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itshappening
03-14-2013, 07:09 PM
Looks like Charles is trying to answer Rand here... and this is his idea.

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Charles Krauthammer

Opinion Writer

Codify the drone war

In choice of both topic and foil, Rand Paul’s now legendary Senate filibuster was a stroke of political genius. The topic was, ostensibly, very narrow: Does the president have the constitutional authority to put a drone-launched Hellfire missile through your kitchen — you, a good citizen of Topeka to whom POTUS might have taken a dislike — while you’re cooking up a pot roast?

The constituency of those who could not give this question a straight answer is exceedingly small. Unfortunately, among them is Attorney General Eric Holder. Enter the foil. He told a Senate hearing that such an execution would not be “appropriate.”

Appropriate being a bureaucratic word meaning nothing, Holder’s answer was a PR disaster. The correct response, of course, is: Absent an active civil war on U.S. soil (of the kind not seen in 150 years) or a jihadist invasion from Saskatchewan led by the Topeka pot roaster, the answer is no.

The hypothetical being inconceivable, Paul’s performance was both theatrically brilliant and substantively irrelevant. As for the principle at stake, Holder’s opinion carries no weight in any case. He is hardly a great attorney general whose words will ring through history. Nor would anything any attorney general says be binding on the next president, or for that matter on any Congress or court.

The vexing and pressing issue is the use of drones abroad. The filibuster pretended not to be about that. Which is testimony to Paul’s political adroitness. It was not until two days later that he showed his hand, writing in The Post, “No American should be killed by a drone without first being charged with a crime.” Note the absence of the restrictive clause: “on American soil.”

Now we’re talking about a larger, more controversial issue: the killing-by-drone in Yemen of al-Qaeda operative Anwar al-Awlaki. Outside American soil, the Constitution does not rule, no matter how much Paul would like it to. Yet Paul’s unease applies to non-American drone targets as well. His quarrel is with the very notion of the war on terror, though he is normally too smart to say that openly and unequivocally. Unlike his father, who implied that 9/11 was payback for our sins, Paul the Younger more gingerly expresses general skepticism about not just the efficacy but the legality of the entire war.

That skepticism is finding an audience as the war grinds into its 12th year, as our hapless attorney general vainly tries to define its terms and as the administration conducts a major drone war with defiant secrecy. Nor is this some minor adjunct to battle — an estimated 4,700 have been killed by drone.

George W. Bush was excoriated for waterboarding exactly three terrorists, all of whom are now enjoying an extensive retirement on a sunny Caribbean island (though strolls beyond Gitmo’s gates are prohibited). Whereas President Obama, with thousands of kills to his name, evokes little protest from yesterday’s touch-not-a-hair-on-their-head zealots. Of whom, of course, Sen. Obama was a leading propagandist.

Such hypocrisy is the homage Democrats pay to Republicans when the former take office, confront national security reality, feel the weight of their duty to protect the nation — and end up doing almost everything they had denounced their predecessors for doing. The beauty of such hypocrisy, however, is that the rotation of power creates a natural bipartisan consensus on the proper conduct of this war.

Which creates a unique opportunity to finally codify the rules. The war’s constitutional charter, the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), has proved quite serviceable. But the commander-in-chief’s authority is so broad — it leaves the limits of his power to be determined, often in secret memos, by the administration’s own in-house lawyers — that it has spawned suspicion, fear and now filibuster.

It is time to rethink. That means not repealing the original AUMF but, using the lessons of the past 12 years, rewriting it with particular attention to a new code governing drone warfare and the question of where, when and against whom it should be permitted.

Necessity having led the Bush and Obama administrations to the use of near-identical weapons and tactics, a national consensus has been forged. Let’s make it open. All we need now is a president willing to lead and a Congress willing to take responsibility for the conduct of a war that, however much Paul and his acolytes may wish it away, will long be with us.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-codify-the-drone-war/2013/03/14/5dd87058-8cd6-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_story.html

itshappening
03-14-2013, 07:13 PM
Krauthammer gets something wrong big time here:

"Outside American soil, the Constitution does not rule, no matter how much Paul would like it to"

Yes, it does apply. It applies to anyone who is accused. The 5th says "persons". That even covers non-citizens who are extradited from various countries around the world to the United States and given due process. They don't just drone them. They extradite them. So does Krauthammer think the constitution doesn't apply to persons who are extradited to the United States? They can be imprisoned indefinitely without charge or trial? Obviously not.

Christian Liberty
03-14-2013, 07:47 PM
Ron Paul didn't exactly say "9/11 was payback for our sins." This guy is on crack. Which means he should support Ron Paul, the only candidate that doesn't want him in jail.

HOLLYWOOD
03-14-2013, 08:08 PM
Re-authorize THE WAR ON TERROR? Does Krauthammer mean reauthorizing the; MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, THE POLICE STATE, THE SPENDING, THE DEBT, THE BOMBING, THE DRONE KILLING, THE HATRED, THE BLOWBACK... THE RETRIBUTION?

WASH...
RINSE...
REPEAT

Reauthorize: THE DRUG WAR... that's been a complete failure too AND it's been proven around the world when you end all these oppressive "WARS ON WHATEVER..." peace
it's blowback of retaliation from inflicted terror/oppression/etc


Oh that Klever K-Street Krauthammer's Hegelian-Dialectic... his is about Control(Create the problem so as the population reacts in fear) and the Making Money(solution of the transfer/concentration of even more power to those who originally created the problems)

Absolutely Power Corrupts... mark these words, Charles Krauthammer is Diabolical

Occam's Banana
03-14-2013, 09:04 PM
Every time I see Krauthammer's face, the word "batarang" pops into my head. (It must be the eyebrows ...)

Anyway, that's the limit of my insight on Chucky K. It's probably more than the subject deserves.

Origanalist
03-14-2013, 09:20 PM
Every time I see Krauthammer's face, the word "batarang" pops into my head. (It must be the eyebrows ...)

Anyway, that's the limit of my insight on Chucky K. It's probably more than the subject deserves.

No, no, no. Let's discuss the Hammer all night long.........

Brett85
03-14-2013, 09:33 PM
"Outside American soil, the Constitution does not rule"

Ok. If that's the case I'll make sure to never take a vacation anywhere outside of the United States.

ClydeCoulter
03-14-2013, 09:58 PM
"Outside American soil, the Constitution does not rule"

Ok. If that's the case I'll make sure to never take a vacation anywhere outside of the United States.

The Federal Government is bound by it. What does he mean, "Outside American soil"?

misean
03-14-2013, 10:21 PM
The Federal Government is bound by it. What does he mean, "Outside American soil"?

That's the whole logic behind Quantanamo Bay and the NDAA.

jkr
03-14-2013, 10:37 PM
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4969935192524907&pid=1.7&w=155&h=135&c=7&rs=1

bolil
03-14-2013, 10:39 PM
Hmmm, Poor chuck looks like he has dystonia.

Professor8000
03-14-2013, 10:51 PM
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that wherever the Federal Government goes, so goes the Constitution?