you judge by just liberty activists moving, the FWA ID was a complete failure and ID isn't popular at all as a destination for liberty activists.

I know a guy in NH that says he knows of white supremacists that like some aspects of liberty that are moving to northern ID, so I guess ID has that going for it. The top expert that I know of in the Strategic Relocation business claims parts of ID are the best area in the US to move to as for as Strategic Relocation (nothing related to liberty) goes. Though, the same guy says that the Northern NH area and the parts of ME and VT that border it, are the best location in the Northeast for Strategic Relocation so NH does very well (though not as well as ID) in that area, also.

osan
04-18-2013, 08:49 PM
Bette Midler added a percentage point so I'm assuming we'll see 91% repeated soon.

Her ass alone is big enough to add 20 points.