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z9000
04-07-2013, 09:09 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/libertarianism-89697.html?hp=t1

Good article by POLITICO, mentions Ron and Rand many times.

FSP-Rebel
04-07-2013, 09:36 AM
Surprisingly great article from Politico, but my favorite part comes at the end>>
Liberty for All is a Super PAC co-founded by a millionaire in his early 20s who helped freshman Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) win an upset in his primary last year with a huge infusion of cash. The founder, John Ramsey, plans to invest heavily during the 2014 cycle in state legislative races – especially in places that vote early during the presidential nominating season. The idea is to build a bench and a network to boost other libertarian candidates down the road.

“Let them get their feet wet,” Ramsey said. “It makes a lot of sense to allow them to gain some traction early rather than just try to run for a big office right out of the box.”

Occam's Banana
04-07-2013, 09:57 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/libertarianism-89697.html?hp=t1

Good article by POLITICO, mentions Ron and Rand many times.

Caution: "quixotic" ahead ...

jtstellar
04-07-2013, 09:58 AM
again starting with the subtle jabs.. does it ever get old for them? i wonder how old these writers are.. these people are like the same kind that fight each other in high school over who's coolest, and that mindset somehow lasted to adulthood. the jabs at the start of the article amounts little more than 'this guy used to be uncool', amazingly juvenile. liberalism really is a disease

KrokHead
04-07-2013, 10:15 AM
You can't win without mainstream, but mainstream risks hijacking. i.e. Tea Party

Hopefully people are down with fiscally conservative platforms against and are willing to pay the costs to slowly reverse the damage.

MRK
04-07-2013, 10:58 AM
Steve Schmidt, John McCain’s senior strategist in 2008, said libertarians were always one of the important pillars of the party but the balance within the coalition got out of whack when President George W. Bush signed an act of Congress intervening in a custody dispute aimed at keeping Terri Schiavo alive despite being in a persistent vegetative state.
“This is a manifestation of big government conservatism that a lot of people are uncomfortable with in the Republican Party."

WOW, What a massive, misleading strawman argument this is. The libertarian wing dissociated itself with Bush because of... Terri Schiavo?! LOL

Occam's Banana
04-07-2013, 11:44 AM
WOW, What a massive, misleading strawman argument this is. The libertarian wing dissociated itself with Bush because of... Terri Schiavo?! LOL

I raised my eyebrows & got a good chuckle out of that one, too. It's amusing watching the spin machine churn & whirl ...

VoteRandPaul2016
04-07-2013, 12:57 PM
I pray to God that our movement does not get compromised by a bunch of fakes like the Tea Party was.

itshappening
04-07-2013, 01:04 PM
Bear in mind that POLITICO is a tool of the establishment. I wonder who funds it? How do they make money?

They have an interest in belittling us and re-writing history (i.e Schiavo) but now they can't ignore us unlike in 2007

heavenlyboy34
04-07-2013, 01:18 PM
again starting with the subtle jabs.. does it ever get old for them? i wonder how old these writers are.. these people are like the same kind that fight each other in high school over who's coolest, and that mindset somehow lasted to adulthood. the jabs at the start of the article amounts little more than 'this guy used to be uncool', amazingly juvenile. liberalism really is a disease Meh, you'll find juvenile behavior comes with all statist philosophies-conservatism, left-liberalism, socialism, fascism, etc, etc.

itshappening
04-07-2013, 01:31 PM
Meh, you'll find juvenile behavior comes with all statist philosophies-conservatism, left-liberalism, socialism, fascism, etc, etc.

Ever been to FreeRepublic?

heavenlyboy34
04-07-2013, 01:34 PM
Ever been to FreeRepublic?
No.

MRK
04-07-2013, 02:03 PM
Libertarianism Goes Mainstream

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif

itshappening
04-07-2013, 02:07 PM
Libertarianism Goes Mainstream

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif

It sure was a clever and visionary choice of nickname to use back then.

