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jct74
04-11-2013, 02:47 PM
Rand said on NPR today he was invited to speak there tomorrow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_bXqO9aPs4&t=1m18s

bbjaylive
04-11-2013, 03:02 PM
Hopefully he doesn't pull the same 'wool over the eyes' crap that he did at Howard.

tsai3904
04-11-2013, 03:07 PM
Rand is giving a speech to college students tomorrow in Louisville about 2 miles from the college. Not sure if its the same event.

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=79c6a792072d95d71b29913dc&id=ad76905df7


Come Stand With Rand!

What: U.S. Senator Rand Paul invites you to join him for a "Stand With Rand" College Hour

When: Friday, April 12th, from 3-4pm

Where: Louisville Marriott Downtown, in the 2nd floor "Marriott Ballroom"
280 West Jefferson Street, Louisville, KY 40202
Parking is available in the Hotel Garage

Cost: Free to college students (MUST show your college ID to get in free!)

Come early, so you won't miss any of this exclusive time with Senator Paul.
Don't forget your camera!

RSVP: Please email Whitney Meadows at whitneysmeadows @ hotmail.com

jmdrake
04-11-2013, 03:15 PM
That shows the man has no fear, which is a good thing. Hopefully he's learned the lesson "Don't ask question you don't already know the answer to" like "Did you know the founders of the NAACP were republican?" Or if you ask such a question, do it in such a way that no matter how the question is answered you come off looking good.

Example : "Can someone tell me which president first implemented set asides for minorities?"

If someone answers "Richard Nixon." then say "That's exactly right." If there's no answer, or if someone says JFK or LBJ answer "Actually it was republican Richard Nixon."

Then follow up with "While I'm not in favor of any preference for any group over another, isn't it interesting to note that it was a post civil rights era republican that instituted federal affirmative action?"

Or....he could skip talking about Civil Rights altogether and instead talk about abuses under the GWOT and how Wall Street bailouts were sellouts of mainstreet and why we should all be concerned about borrowing money from China.

bbjaylive
04-11-2013, 03:20 PM
borrowing money from China.

What?

The US isn't borrowing money from China. China is just holding US Treasury bonds that will mature in time. China isn't going to do anything else with those dollars so they're just storing them in a savings account at the Fed.

BSU kid
04-11-2013, 03:36 PM
Hopefully he learned from his Howard visit, and hopefully the audience is open.

Barrex
04-11-2013, 03:50 PM
I read that speech and I thought it was good... I also watched few q&a and it looked good too.
Some people got impossible standards I guess. Just by going there he is in better position than any other republican... maybe politician...

klamath
04-11-2013, 04:32 PM
A republican can't get much worse on getting black votes so Rand can only gain from these speeches.

eleganz
04-11-2013, 04:41 PM
He's going into these 'territories' because he knows what he believes in and firmly stands up for those beliefs, like his father.

That is the difference between him and Rubio. Principle vs Plastic Man.

compromise
04-11-2013, 05:23 PM
He's going into these 'territories' because he knows what he believes in and firmly stands up for those beliefs, like his father.

That is the difference between him and Rubio. Principle vs Plastic Man.

Rubio is also trying to appeal to this demographic. Mainly by discussing 2Pac, NWA and Africa Bambataa during interviews and quoting Wiz Khalifa and Jay-Z during filibusters. He's a total joke.

He succeeds in coming off as silly to everyone, a stereotyper to blacks and offensive to white social conservatives.

Inkblots
04-11-2013, 06:11 PM
The US isn't borrowing money from China. China is just holding US Treasury bonds that will mature in time. China isn't going to do anything else with those dollars so they're just storing them in a savings account at the Fed.

Um, bb, there's a word for taking money from someone in exchange for a piece of paper ("bond") that says you'll pay them back the money plus interest later ("will mature in time"). That word is "borrowing".

Can I take it you're a product of the public education system, my friend?

bbjaylive
04-11-2013, 06:29 PM
I read that speech and I thought it was good... I also watched few q&a and it looked good too.
Some people got impossible standards I guess. Just by going there he is in better position than any other republican... maybe politician...

This is just laughable.

So it's setting impossible standards to expect a politician to know what happened to the two major parties post 1964 and why it happened?

