Its Official: James Holmes was on a Klonopin and SSRI combo

[presence]

a psychiatrist warned police
that accused Colorado theater gunman James Holmes
had homicidal thoughts
and was a danger to the public.

http://static.prisonplanet.com/slideshow/050413top4.jpg


The newly unsealed documents give glimpses



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They found prescription medication for sertraline, a generic version of

Zoloft
aka SSRI Drugs Can Turn People Into Monsters (http://ssristories.com/index.php)

used to treat depression, panic disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder; and
(http://www.latimes.com/topic/health/drugs-medicines/clonazepam-%28drug%29-HEDAR0000036.topic)




Clonazepam
aka the Worlds Deadliest Pill (http://www.thefix.com/content/worlds-most-dangerous-drug?page=all)

usually prescribed to treat anxiety and panic attacks.



http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-documents-20130405,0,6067279.story
(http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-james-holmes-documents-20130405,0,6067279.story)



It's beyond my comprehension
how any doctor could knowingly prescribe a drug
that may generate violence
and numb the individual to its consequences!

[MRK]

Don't these doctors learn from the medical literature about what happens in many cases when psychiatric drugs are combined with each other? It raises chances of chaotic events by orders of magnitude. Any high school kid that reads Erowid would be able to tell you that.

[dillo]

I used to take both of those

[pcosmar]

Don't these doctors learn from the medical literature about what happens in many cases when psychiatric drugs are combined with each other? It raises chances of chaotic events by orders of magnitude. Any high school kid that reads Erowid would be able to tell you that.

Unless the Chaotic Behavior is intentional. (directed,promoted/ Handled)

These are Mind Control Drugs. Mind Control is their purpose. Extensive research went into developing them.
The only question is "Who is in control of the mind?"

I am still not convinced that he wasn't reduced to the state of mindlessness.. and parked by a car waiting to be found.

[Lucille]

Related: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?401355-Why-did-Forbes-pull-this-quot-Psychiatric-Drugs-Not-A-Lack-Of-Gun-Control-Are-The-Common

[kcchiefs6465]

Can't say I'm really surprised.

[phill4paul]

I am still not convinced that he wasn't reduced to the state of mindlessness.. and parked by a car waiting to be found.

Nor am I. Of course, nothing of this nature will ever come out in trial.

[Lucille]

No, It's Not Guns -- It's The Nuts
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New questions confronted the University of Colorado, Denver on Friday amid disclosures that a psychiatrist who treated theater shooting suspect James Holmes had warned campus police a month before the deadly assault that Holmes was dangerous and had homicidal thoughts.

...

Fenton's blunt warning came more than a month before the July 20 attack at a movie theater that killed 12 and injured 70. Holmes had been a student in the university's Ph.D. neuroscience program but withdrew about six weeks before the shootings after failing a key examination.

...

"Dr. Fenton advised that through her contact with James Holmes she was reporting, per her requirement, his danger to the public due to homicidal statements he had made," the affidavit said.

Whitten added that Fenton said she began to receive threatening text messages from Holmes after he stopped seeing her for counseling, the documents said.

So we have a report more than a month before the shooting, from a qualified mental health professional, that the subject was expressing homicidal thoughts and in her opinion was a danger to the public.

In addition:


The newly released records also showed that police collected more than 100 items of evidence from Holmes' apartment, including 50 cans and bottles of beer, a Batman mask, paper shooting targets and prescription medications to treat anxiety and depression. His attorneys have said he is mentally ill.

Which ones?

They wouldn't be any of those drugs that have a black-label warning about mixed-manic states, activation of latent mania and specific risks for young adults in their teens and early 20s, right?

Gee, what did I say about creating Frankenstein monsters back when Newtown first happened?

And since we seem to insist on creating these monsters and protecting the "industry" that plays pill mill to millions of young people who are known to be at specific heightened risk of this sort of reaction to these drugs maybe those who wish to restrict or ban guns in any form or fashion can explain what you think those of us who are both law-abiding and stable should use to defend ourselves?

Yeah.

[Constitutional Paulicy]

It's a catch-22. The argument against SSRI's is that they make matters worse. Yet Big Pharma argues that the patient was mentally unstable. So the blame falls on the precondition of the patient, not the use of the drug.

How convenient. :rolleyes:

[kcchiefs6465]

I took klonopin once to fall asleep. Two 1mg pills. Didn't really help me fall asleep though my mind was racing. (imagine random images being displayed at 10 frames a second) Finally fell asleep. Went back to my apartment the next day, which was on the seventh floor. I've never felt that way before. Literally had the urge to jump out of the window. (I'm not suicidal and was able to fight the strong urge) The anxiety attacks were that bad. I was checking my heart rate and breathing in and out slowly. My feet started burning with shooting pain. That was the last time I took or will ever take klonopin. Even reading the word earlier (last night) I began breathing heavily and having a mild panic attack.

[FrankRep]

Psychiatric Meds: Prescription for Murder? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/14655-prescription-for-murder)


The lethal link between psychiatric meds and violence — including school shootings — has been largely ignored by officials.

Drug-induced Murder: What Caused the Connecticut School Shootings? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/14335-drug-induced-murder-what-caused-the-connecticut-school-shootings)


Most perpetrators of mass school shootings in the past 15 years have been on or were withdrawing from psychiatric drugs.

