Ron Paul's FP advisor passes along this NKorea film

[green73]

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Posted by Lew Rockwell on April 14, 2013 01:30 PM

Watch this interesting North Korean video on US psywar, especially the first 5 minutes. (Thanks to Daniel McAdams)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM

[talkingpointes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM

I have seen this video and believe all americans should watch it. It's so funny becuase 50%+ is things we say all the way up to the part of how GREAT the founding fathers are. They think America went astray.

[muh_roads]

So...North Korea...is good?

[pcosmar]

So...North Korea...is good?

Perhaps not as bad as you have been led to believe.

Regardless,, we should have never been involved there, certainly not for 60+ years.

[muh_roads]

Perhaps not as bad as you have been led to believe.

Regardless,, we should have never been involved there, certainly not for 60+ years.

Such a crazy world...I don't know what to believe anymore.

That video is spot on. Makes me wonder if the few North Korea "documentaries" that have have "snuck out" are true or not now...

[FrankRep]

So its like a propaganda video that exposes other propaganda yet pushes its own propaganda.

Got it.

...

Edit:

lol. The video is promoting an American "social revolution" (aka: Socialism/Communism).


I hope that Ron Paul supporters can see though this B.S.

[muh_roads]

So its like a propaganda video that exposes other propaganda yet pushes its own propaganda.

Got it.

That's exactly where I'm confused...lol

[FrankRep]

That's exactly where I'm confused...lol

The video is promoting an American "social revolution" (aka: Socialism/Communism) at the 4-5 minute mark.

[green73]

I hope that Ron Paul supporters can see though this B.S.

Me too. I'd hate to see the RP revolution turn communist.

[pcosmar]

That's exactly where I'm confused...lol


"If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Sift everything.
Keep the truth and discard the rest.

[FrankRep]

Sift everything.
Keep the truth and discard the rest.

The "rest" part is the entire reason for this video's existence.

[muh_roads]

Quick google search to see if they truly care about their people...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Democratic_People%27s_Republic _of_Korea

Central Bank exists? Check.

Pot calling the kettle black.

EDIT: or maybe it's a lie...lol

[pcosmar]

The "rest" part is the entire reason for this video's existence.

The rest is meant for the Korean people.

But suppose for a moment it is meant for us.
To what end?

The US is already a full blown socialist state,, with few and limited freedoms left. And those are rapidly disappearing.

For all your fear mongering about "communism" it has never and will never exist. Socialism is as close as it will ever get and we already have that,, as does most of the world.

Yes,, a "revolution" is coming.
It will be the minority of those that still wish to be free against the rest of the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeP5h-2KgEI

[FrankRep]

"I escaped a North Korean prison camp" - Shin Dong-hyuk's Survivor Story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfiHmOFY78)

Reason TV
Dec 2, 2012


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfiHmOFY78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvfiHmOFY78


Shin Dong-hyuk was born inside Kaechon #14, one of the world's harshest labor camps. His parents were political prisoners, declared enemies of the state for having committed minor offenses against the North Korean regime. Shin was routinely subjected to torture and knew nothing of the outside world until his escape at the age of 23.

Today he is on a mission to tell the world his story. And to remind us of the estimated 200,000 other forced laborers currently languishing under the regime of Kim Jong-un.


Escape from Camp 14: One Man's Remarkable Odyssey from North Korea to Freedom in the West (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0670023329/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0670023329)
- Blaine Harden, 2012

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wamc/files/styles/card_280/public/escape.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0670023329/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0670023329)

[green73]

LOL ^^^

[FrankRep]

For all your fear mongering about "communism" it has never and will never exist. Socialism is as close as it will ever get and we already have that,, as does most of the world.

Yes,, a "revolution" is coming.


pcosmar, if you haven't noticed, "communists" and "socialists" all practice Socialism. America has a few more steps to go before we're the new Soviet Union. If you complain about loss of freedom now, just wait until you're locked up in prison camps for speaking out against the government.

Yes, a revolution is coming and it's going to be a Bolshevik Revolution.