Bruno
04-11-2013, 06:34 PM
This is just laughable.

So it's setting impossible standards to expect a politician to know what happened to the two major parties post 1964 and why it happened?

No, he said simply by going there he did so.

bbjaylive
04-11-2013, 06:37 PM
No, he said simply by going there he did so.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.


Um, bb, there's a word for taking money from someone in exchange for a piece of paper ("bond") that says you'll pay them back the money plus interest later ("will mature in time"). That word is "borrowing".

Can I take it you're a product of the public education system, my friend?

A country that issues its own currency does not have to borrow in its own currency. If no one bought the bonds, then the Fed would buy them, as it's been doing which is effectively just financing the government. The US government doesn't even need the Fed to buy the issued bonds. It could direct the Fed to print up as much money as it needed.

Also saying that the US borrows from China, brings up these false notions that the US is somehow subservient to China, or that China is the US's banker or that the US is dependent on China. The US doesn't need China to keep on financing its government.

Bruno
04-11-2013, 06:40 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

Well neither did yours with his.

bbjaylive
04-11-2013, 06:43 PM
Well neither did yours with his.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Read my post. I was mocking his notion that it's setting impossible standards for Rand not to skip US political history from 1964 to the present day.

Bruno
04-11-2013, 06:49 PM
You don't know what you're talking about.

Read my post. I was mocking his notion that it's setting impossible standards for Rand not to skip US political history from 1964 to the present day.

Which Barrex never said.

See, I will do the same thing:

This is laughable. So it is setting impossible standards to expect Rand to eat a banana every day?

Brett85
04-11-2013, 06:52 PM
I hope Rand doesn't talk about the history of the Republican Party and blacks this time and simply talks about his philosophy.

VanBummel
04-11-2013, 06:57 PM
Rubio is also trying to appeal to this demographic. Mainly by discussing 2Pac, NWA and Africa Bambataa during interviews and quoting Wiz Khalifa and Jay-Z during filibusters. He's a total joke.

Worked for this guy...twice!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqy91GnS-Bg

:D

BlackTerrel
04-11-2013, 06:58 PM
Good for him. Rand is doing good work and it will pay dividends in time.

misean
04-11-2013, 07:36 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.



A country that issues its own currency does not have to borrow in its own currency. If no one bought the bonds, then the Fed would buy them, as it's been doing which is effectively just financing the government. The US government doesn't even need the Fed to buy the issued bonds. It could direct the Fed to print up as much money as it needed.

Also saying that the US borrows from China, brings up these false notions that the US is somehow subservient to China, or that China is the US's banker or that the US is dependent on China. The US doesn't need China to keep on financing its government.

I think Rand should lose the borrowing from China stuff as well as the need for a balanced budget. His explanation on both is wrong and bad.

Though when the Fed buys bonds, it's inflationary. When non-government entities and foreign governments buy bonds it's not inflationary.

I would add that the standard you are holding him to is pretty high. That was the first speech he's ever given to that type of audience. I thought it was great and he came well prepared. The guy isn't superman and if he didn't connect with that audience he'll learn from it and correct. And as far as explaining economics, he might not be perfect but he is better at articulating concepts than any politician that I have heard in my lifetime.

phill4paul
04-11-2013, 07:57 PM
Rand Paul needs to hire GunnyFreedom. Yesterday.

Barrex
04-12-2013, 04:34 AM
I read that speech and I thought it was good... I also watched few q&a and it looked good too.
Some people got impossible standards I guess. Just by going there he is in better position than any other republican... maybe politician...

This is just laughable.
So it's setting impossible standards to expect a politician to know what happened to the two major parties post 1964 and why it happened?


No, he said simply by going there he did so.


This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.


Well neither did yours with his.


You don't know what you're talking about.
Read my post. I was mocking his notion that it's setting impossible standards for Rand not to skip US political history from 1964 to the present day.


Which Barrex never said.
See, I will do the same thing:

This is laughable. So it is setting impossible standards to expect Rand to eat a banana every day?



ROFLMAO...:toady:

So I am laughable? So you are mocking me?

Well I fart in your general direction....