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Antidepressants and School Shootings, Suicide, Addiction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE

[Peace Piper]

Well it's not as if these drugs poisons come with a warning that they "increase the risk..of suicidal behavior and thinking"...

Wait-

Oh yes they do come with that exact warning! In fact, it's Federally Mandated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box_warning)! So no one should really be surprised, should they?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/ashleymiller/files/2013/01/Prozac-black-box1.jpeg

And if they were really dangerous wouldn't Congress have held hearings on this danger?

Wait-

In fact Congress did hold hearings. They went nowhere. Why could that be?

The Congressional antidepressant hearings: exploring the relationship between medication and veteran suicide.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20625367

And surely if they were a big potential risk a major news station would talk about it, right?

Wait-

Fox did, in 2003. These days, Fox is more interested in Video Games being a factor, or bullying.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAO5_Hk06Mc

This is a national crisis, and no national media is discussing it. That is a crime right there. We're in a drug war, don't forget.

[Brian4Liberty]

Two cover-ups. The Police had been warned and didn't do anything, and as usual, prescription drugs.

[presence]

We're in a drug war, don't forget.

...and an information war ;)

[DerailingDaTrain]

I used to take K-pins and I can tell you that they are definitely not the "Worlds Deadliest Pill".

[Peace Piper]

I used to take K-pins and I can tell you that they are definitely not the "Worlds Deadliest Pill".

If a car manufacturer built a certain model car and every 100,000th one blew up and killed everyone around would you buy that car? edit:add- there are probably hundreds of natural substances that will do a better job of whatever these pills do but pharma can't patent plants (yet-give that monsatan jackass time).

It's the FDA and Pharma. This incestuous relationship MUST BE STOPPED.

How a New Policy Led to Seven Deadly Drugs

Medicine: Once a wary watchdog, the Food and Drug Administration set out to become a "partner" of the pharmaceutical industry. Today, the public has more remedies, but some are proving lethal.

WASHINGTON—
For most of its history, the United States Food and Drug Administration approved new prescription medicines at a grudging pace, paying daily homage to the physician's creed, "First, do no harm."

Then in the early 1990s, the demand for AIDS drugs changed the political climate. Congress told the FDA to work closely with pharmaceutical firms in getting new medicines to market more swiftly. President Clinton urged FDA leaders to trust industry as "partners, not adversaries."

Old article, but more true than when it was written:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-122001fda,0,4840718,full.story

[UpperDecker]

I used to take K-pins and I can tell you that they are definitely not the "Worlds Deadliest Pill".

Just curious, but how old were you when you were prescribed? (You don't have to answer if you feel that is none of my business) I feel like these pills pose the most danger when prescribed to adolescents.

[Inkblots]

Anti-depressant and anti-anxiety drugs are safe and effective for the vast majority of the population, with easily manageable side-effects. In a small number of cases, whether due to interaction with other pharmaceuticals or the brain chemistry of a particular patient, they can contribute to harmful thoughts and behaviors.

It's the duty of the prescribing physician to monitor patients for such a reaction. But the rare incidence of cases like these is no more reason to discontinue the use of these drugs than it is to ban gun ownership -- I should think that was obvious. For literally millions of people, they contribute measurably to their quality of life, and, in some circumstances, are the primary reason they are able to live a normal life.

[pcosmar]

are the primary reason they are able to live a normal life.
BULLSHIT
People have lived normal lives for thousands of years before these Mind Control Drugs were in wide use.

[Inkblots]

People have lived normal lives for thousands of years before these Mind Control Drugs were in wide use.

Many people, yes. But those with major depression or anxiety disorders did not, often self-medicating by abuse of alcohol or other drugs available in the time and culture in which they lived, and dying from suicide or self-neglect. People with those problems today are far better off than their ancestors.

Also, calling anti-depressants "Mind Control Drugs" is nothing but useless scare-mongering. Used properly, they adjust chemical imbalances in the nervous system, nothing more.

[kcchiefs6465]

Just curious, but how old were you when you were prescribed? (You don't have to answer if you feel that is none of my business) I feel like these pills pose the most danger when prescribed to adolescents.
I was 21 when I took a couple. I literally had urges to jump out of the window. I've never been suicidal and am not suicidal. Coming off of klonopin, that window was calling me. I planted myself in a chair and smoked cigarettes until the burning in my feet went away. Maybe I became so tired I didn't notice it as much. I know it was hell and I would not recommend anyone doing them. (child or adult)

[pcosmar]

Also, calling anti-depressants "Mind Control Drugs" is nothing but useless scare-mongering. Used properly, they adjust chemical imbalances in the nervous system, nothing more.
I call them Mind Control Drugs because that is what they are,, by definition.

They were developed by people seeking to control the mind. And thereby control society. (Social Controllers)
The rest is hype and "selling points".

[UpperDecker]

I was 21 when I took a couple. I literally had urges to jump out of the window. I've never been suicidal and am not suicidal. Coming off of klonopin, that window was calling me. I planted myself in a chair and smoked cigarettes until the burning in my feet went away. Maybe I became so tired I didn't notice it as much. I know it was hell and I would not recommend anyone doing them. (child or adult)

Yeesh, that just sounds awful man.

[Jingles]

Yeah, klonopin is only really deadly if you if you like chug down a whole script of it with a bunch of oxycodone and like a fifth of whiskey.

I will say I used to like klonopin for recreational purposes when I did drugs (when benzos in general).