[CPUd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oULO3i5Xra0

[pcosmar]

pcosmar, if you haven't noticed, "communists" and "socialists" all practice Socialism. America has a few more steps to go before we're the new Soviet Union. If you complain about loss of freedom now, just wait until you're locked up in prison camps for speaking out against the government.

Yes, a revolution is coming and it's going to be a Bolshevik Revolution.

Communism does not exist outside of philosophical masturbation. The fear of "communism" has put more socialists in power than anything else.

Some of the very worst were the "Cold Warriors" that gave birth to Neo-conservatism.

If I am locked up again I expect it to be for my Faith.

[FrankRep]

Communism does not exist outside of philosophical masturbation. The fear of "communism" has put more socialists in power than anything else.

Some of the very worst were the "Cold Warriors" that gave birth to Neo-conservatism.


1.) Again, "Communists" and "Socialists" all practice Socialism. North Korea, China, Soviet Union, etc...

2.) Neoconservatives, like Neocon godfather Irving Kristol, were former Trotskyites (socialists). Don't blame the people supporting freedom for the rise of the Socialists.

[pcosmar]

1.) Again, "Communists" and "Socialists" all practice Socialism. North Korea, China, Soviet Union, etc...


Exactly my point. Communists don't exist. Socialists do.
Communism is a philosophical wet dream that can not possibly exist in the real world.
It is contrary to human nature.. We are not ants and are never going to act like them.

The fear of Communism has been putting Socialists and other Fascists in power since writings were published. (Like Hitler)
Communism Does not Exist.. only socialism does.
It is the ultimate Red Herring.

[DonovanJames]

What do you take from this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LovkrOC2lpk

[FrankRep]

Exactly my point. Communists don't exist. Socialists do.
Communism is a philosophical wet dream that can not possibly exist in the real world.
It is contrary to human nature.. We are not ants and are never going to act like them.

The fear of Communism has been putting Socialists and other Fascists in power since writings were published. (Like Hitler)
Communism Does not Exist.. only socialism does.
It is the ultimate Red Herring.

Don't forget that the ruling party in China is the "Communist Party of China" and Karl Marx's book is called the "Communist Manifesto."

[MRK]

So...North Korea...is good?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwfpldGWHo1qa4xmbo1_500.jpg

[sailingaway]

Me too. I'd hate to see the RP revolution turn communist.

I don't know if I can control myself.

Seems to me we ARE a social revolution and it doesn't have to be communist at all. Of course we may not be exactly what North Korea was hoping for.

[sailingaway]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwfpldGWHo1qa4xmbo1_500.jpg

Who photoshopped Heidi and the goats out?

[Origanalist]

Who photoshopped Heidi and the goats out?

Dear Leader fed them to the troops.

[MRK]

Dear Leader fed them to the troops.

But only after cutting off his left hand and left foot to spare the goats from bearing the burden of feeding the troops all by themselves.

[Origanalist]

But only after cutting off his left hand and left foot to spare the goats from bearing the burden of feeding the troops all by themselves.

Even Dear Leader must sacrifice for the state. What a shining example.

[supermario21]

North Korea is a ruthless police state, run by an agitator who is successful in that he makes neocons fear him...Why? Who knows...

[Origanalist]

North Korea is a ruthless police state, run by an agitator who is successful in that he makes neocons fear him...Why? Who knows...

Every Superman needs a villian.

[COpatriot]

That has to be the worst place in the world to live. I feel so bad for those people.

[ClydeCoulter]

How many of you actually watched the whole thing? I did, and it was pretty spot on. I would like to have seen the end of it, it cut off at the end of this version.
Whatever you think of N. Korea, what do you think of the content of the video? That's what the OP is about. How easily threads get derailed.

[FrankRep]

How many of you actually watched the whole thing? I did, and it was pretty spot on. I would like to have seen the end of it, it cut off at the end of this version.
Whatever you think of N. Korea, what do you think of the content of the video? That's what the OP is about. How easily threads get derailed.