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ybq_peitNZA/T_1tFOmbmEI/AAAAAAAAA_Q/WnZnfirgqcI/s400/funny-celebrity-pictures-doctor-who-dressed-as-the-joker.jpg

I win. My sidekick Bruno takes second place. You lose. GAME OVER.

kathy88
04-12-2013, 04:46 AM
ROFL @ farting in general direction

Classic Python

KingNothing
04-12-2013, 04:50 AM
Anyone who thinks his speech at Howard was bad should actually watch it, instead of Rachel Maddow.

tsai3904
04-12-2013, 09:44 AM
Twitter report on Rand's speech from @joearnoldreport. I replaced all the @SenRandPaul with just Rand to make it easier to read.


At Simmons College, Rand speaks at oldest black college in Ky. Former slaves were taught in this building

Rand & @KWCosby (Simmons College President). Paul requested to speak at historic black college in Louisville

At Simmons College, Rand points out criticism of his Howard U speech. Says he's not lecturing blacks on black history,wider audience

Rand talks history, Louisville. Dem @courierjournal publisher Watterson opposed to blacks voting @SCKY_1879

"I'm trying to figure out how to get more votes. ..Republican Party will not be national party" w/o black, latinos - Rand @SCKY_1879

.@KWCosby asks Rand to clarify previous concerns (2010 race) about Civil Rights Act,Paul says he was never opposed to results of law

At @SCKY_1879, Rand says he was treated unfairly, views on constitutionally of Civil Rights Act misrepresented in 2010 race

At @SCKY_1879 Simmons College President @KWCosby leads conversation w Rand - audience now commenting

Asked about how his budget affects Pell Grants, Rand says he's all for them if they can be paid for in balanced budget. @SCKY_1879

Reagan made mistake to link "welfare queen" label to blacks. Corporate welfare also bad - Rand at @SCKY_1879 Simmons College

Rand says he supports putting 20 best jcps teachers and putting them in worst schools. Also supports more pay for better teachers.

Republican party gave up on black vote. "I'm not giving up" but uphill battle. "I'm your senator too" - Rand at black Simmons Coll.

Asked about #ACA, Rand says supports access to health care, but wants competition model not gov't model. & all should pay something

At historic black Simmons College Rand argues for Coolidge/Reagan tax cuts to grow jobs. @SCKY_1879

Double JCPS superintendent's power, give more autonomy for better results - Rand at @SCKY_1879 #Louisville

Prevailing wage laws help white contractors, not minority workers, make schools too expensive to build - Rand at @SCKY_1879

Non-Simmons College student lambastes Rand for budget talk, gets upset, curses and escorted from building. @KWCosby apologizes


Report from one of the professors there @DeVoneHolt


One of the major priorities Rand believes blacks should address is the public school system.

"No one is going to listen to me unless they think I care." Rand which explains why the senator is speaking to my students today

Rich CEOs could be considered welfare queens too according to Rand speaking to students at @SCKY_1879

Paying good teachers well and getting rid of poor performing teachers is a way to fix public education according to Rand

According to Rand Republicans must court black voters if the party is to survive. Changing natl demographics demand it @KWCosby

Rand tells my students at Simmons today, "I'm your senator too" to explain his visit & says he wants our vote.

Rand tells my students he thinks charter schools are something black people should embrace. @SCKY_1879 @KWCosby

It was appropriate that Rand ask to end his time with my students today with a prayer. Great dialogue & will have him back again

Rand asked me to gather a group of west Louisville business leaders for a dialogue. Any takers? He wants to get your ideas


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supermario21
04-12-2013, 10:03 AM
Wow, seems as if Rand's outreach is really going well.

Bastiat's The Law
04-12-2013, 11:25 AM
This is a beginning. You don't see Reince Priebus doing this sort of stuff. Kudos to Rand.

LatinsforPaul
04-12-2013, 11:34 AM
If Rand does this at least on a monthly basis, the "there goes the racist talking to blacks and Hispanics again" meme from the MSM will end real soon.

jbauer
04-12-2013, 12:28 PM
What?

The US isn't borrowing money from China. China is just holding US Treasury bonds that will mature in time. China isn't going to do anything else with those dollars so they're just storing them in a savings account at the Fed.

