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alucard13mmfmj
03-26-2013, 07:27 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/giffords-husband-pulls-dog-off-sea-lion-calif-025912905.html



LOS ANGELES (AP) — The daughter of former astronaut Mark Kelly was walking her dog Shiner on Goff Island Beach when the dog bolted, ripping the leash from her hand and fatally attacking a beached baby sea lion.

Video showed the owner and two other women struggling several minutes in vain to pull the dog off the sea lion. As his daughter screamed and cried, Kelly arrived and grabbed the collar. He shook the dog's head until it released the bloodied mammal, which later died.

Kelly is married to former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was wounded in a shooting in Tucson, Ariz., in 2011. His daughters, Claudia and Claire, are from a previous marriage.

Laguna Beach police said they did not plan to press charges because it did not appear the owner was at fault in the attack Saturday, Capt. Jason Kravetz said Tuesday. The bulldog mix was leashed and legally on the beach below the exclusive Montage Resort.

A necropsy was performed at the Pacific Marine Mammal Center and results were turned over to the National Marine Fish Services, a spokeswoman for the marine mammal center said late Tuesday. Attempts to contact a spokeswoman at that agency did not succeed because her voicemail was full.

In addition, Laguna Beach police checked with Texas authorities, where the dog and his owner live, and found Shiner had a clean record. Kravetz said there were no prior attacks or even any nuisance calls.

If there had been a history of aggression, authorities could have taken action against the dog.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also does not expect to take legal action, spokesman Jim Milbury said.

"We will have to wait for all the facts to come in, but it appears to be an unfortunate accident," he said.

Federal law protects marine animals. The state has no jurisdiction, a spokeswoman said.

Earlier in the day Saturday, officers had removed the same sea lion from a storm drain, Kravetz said.

"This is a regrettable and traumatic incident for the animals and the people involved," said Madeline Bernstein, president of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Los Angeles. "Perhaps this will lead to more research and recommendations for peaceful coexistence between domestic animals and local wildlife."

Chasing, hunting or attacking animals like cats and squirrels comes naturally to some dogs, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals said in a statement. In this case it was a vulnerable sea lion.

If the dog has not shown any other signs of aggression, the family should take new precautions and do all they can to make sure no future incidents occur. "But they should not punish the dog," the statement said.

Giffords was not present during the attack, according to a spokeswoman for the gun control advocacy group the couple recently started.

"Mark was alerted to the situation and came to the beach himself," said Jen Bluestein of Americans for Responsible Solutions.

Gun advocates seized on the incident to criticize Kelly, who has called for background checks for gun buyers.

Several people suggested on his Facebook page Tuesday that background checks might also be considered for dogs whose owners can't control them or those that are a threat to the public. Kravetz said he had gotten several similar calls throughout the day.


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This article is full of win...

Also, if the dog belonged to one of us ordinary people.. It would've been shot or killed.

green73
03-26-2013, 07:29 PM
Meh. It was her daughter's dog.

ronpaulfollower999
03-26-2013, 07:33 PM
WTF? Who takes a video of that shit.

jkob
03-26-2013, 07:34 PM
BAN ALL DOGS

VBRonPaulFan
03-26-2013, 07:46 PM
BAN ALL DOGS

only assault dogs, or dogs whose torsos hold more than 2 legs.

Tod
03-26-2013, 08:20 PM
Guarantee you if you or I had that happen, we'd be charged with all kinds of stuff.

kcchiefs6465
03-26-2013, 08:35 PM
Guarantee you if you or I had that happen, we'd be charged with all kinds of stuff.
Trust and believe if my dog ate a seal, no one would know about it.

James Madison
03-26-2013, 08:40 PM
only assault dogs, or dogs whose torsos hold more than 2 legs.

You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.

Slutter McGee
03-26-2013, 08:45 PM
The dog was probably so proud of itself.

Slutter McGee

fr33
03-26-2013, 08:49 PM
Background checks for dog owners. Ban assault dogs.

Danan
03-26-2013, 08:55 PM
You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.

The Constitution was not written with 20th century dogs like golden retrievers in mind!

brushfire
03-26-2013, 08:55 PM
Another experiment?

To see how easy it would be for a dog to kill a beached baby sea lion?

James Madison
03-26-2013, 08:56 PM
The Constitution was not written with 20th century dogs like golden retrievers in mind!

That's right!

Our knowledge of genetics and selective breeding has given rise to certain breeds our Founding Fathers could not have imagined!

Danan
03-26-2013, 09:04 PM
That's right!

Our knowledge of genetics and selective breeding has given rise to certain breeds our Founding Fathers could not have imagined!

What's next? Should private citizens be allowed to keep rams and bulls? Everybody knows that only federal agents could possibly handle those beasts safely!

alucard13mmfmj
03-26-2013, 09:28 PM
yeah.. the main reason i posted it is that

Normal people would be charged and/or dog would be shot or euthanized. Get real... They are saying that the seal was going to die anyways and that the dog's "superficial" bites was not the cause of death.

And the last part of the story, where.. people want background checks before people can own a dog >.>

Grubb556
03-26-2013, 10:32 PM
You don't need a 50 pound dog! A nice little poodle is more than enough.

Big dogs should only be kept by police and military.

Shouldn't it be the other way?, cause some small dogs are pretty aggressive.

AGRP
03-26-2013, 10:39 PM
Now Gabby can lobby to criminalize all beached baby seals, dog walking, and assault dogs.

kcchiefs6465
03-26-2013, 10:40 PM
Shouldn't it be the other way?, cause some small dogs are pretty aggressive.
We don't need sub-dogs either. They are too concealable.

MRK
03-26-2013, 11:22 PM
If this were the dog of a mundane, the dog would be dead and the owner would be headed to court to expect a calamitous fine and a jail sentence to remember.

anaconda
03-27-2013, 12:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyYlYuaj_zU

afwjam
03-27-2013, 01:30 AM
Did you see the way they tried to pull the sea lion out of the dogs mouth? These people are hopeless, they killed the sea lion with their stupidity.

bunklocoempire
03-27-2013, 02:14 AM
Gee, my kids know how to be responsible with their dogs just like my kids are responsible with their firearms.

If your own family can't even handle a stinkin' dog you certainly have no leg to stand on telling me and mine what we can or can't own.

Get stuffed.:mad:

Athan
03-27-2013, 09:32 AM
Wow, look at how PETA did a 180 when it came to the poor baby seal. Moral of the story, if you are going to skin an animal, have an Obama sticker.

bolil
03-27-2013, 11:10 AM
in the water sea lion eats dog. I fail to see the big deal.

MRK
03-27-2013, 11:24 AM
in the water sea lion eats dog. I fail to see the big deal.

Getting even on his home turf. lol!

UWDude
03-27-2013, 07:01 PM
I've never seen a gun attack someone, but I have seen a dog attack someone, and it was almost fatal.