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libertygrl
04-03-2013, 11:29 AM
Check this out. You'll notice right away how this poll was set up in the manner it which it was, and the obvious intention behind it.


Survey mixes outlandish ideas with genuine conspiracies

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 3, 2013

Almost one third of Americans believe that a secretive power elite is conspiring to rule the world via an authoritarian global government, according to a new national poll.

A survey conducted by Public Policy Polling, labeled by many as a pro-Obama outfit, seems to be aimed at ascribing belief in “crazy conspiracy theories” to Republicans by mixing in real cover-ups and conspiracies with outlandish ideas.

However, despite the constant media drumbeat about the clear move towards centralization of power being a baseless conspiracy theory, the poll reveals that 28 per cent of Americans believe that “a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order.”

46 per cent of respondents do not believe this notion, while 25 per cent are not sure.

The poll asks a number of obviously far out questions that only people with fringe beliefs would ascribe to, such as, “Do you believe that shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form and gaining political power to manipulate our societies, or not?” and, “Do you believe Paul McCartney actually died in a car crash in 1966 and was secretly replaced by a lookalike so The Beatles could continue, or not?”

Serious issues that should not even be considered “conspiracy theories” and have largely come to be accepted as fact are then mixed in such as, “Do you believe the Bush administration intentionally misled the public about the possibility of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to promote the Iraq War, or not?”

Shockingly, a majority of 45% to 44% do not believe that the Bush administration intentionally lied about WMD, despite the fact that the Downing Street memo revealed that Bush was intent on invading Iraq and that “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.”

Another widely documented fact, that the CIA was instrumental in distributing crack cocaine into America’s inner cities in the 80′s to help finance CIA-backed Contras in Nicaragua, is also only accepted by 14 per cent of Americans.

Polls taken in the years after 9/11 which showed that a huge majority of Americans had questions about the 9/11 attacks now appear to be contradicted by the PPP poll, which asks, “Do you believe the United States government knowingly allowed the attacks on September 11th, 2001, to happen, or not?,” to which just 11 per cent of respondents said they did believe this notion, with 78 per cent disbelieving it.

Despite the vastness of the universe, a clear majority of Americans (47% to 29%) also do not believe that alien life exists.

A majority of 51 per cent believe that there was a wider conspiracy involved in the assassination of JFK, while 25% believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

A jaw-dropping 28 per cent of Americans still believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, despite this idea being overwhelmingly debunked and even admitted to be nonsense by Dick Cheney, one of the first individuals to circulate the idea.

A small minority, 5 per cent 9 per cent respectively, believe that chemtrails are being sprayed in the skies and that sodium fluoride is being added to drinking water for sinister purposes.

If anything, this poll merely underscores the fact that a majority of Americans are not well read and have little grasp of recent history.
The agency responsible for the survey, Public Policy Polling, has close links to the Democratic Party establishment and its neutrality has been questioned on numerous occasions in the past.

Indeed, when Infowars agreed a deal with PPP to conduct a poll on the Transportation Security Administration, the agency backed out at the last minute, citing how it was “uncomfortable with a lot of the content that appears on Infowars.com,” which clearly suggests that the organization allows political bias to skew its work.

The poll was subsequently accepted and conduct by Harris Interactive, which is widely renowned as one of the top polling agencies.

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Zippyjuan
04-03-2013, 11:40 AM
Some people also believe Elvis is still alive.

Christian Liberty
04-03-2013, 11:47 AM
“a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order.”

I don't know that its this overt. I think its a possibility, but I suspect that its less obvious than this.

I think there are people who support global government, and I think its going to happen eventually, but I don't know if its being planned, other than by Satan, as of yet.

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:04 PM
Some people also believe Elvis is still alive.
Has Bush ever openly stated that Elvis is alive?

Or are any policies being conveniently, or I suppose you'd argue, coincidentally shaped to benefit Elvis? Is 'Rock and Roll' consolidated solely around Elvis with anyone challenging the authority of Elvis's Rock and Roll being railroaded, murdered or overthrown?