Ding ding. The Chinese hold about $4T in our government debt. The Fed has been buying up all the extra for quite some time.

bbjaylive
04-12-2013, 12:41 PM
Ding ding. The Chinese hold about $4T in our government debt. The Fed has been buying up all the extra for quite some time.

That number is an exaggeration.

China holds about $1.2T.

TXcarlosTX
04-12-2013, 12:48 PM
any video of the event?

tsai3904
04-12-2013, 12:52 PM
From an article on this event:


"He’s definitely going to continue this conversation – and looks forward to visiting other HBCUs," says Paul's communications director, Moira Bagley.

HBCU = historically black colleges and universities

Bastiat's The Law
04-12-2013, 01:00 PM
If Rand does this at least on a monthly basis, the "there goes the racist talking to blacks and Hispanics again" meme from the MSM will end real soon.
Tough to sell that meme after Rand goes around the country speaking with people the GOP has previously ignored.

Bastiat's The Law
04-12-2013, 01:00 PM
any video of the event?

I'd like to see video as well.

supermario21
04-12-2013, 02:11 PM
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid97471452001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAABvb_erE~,dDIpI6jUI 3ROSZRAumKTdypAc2rv2OWh&bclid=44969820001&bctid=2296809771001


Here is some video from the Courier Journal. I like the roundtable setting, kind of avoids that "I'm lecturing down to you" stereotype.

July
04-12-2013, 02:26 PM
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid97471452001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAABvb_erE~,dDIpI6jUI 3ROSZRAumKTdypAc2rv2OWh&bclid=44969820001&bctid=2296809771001


Here is some video from the Courier Journal. I like the roundtable setting, kind of avoids that "I'm lecturing down to you" stereotype.

Good clip. I agree, I like the round table better as well.

jmdrake
04-12-2013, 02:30 PM
This has absolutely nothing to do with my post.



A country that issues its own currency does not have to borrow in its own currency. If no one bought the bonds, then the Fed would buy them, as it's been doing which is effectively just financing the government. The US government doesn't even need the Fed to buy the issued bonds. It could direct the Fed to print up as much money as it needed.

Also saying that the US borrows from China, brings up these false notions that the US is somehow subservient to China, or that China is the US's banker or that the US is dependent on China. The US doesn't need China to keep on financing its government.

Whatever you want to call it, we're paying interest on the national debt. $104 billion last year.

kcchiefs6465
04-12-2013, 02:41 PM
Whatever you want to call it, we're paying interest on the national debt. $104 billion last year.
Didn't you know, we pay ourselves interest. :rolleyes:

Inkblots
04-12-2013, 03:09 PM
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid97471452001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAABvb_erE~,dDIpI6jUI 3ROSZRAumKTdypAc2rv2OWh&bclid=44969820001&bctid=2296809771001


Here is some video from the Courier Journal. I like the roundtable setting, kind of avoids that "I'm lecturing down to you" stereotype.

Great clip. It did sound like Rand performed well in the slightly more casual format, getting to banter back and forth with Dr. Cosby. Hopefully the entire video will be available soon.

My favorite part was the very end where they interviewed a student and she said Rand Paul in person was totally different than she had seen him portrayed in the media, and that he really seemed to care about her community. That made me smile -- that's what we need to do!

FSP-Rebel
04-12-2013, 03:20 PM
My favorite part was the very end where they interviewed a student and she said Rand Paul in person was totally different than she had seen him portrayed in the media, and that he really seemed to care about her community. That made me smile -- that's what we need to do!
Yep, Rand is bypassing Maddow and co and taking it right to the greater minority community first hand. That's a true leader and shows a lot of class as well.

Bastiat's The Law
04-12-2013, 04:42 PM
Yep, Rand is bypassing Maddow and co and taking it right to the greater minority community first hand. That's a true leader and shows a lot of class as well.
It's brilliant taking his message straight to the people and watching the liberal media freak out over it. It will also pay dividends later when the liberal media attempts to paint Rand as a blood-drinking, evil incarnate, Republican. People that heard him and seen him face to face will hesitate and say, "Wait a second, that's not the man I met."

Brett85
04-12-2013, 05:45 PM
I don't like the Pell Grants talk, as it's an unconstitutional program. But I guess Rand just feels like he wouldn't be electable if he ran as a hardcore Constitutionalist or libertarian.