I'll be impressed when the people of North Korea kick out their socialist dictator and install a more liberty oriented government system.

[thoughtomator]

That has to be the worst place in the world to live. I feel so bad for those people.

According to the propaganda, anyway.

The reality is you have no idea what life is like there, nor do I, nor does pretty much anyone else in the West. I'm pretty sure it's not quite as bad as the anti-NK propaganda portrays it to be.

[Anti-Neocon]

The video is promoting an American "social revolution" (aka: Socialism/Communism) at the 4-5 minute mark.
Hi Allen West.

[green73]

How many of you actually watched the whole thing? I did, and it was pretty spot on. I would like to have seen the end of it, it cut off at the end of this version.
Whatever you think of N. Korea, what do you think of the content of the video? That's what the OP is about. How easily threads get derailed.

Thank you.

[Constitutional Paulicy]

How many of you actually watched the whole thing? I did, and it was pretty spot on. I would like to have seen the end of it, it cut off at the end of this version.
Whatever you think of N. Korea, what do you think of the content of the video? That's what the OP is about. How easily threads get derailed.

I was thinking the same thing.

This is the second time I've watched it. I honestly believe that the liberty movement was hijacked by N. Korea's propaganda agenda and our main talking points are being used to further their agenda. Most everything with the exception of the narrators portrayal of N.Korea was accurate. Their was some distortion of facts.

It's easy to see the vast bulk of the content and ideas were derived from a variety of documentaries and films we in the west have produced about ourselves. The so called research this man claims to have done is merely a compilation of plagiarism.

The only reason they have this sort of insight to our culture is that we are an open society which is free to criticize itself publicly. While the N. Korean government imprisons any form of criticism and is often punishable by death. We are at least confronting our inner demons. Now if we could just right the wrongs we have so easily laid out for them to criticize us for, we could then be less hypocritical in our criticism of them. For them to criticize us is ludicrous.

[pcosmar]

I'll be impressed when the people of North Korea kick out their socialist dictator and install a more liberty oriented government system.
I would be impressed is the American people would do that.

But that would take a revolution,, and freedom minded folk are a small minority.

[LibertyEagle]

Exactly my point. Communists don't exist. Socialists do.
Communism is a philosophical wet dream that can not possibly exist in the real world.
It is contrary to human nature.. We are not ants and are never going to act like them.

The fear of Communism has been putting Socialists and other Fascists in power since writings were published. (Like Hitler)
Communism Does not Exist.. only socialism does.
It is the ultimate Red Herring.

Why are you being so obtuse? What is being called communism is socialism on steroids. We don't want either.

The only people who really need to care to distinguish between communism and socialism are communists and socialists. We are neither.

[LibertyEagle]

I don't know if I can control myself.

Seems to me we ARE a social revolution and it doesn't have to be communist at all. Of course we may not be exactly what North Korea was hoping for.

Uh.... no, we most certainly are not a social revolution. WTF!

[pcosmar]

Why are you being so obtuse? What is being called communism is socialism on steroids. We don't want either.

The only people who really need to care to distinguish between communism and socialism are communists and socialists. We are neither.

Not obtuse at all. Communism simply does not exist, can not and will never exist. Period. END of story.

Socialism does exist.. It is currently the Rule rather than exception world wide.

The US is a socialist country and has been for over 100 years. and the thinly veiled veneer of a "Free republic" is nothing but propaganda.

All this "Our" socialism is better than "their" socialism is bullshit,, and just keeps pointless wars going. It feeds the machine.

[FrankRep]

I don't know if I can control myself.

Seems to me we ARE a social revolution and it doesn't have to be communist at all. Of course we may not be exactly what North Korea was hoping for.

The Progressive movement is leading this Social Revolution. The Progressives, if you haven't noticed yet, like bigger government, more taxes, and more distribution of wealth.

In other words, they sound pretty damn Socialist to me.


Nikkita Khrushchev: (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?299487-%281966%29-Shocking-Statement-From-Ezra-Taft-Benson-former-Secretary-of-Agriculture)



'You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright, but we'll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you'll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won't have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.' "


Don't be gullible.

