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Anti Federalist
04-09-2013, 04:40 PM
Gun Death, Part 2

Posted by Walter Block on April 9, 2013 02:12 PM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/135171.html

A few days ago, I blogged this: Block, Walter E. 2013. “New York Times on gun deaths.” April 6.

I got some very interesting material from a reader of the LewRockwell blog (Roy Lieberman) that I would now like to share with this list:

That NYT figure of 30,000 gun deaths is exaggerated because it lumps in suicides (19,766) which comprise the vast majority of those deaths. If guns weren't available at all, they'd stick their head in the oven and turn on the gas, or slit their wrists with a razor or find another method. Guns are merely another tool, and shouldn't be held responsible because they don't point it at someone and pull the trigger themselves.

The most important figure is the actual number of murders for 2011, and the FBI's own Uniform Crime Statistics show there was a 20-year low of only 8,583 murders (6,220 from handguns; only 323 by any type of rifle including "assault rifles") in 2011 in the world's third-most populated nation of 311.6 million.

Meanwhile, the firearm murder rate drops again to only 2.75 per 100,000; handguns are at 2.0.

There are higher murder rates in Argentina (3.0), Zimbabwe (4.8), Phillipines (8.9), Mexico (10.0), Bahamas (15.4), Dominican Republic (16.3), South Africa (17.0), Brazil (18.1), Puerto Rico (18.3), a staggering 39.0 in Venezuela, Jamaica (39.4), El Salvador (39.9), and Honduras (68.4).

So, the next time some ignoramus wants to portray the U.S. as the most violent nation in the world because of its "gun culture," give them those other countries' much higher murder rates.

And nevermind the murder rate in Chicago (and in the District of Criminals/Corruption) with 506 murders (2012) all by itself (18.69 per 100,000) with a population of 2,707,120 with some of the strictest gun laws anywhere.

Of course, the anti-gun loonies want to lump-in Accidental discharge (851) [utopia is not an option!], and anything else they can add to make their case that guns need to go.

The CDC reported 11,101 murders in 2011, but the FBIs compiled crime murder numbers is the aforementioned 8,583 so someone is exaggerating. I'll bet everything the CDC is the guilty one.

ghengis86
04-09-2013, 04:41 PM
Yeah, facts are funny like that. Now all those gun grabbers can politely fuck off

Anti Federalist
04-09-2013, 04:49 PM
SKorea violent crime rate ‘at least twice as high as US’

By Nathan Schwartzman Jul 12, 2012 1:07PM UTC

http://asiancorrespondent.com/85740/skorean-violent-crime-rate-exceeds-united-states/

The number of violent crimes in our country is now at least double the number in the United States and 12 times the number in Japan, a study has found.

Park Dong-gyun, chairman of the Korean Association for Public Security Administration (한국치안행정학회), said in a conference at the National Police Agency’s great hall that “in 2010 there were 609.2 violent crimes per 10,000 people in our country, significantly more than the figures of 252.3 in the United States and 50.4 in Japan.”

Chairman Park said that “this is the result of the interaction of social factors in our country such as the relatively tolerated drinking [culture] involved in a high number of violent crimes as well as the indulgence of ordinary violent acts… this environment creates a cycle of violence and impedes our development into an advanced nation.”

Jang Jun-oh, chairman of the Korea Criminological Institute (대한범죄학회), said that “from a random sample of 401 murders committed in the 13 years from from 1990 through 2002, we found that 40.9% of the assailants had prior convictions for violent crimes… we need to raise awareness of the possibility that ordinary violence can lead to more serious crimes.”

Kim Gi-yong, head of the NPA, said that “we plan to begin cracking down seriously on five types of violence: organized crime violence, violence involving intoxication, violence involving extortion, sexual violence, and school violence.

Zippyjuan
04-09-2013, 04:58 PM
US is #8 in firearm homicide deaths per 100,000 people.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_hom_fir_hom_rat_per_100_pop-rate-per-100-000-pop

Top Ten:

1 South Africa: 74.5748
Crime in South Africa

# 2 Colombia: 51.7683
Crime in Colombia

# 3 Thailand: 33.0016
Crime in Thailand

# 4 Guatemala: 18.5
Crime in Guatemala

# 5 Paraguay: 7.3508
Crime in Paraguay

# 6 Zimbabwe: 4.746
Crime in Zimbabwe

# 7 Mexico: 3.6622
Crime in Mexico

# 8 United States: 3.6
Crime in United States

# 9 Belarus: 3.31
Crime in Belarus

# 10 Barbados: 2.9963