You are starting to annoy me, zippy, with your constant negative naysaying. If someone posted that the sky was blue I truly believe you would arrive and say that the sky is often times sky blue with shades of purple. Being fairly new, I am starting to see why people are annoyed by your antics.

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:06 PM
A jaw-dropping 28 per cent of Americans still believe that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, despite this idea being overwhelmingly debunked and even admitted to be nonsense by Dick Cheney, one of the first individuals to circulate the idea.
Shaking my damn head.

Anti Federalist
04-03-2013, 12:08 PM
LOL

Does anybody have any idea how many of us, as US citizens, have to comply with global government (UN) regulations every day?

Ask any trucker.

Ask any pilot.

Ask any mariner.

Ask any manufacter.

Ask any importer/exporter.

Ask any chemist.

The list is endless and every one of these regulations is done without representation by...THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

And two thirds of people are clueless.

Brawndo has Electrolytes.

jkr
04-03-2013, 12:12 PM
You mean like the "UNITED nations"?

Zippyjuan
04-03-2013, 12:13 PM
Has Bush ever openly stated that Elvis is alive?

Or are any policies being conveniently, or I suppose you'd argue, coincidentally shaped to benefit Elvis? Is 'Rock and Roll' consolidated solely around Elvis with anyone challenging the authority of Elvis's Rock and Roll being railroaded, murdered or overthrown?

You are starting to annoy me, zippy, with your constant negative naysaying. If someone posted that the sky was blue I truly believe you would arrive and say that the sky is often times sky blue with shades of purple. Being fairly new, I am starting to see why people are annoyed by your antics.

"Elvis is alive" is negative naysaying? People believe all kinds of stuff. Some real, some not.

In the same survey above 13% said Obama was the Anti-Christ.

Christian Liberty
04-03-2013, 12:14 PM
Two thirds? I suspect its more than that considering I don't even know about most of these things.

To be fair, I'm somewhat biased by the fact that one of the most hawkish, pro-war jingoistic "Troops are fighting them over there so they won't come over here and take away our freedoms" people I know also believes in the Illuminati and the whole NWO thing.

Even still, I see the world as being much more likely to be influenced by conspiracy than I could have dreamed a year ago. There's some pretty insane things going on. Personally I think the American Empire is more the problem than some unidentifiable "New World Order."

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:15 PM
"Elvis is alive" is negative naysaying? People believe all kinds of stuff. Some real, some not.
What are your thoughts on the New World Order?

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:23 PM
The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House

“If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.”
- Andrew Jackson

“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.”
- Abraham Lincoln

We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton, USA Today on 3/11/93, page 2a

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets


“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
"It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it." - H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940

“Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
- Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.” –
Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, l992




@freedomfanatic, our US foreign policy is related.

Zippyjuan
04-03-2013, 12:26 PM
What are your thoughts on the New World Order?

What do you consider "New World Order?" When say George HW Bush talked about a "new world order" he was meaning a change from the status quo of how things were arranged- like the fall of the USSR. That sort of "new world order" does happen. "New World Order" as in some secret power behind the scenes controlling everything? That I don't believe in. Does this make me a negative naysayer? Then perhaps I am.

abacabb
04-03-2013, 12:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ECS8LEeI5M
A solid 30% of the population probably wipes their butts wrong. Watch this video, people are scary. The idea of universal suffrage empowers people like this to vote. Thankfully, they probably don't know how.

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:31 PM
LOL

Does anybody have any idea how many of us, as US citizens, have to comply with global government (UN) regulations every day?

Ask any trucker.

Ask any pilot.

Ask any mariner.

Ask any manufacter.

Ask any importer/exporter.

Ask any chemist.

The list is endless and every one of these regulations is done without representation by...THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

And two thirds of people are clueless.

Brawndo has Electrolytes.
That sounds like conspiracy pyschobabble to me. Next you are going to tell me that the UN somehow is granted the power to take us into war...