MRK
04-07-2013, 03:59 PM
It sure was a clever and visionary choice of nickname to use back then.

I am so happy someone made this gif haha

supermario21
04-07-2013, 04:13 PM
Lew Rockwell has responded to the piece.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/135254.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed


As an establishment site, Politico has always hated and feared Ron Paul. Here is their latest attack, within the context of a broader article. First, they associate Ron with traditional libertarianism, which they describe as "pro-pot, pro-porn, pro-pacifist." Needless to say, Ron has never used pot nor porn, but he does believe in the individual's right to decide what goes into his mind and into his body. The state seeks control over both, of course. Nor is Ron a pacifist--an ancient charge against those who oppose constant war. He believes in the right to self-defense, but he does not believe in the initiation of violence, whether by private criminals or the state. The state has recently taken more than a million lives in its imperialist anti-Muslim wars. Ron Paul has opposed them with all his heart and soul. He is a man of peace and the golden rule, in his private life and his policy.

Next, Politico tells us that "Ron Paul epitomized to a swath of voters the caricature of a goofy grandpa who invests in gold, stockpiles guns, sees black helicopters whirling overhead and quotes Friedrich Hayek." Of course, Ron Paul is the most ungoofy guy you could know. He is thoughtful, careful, serious, well read, eloquent, an important public intellectual. It's true he's patiently invested in gold over many years, and made a good deal of money. Hurrah for him!


Ron does not "stockpile guns," unlike the government, though he supports gun rights for private citizens. And if they want to collect guns, that's their business. He doesn't see black helicopters, though he does deplore the drones that spy on us for the police state, and which can kill us, too, on presidential whim. And yes, he quotes the great Austrian economist Hayek, and Mises, Rothbard, Sennholz, and the others, too. He has also read the works of these men.

However, I do like this quote: Ron "recounted Richard Nixon’s infamous declaration as president that 'we’re all Keynesians now'" – “'We’re all Austrians now,' Paul pronounced with a sense of looming triumph, a reference to the school of economics that most values the free market."

Then Politico refers to Ron's "ride into the sunset." They wish! Ron can barely keep up with the flood of speaking invitations from universities and financial groups. He is hot. And he has just announced the extraordinary Ron Paul Homeschool Curriculum, to educate children K-12 in real economics, real history, and all the other skills they need. Talk about building for the future! He also has a hew homeschool manifesto coming out to join his list of bestsellers, and he has other books in the works. He is founding a new institution that will especially bug the bad guys. More later this month. And he is involved in television production, a new website, and a host of other ways to reach Americans by circumventing the regime. Riding into the sunset? It's morning in Ron Paul's America!

jtstellar
04-07-2013, 05:52 PM
Meh, you'll find juvenile behavior comes with all statist philosophies-conservatism, left-liberalism, socialism, fascism, etc, etc.

at least neo-cons or quasi conservatives are less likely to have the 'everybody go to public school and get indoctrinated', conformity mindset. they are less school-ish, which is what juvenile writers reek of because they never graduated into real world. it's like they're still writing for some college.. no, high school article is more like it

itshappening
04-07-2013, 06:25 PM
I am so happy someone made this gif haha

Yeah, it's amusing. The reason I chose the nickname back then because watching the campaign unfold (I was lurking a bit before joining) I did indeed feel a sense of SOMETHING happening and there has been a massive sea change in politics - especially Republican politics - since those auspicious days.

sylcfh
04-09-2013, 12:33 AM
Stereotyped for decades as pro-pot, pro-porn and pro-pacifism, libertarians are becoming mainstream.


Now that is funny.


Remember Gail Collins?



He also doesn’t believe in, well, let’s see: gun control, the death penalty, the C.I.A., the Civil Rights Act, prosecuting flag-burners, hate crime legislation, foreign aid, the military draft under any circumstances, campaign finance reform, the war on drugs, the war on terror and the war on porn. Also the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/26/opinion/ok-now-ron-paul.html?_r=0