[FrankRep]

Not obtuse at all. Communism simply does not exist, can not and will never exist. Period. END of story.

Socialism does exist.. It is currently the Rule rather than exception world wide.

The US is a socialist country and has been for over 100 years. and the thinly veiled veneer of a "Free republic" is nothing but propaganda.

All this "Our" socialism is better than "their" socialism is bullshit,, and just keeps pointless wars going. It feeds the machine.

Yet there are people and political parties in this world that call themselves "Communists" or secretly want communism and read the Communist manifesto.

I think your attacks on anti-Communists and anti-Socialists are counter-productive, destructive, and down right silly.

[pcosmar]

Yet there are people and political parties in this world that call themselves "Communists" or secretly want communism and read the Communist manifesto.

I think your attacks on anti-Communists and anti-Socialists are counter-productive, destructive, and down right silly.
I don't care what they want. I don't care what they call themselves. It is never going to happen.
You will never turn all humans into mindless drones. Communism will NEVER exist because it is totally contrary to human nature.
We are not ants and will never be made to act like it.
Social Controllers have been attempting to enforce conformity for years,, and fail repeatedly.

Fearing something that does not exist is silly.

"Oh look,, the boogieman!" /sarc

[LibertyEagle]

I don't care what they want. It is never going to happen.
You will never turn all humans into mindless drones. Communism will NEVER exist because it is totally contrary to human nature.
We are not ants and will never be made to act like it.
Social Controllers have been attempting to enforce conformity for years,, and fail repeatedly.

Fearing something that does not exist is silly.

"Oh look,, the boogieman!" /sarc

What you are not getting is that there are a number of people who deliriously WANT what used to exist in the USSR. I don't give a damn what you call it. Split hairs if you want. THEY called it Communism and I want none of it. Unfortunately, there have been enough idiots in our own country that we have been allowing it to creep in for years. It's getting worse and worse. But, for you to compare the country we grew up in with the Soviet Union, I beg to disagree with you.

Boogieman? You are damn straight! There are people that want our country overthrown and it has almost been done right before our very eyes. If more people had been fighting against it instead of saying "Oh look, the boogieman!", maybe we could have stopped it before it got this bad.

[pcosmar]

:rolleyes:

Our country has been socialist since the early 1900s. Certainly well entrenched my entire life (born 1957).

Splitting hairs over what some other country calls their version of socialism is silly,, especially when it is used to feed the machine and remove more of our few remaining freedoms here.

I will applaud any that stand up to the "superpowers" (regardless of the futility)
I am most impressed with the free people of Afghanistan,,
They have fought off both Russian and US military forces to live as they choose.
God bless them.

[jmdrake]

Don't forget that the ruling party in China is the "Communist Party of China" and Karl Marx's book is called the "Communist Manifesto."

And George W. Bush was a "republican" president. Is America still a republic?

[jmdrake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0mwCtzv9PM

I would LOL if a bunch of North Korean young people saw this documentary, thought to themselves "Yeah. Propaganda is wrong. And it's happening in this country too." and then rebelled against Kim Jong Un.

[jmdrake]

The rest is meant for the Korean people.

But suppose for a moment it is meant for us.
To what end?

The US is already a full blown socialist state,, with few and limited freedoms left. And those are rapidly disappearing.

For all your fear mongering about "communism" it has never and will never exist. Socialism is as close as it will ever get and we already have that,, as does most of the world.

Yes,, a "revolution" is coming.
It will be the minority of those that still wish to be free against the rest of the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeP5h-2KgEI

Very good documentary! I look foward to their work.

[Anti Federalist]

It's getting worse and worse. But, for you to compare the country we grew up in with the Soviet Union, I beg to disagree with you.

I suggest you look around, closely.

In many ways, certainly in the realm of surveillance and government keeping tabs on everybody, we are WORSE than the old USSR.

The Chi-Com dangnan system has got nothing on the US surveillance grid in 2013.