Christian Liberty
04-03-2013, 12:34 PM
“The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credits needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of consumers. By the adoption of these principles, the taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity.”
- Abraham Lincoln

Was Saint Abe really that dumb? Granted, I know he was a power creep and a mass murderer but he always struck me (At least since I've learned the truth about him, thanks to Tom Dilorenzo, Walter Williams, Ron Paul, and others) as being a brilliant power creeping mass murderer. Unlike George W. Bush, Lincoln was VERY efficient at being a dictator. I don't see how someone who was that efficient at being a dictator could say something this STUPID. This reminds me of the way I thought about money when I was like 13 years old. At the time I thought, due to total ignorance, that we could end poverty in this country, pay the debt, and make everyone rich just by printing more paper money. That someone who was actually in the position of POTUS actually thought that way is insane...

Any chance he was joking, or trying to be persuasive? Or did Saint Abe actually believe this nonsense.

(My use of the word "Saint" is satire here.)



@freedomfanatic, our US foreign policy is related.

Hmmm... This would be interesting to discuss with my grandmother, considering she is both a neoconservative AND a believer in New World Order. She hates Obama with a passion and does not believe that he would actually do anything to protect our country but she loved and adored the first Bush. Frankly, other than perhaps Obama, if this NWO thing really exists, I can't imagine anyone that would have helped it along more than George W.

If someone can PM me explaining how all of these things are supposed to relate, along with evidence, I'd be interested.

I think Global Government is somewhere in this world's future, I just don't know that there's actually a specific group of people trying to institute it. I think its more like a bunch of people support different principles but all of them logically lead to global government. Neoconservatism and Progressivism (Not really different, but they think they are) being the primary ones.

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 12:39 PM
What do you consider "New World Order?" When say George HW Bush talked about a "new world order" he was meaning a change from the status quo of how things were arranged- like the fall of the USSR. That sort of "new world order" does happen. "New World Order" as in some secret power behind the scenes controlling everything? That I don't believe in. Does this make me a negative naysayer? Then perhaps I am.
Your negative naysaying is in a good 9 out of 10 posts I read of yours. I have seen many other people call you out on it and I usually defended you in that you regularly provide sources for people to research for themselves. I am starting to come to the opinion to that they were right.

Yes, the New World Order as the banking elites. The money changers. Those with everlasting credit.

David Rockefeller has only admitted as much in his memoirs. Paul Warburg and the instituitionalization of the FED? That was not a conspiracy? Does banks conspiring with eachother to eliminate competition and ensure profits really seems that far-fetched to you? They have a monopoly on our money supply. It has happened in other lines of business.. monopolies that is, why would banking be exempt?

What are you thoughts on too big to prosecute?

Zippyjuan
04-03-2013, 12:43 PM
Your negative naysaying is in a good 9 out of 10 posts I read of yours. I have seen many other people call you out on it and I usually defended you in that you regularly provide sources for people to research for themselves. I am starting to come to the opinion to that they were right.

Yes, the New World Order as the banking elites. The money changers. Those with everlasting credit.

David Rockefeller has only admitted as much in his memoirs. Paul Warburg and the instituitionalization of the FED? That was not a conspiracy? Does banks conspiring with eachother to eliminate competition and ensure profits really seems that far-fetched to you? They have a monopoly on our money supply. It has happened in other lines of business.. monopolies that is, why would banking be exempt?

What are you thoughts on too big to prosecute?

I- perhaps like many people- am more likely to post an opinion where I disagree with what somebody said (and do back up what I say)- so it probably is true that most of my posts are disagreeing with something. If I agree I will nod my head and move on. So yes, it probably IS true that in most of my posts I am disagreeing. Thank you for your suport in the past.

As to your question- I don't think anybody should be "too big to prosecute".

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 01:00 PM
[SNIPPED]
Lmao at the Lincoln quote. Damn that is dumb. I really only read through a good four to five of the quotes to find the ones I was looking for. I then copied the whole page of quotes and pasted it. Probably should have edited a few out, I'd say. The main ones I wanted to point out were the couple of Rothschild quotes, the Rockefeller excerpt from his memoir, and Josiah Stamp's quote.

As far as evidence I can see the writing in the sand. The rhetoric and the destruction of our money, the constant fears and pushes for a more centralized government. They have been speaking about a global currency for quite a while. Us going to war to prop up the petrodollar. US sponsoring coups for pipelines and big money interests. The MSM and the same bullshit they spew. Their lack of coverage of Bilderberg, because you know, they were politely asked. :rolleyes: Rothschild and Murdoch's (and other very powerful men) oil company, Genie Energy, (which Dick Cheney is Vice President of) being awarded first rights to drill for oil in Golan Heights. It is all connected and quite frankly I am just beginning on my journey to connect some of these dots. Others I'm sure will have a lot more information than I. I can see the writing on the wall though, on where this is all headed.

A few good books to read are: The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin
Take the Rich Off Welfare by Mark Zepezauer
War is a Racket by Smedley Butler
Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since WWII by William Blum
Rogue State: The World's Last Superpower by William Blum
America's Deadliest Export: Democracy by William Blum

I am sure there are quite a few I am missing. Those are a pretty good start into the subject of the FED, its implementation and how our foreign policy ties into it. Take the Rich Off Welfare will definitely piss you off. Shows all of the subsidies and the political connections they are awarded because of. Eye opening book, for sure.

kcchiefs6465
04-03-2013, 01:07 PM
As to your question- I don't think anybody should be "too big to prosecute".
Are you aware of Eric Holder's statements on not being able to prosecute these 'too big to fail' banks under the premise that it would hurt our already slow economy?

I wonder, what type of power must one have for our highest prosecuting attorney in the land to openly state that they cannot (or will not) prosecute?

sailingaway
04-03-2013, 01:14 PM
more would if they didn't use such dismissive terminology to refer to it. Globilzation? Internationalization? Consolidation of power internationally into the hands of a few?

BlackTerrel
04-03-2013, 10:13 PM
LOL

Does anybody have any idea how many of us, as US citizens, have to comply with global government (UN) regulations every day?

Ask any trucker.

Ask any pilot.

Ask any mariner.

Ask any manufacter.

Ask any importer/exporter.

Ask any chemist.

The list is endless and every one of these regulations is done without representation by...THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

And two thirds of people are clueless.

Brawndo has Electrolytes.

+1

Anti Federalist
04-03-2013, 10:22 PM
+1

Glad you enjoyed that.

All I have to do is look over my shoulder at two full bookcases of UN/IMO regs I have to comply with.

All done without any input from me or representation on my behalf.

The NWO is here.

BlackTerrel
04-03-2013, 10:53 PM
Glad you enjoyed that.

All I have to do is look over my shoulder at two full bookcases of UN/IMO regs I have to comply with.

All done without any input from me or representation on my behalf.

This was one of the first things that awoke me to how big and out of control government is.

Regulation is every fucking where.

Started realizing it when I found out the guy who cut my hair needs a license.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaa???

You need a fucking license to cut hair? How about good barbers get more business and shitty ones get less? We don't need the government to protect us from bad haircuts.

BlackTerrel
04-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Glad you enjoyed that.

All I have to do is look over my shoulder at two full bookcases of UN/IMO regs I have to comply with.

All done without any input from me or representation on my behalf.

The NWO is here.

Adam Carolla on building codes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ZdY9BLbgQ

libertyrailroader
04-03-2013, 11:23 PM
John F Hylan Former Transit worker and Mayor New York
'The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. To depart from mere generalizations, let me say that at the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller-Standard-oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as the international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes.‘They practically control both parties, write political platforms, make catspaws of party leaders, use the leading men of private organizations, and resort to every device to place in nomination for high public office only such candidates as will be amenable to the dictates of corrupt big business.‘These international bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.

One of my favorite presidents Theodore Roosevelt

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing NO allegiance and acknowledging NO responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today."

"These International bankers and Rockefeller-Standard Oil interests control the majority of newspapers and the columns of these newspapers to club into submission or drive out of public office officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government."

Standard oil still exists and still controls us.

DamianTV
04-04-2013, 12:24 AM
1/3rd of the population down, 2/3rds to go.