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Natural Citizen
03-12-2013, 07:17 PM
From Greg Hunter over at USAWATCHDOG......

A pretty good once over I think although not too much along the lines of military/defense spending and those intricates.


Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (http://usawatchdog.com/)

Everybody is talking about the cuts in government spending with the $85 billion in forced spending cuts in military and social programs. $85 billion amounts to little more than a 2% cut in $3.8 trillion (or $3,800 billion) in federal spending per year. Didn’t most working Americans just suffer a 2% pay cut with the expiration of the Social Security tax holiday? How many times have we heard that thousands of government jobs will be lost to sequestration? The so-called Great Recession destroyed at least 8 million private sector jobs, and if you count the underemployed and discouraged workers, it’s easily 23 million.

Why are government employees being considered as some sort of sacred cow? What many are feeling was summed up with a recent comment on the USAWatchdog.com site from “Chuck O.” He wrote, “I’ve retired after 44 years working. Throughout the entire period, I lived through no fewer than 10 lay-offs and cut-backs. I have yet to see any appreciable lay-off or cut-back in the federal work force (EVER). I feel it is about time “they” should take a “hit.” How about a 20% cut back on ALL salaries? “They” need to share in the austerity. We all should have the same insurance benefits, too. “Their” retirement program and health insurance is way out of line; cut it back. A 20% cut would be way better than NO PAY at all. 20 % could really help lower the debt. I’m really getting KILLED by this money printing. In the 12 years I’ve been retired, my dollars have lost more than 30 % of their purchasing power. Obama’s crew hasn’t a clue. My wife and I have BOTH had to go back to work at 70 years old.”

With foreigners increasingly shunning Treasuries and the dollar, the only way to keep all those government jobs is to raise taxes on the private sector or print money. The Republicans caved on tax increases at the beginning of the year, so that option is closed. Now, we are left with the Federal Reserve’s “open-ended” money printing operation that creates $85 billion a month out of thin air. A little more than half of that amount ($45 billion) goes to buy Treasury bonds to finance the federal government. The rest ($40 billion) goes to the continued banker bailout that buys their sour (and I think fraudulent) mortgage debt. The money printing is what’s causing Chuck O’s “30%” loss in purchasing power for his retirement dollars. As the money printing continues, the buck will buy less and less.

Why doesn’t the President divert just 2 months of the $40 billion the Fed creates every month to continue the banker bailouts to stop most of the $85 billion of spending cuts? In case you haven’t noticed, the bankers are a sacred cow. The big banks have gobbled up trillions in bailouts already, and there is no end in sight. After all, the Fed action is “open-ended.” The banks are the reason why the U.S is in financial trouble, and the continuing banker bailout is why the economy will never get better. The only reason why the economy has not collapsed is the Fed can print money to buy sour debt that no one else would touch.

Because of all this money printing, the rest of the world is in the process of shunning the dollar and the U.S. Treasury. It looks like gold, or some other gold-backed currency, will facilitate global trade in the not-so-distant future. Jim Willie of GoldenJackass.com says when the world stops using the dollar, it’s game over. In a recent post, Mr. Willie wrote, “The gold trade finance concept ushers in a new alternative system long sought in order to create a more viable equitable sustainable financial structure. The banking system should serve trade, not the reverse. Hence the UST Bond will slowly vanish from the global banking system, and the US Dollar will lose its global reserve status. The end result is an unavoidable slide by the United States into the Third World.” (Click here for the complete GoldenJackass.com post.) (http://www.goldenjackass.com/main5.html)

You want to see what an “unavoidable slide by the United States into the Third World” looks like? Behold the bankrupt city of Detroit that recently became a ward of the State of Michigan. Detroit’s bond debt alone is a whopping $14 billion (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/01/detroit-emergency-manager/1956975/). I doubt it’s worth pennies on the dollar, if that much. You are not hearing much about this in the mainstream media (MSM). Maybe it’s because this is what socialism looks like when you finally run out of other people’s money. In a recent post on the FinancialSurvivalNetwork.com, Kerry Lutz wrote, “The city’s day-to-day operations are in total meltdown. Many police calls go unanswered. Large sections of the city are dark at night because thieves have stolen the streetlights’ copper wiring for scrap. Public education is a euphemism for warehousing and babysitting the criminal youth of tomorrow. Packs of wild dogs are found throughout the city. In many areas, garbage collection is a luxury that can no longer be afforded, and street cleaning is non-existent.” (Click here for the complete FSN post.) (http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2013/03/detroit-city-of-the-future/)

Do you really think Detroit can turn things around without big cuts and sacrifice? They keep telling us about how the cuts will hurt and they need to be done in a “smart way.” I’ll bet Detroit would have liked to have tackled their financial problems in a “smart way” and made all of those “smart cuts.” Every time I hear the “smart cut” argument, I think, okay, give me $85 billion in “smart cuts” this year and every year for the next 10 years. I also keep hearing that we need to fix our financial problems long term and not now during this “fragile recovery.” Haven’t the powers been telling us this for years? You can see how well it has worked.

Remember, what is going on with the $600 billion in new taxes and $1.2 trillion in spending cuts (total of $1.8 trillion) is less than half of what the bi-partisan Simpson-Bowles debt commission came up with in 2010. The Simpson-Bowles plan was around a $4 trillion combination over the next 10 years, and even that only slowed the growth of our debt. Everyone keeps asking about the pain caused by the spending cuts. They are asking the wrong question. Everyone should be asking: What happens if the U.S. doesn’t cut spending? I think the answer is Detroit.

Christian Liberty
03-12-2013, 07:40 PM
Yeah.. but mass inflation is necessary for a vibrant economy because Keynes.

(Sarcasm.)

oyarde
03-12-2013, 11:16 PM
What will happen ? Good question .Look at the US Senate as it exists today.There will be no cuts,obviously .So , what then ??Only one answer.

Natural Citizen
03-12-2013, 11:53 PM
What will happen ? Good question .Look at the US Senate as it exists today.There will be no cuts,obviously .So , what then ??Only one answer.

Well, I'd agree that if cuts don't happen (which they won't) then we have only to look at Detroit to see what happens.



by Kerry Lutz
Financial Survival Network (http://financialsurvivalnetwork.com/2013/03/detroit-city-of-the-future/)


Michigan’s governor, Rick Snyder, has finally bitten the bullet, appointing an emergency manager to run the failed city of Detroit. This is a great example of what happens when collectivists take over a productive affluent city, running it unchallenged for half a century. Its problems are largely due to one party rule by democrats and the real-life application of socialistic principals.

The city’s decline began in earnest in 1967. Police brutality towards blacks was then the norm. A minor incident turned into a major riot that lasted for 7 days. Detroit was in flames and broken. It never recovered. White flight, already well underway, accelerated, further dooming the city. Government’s attempts to fix things, led to one misguided program after another. Every effort to raise Detroit from poverty and blight only put it into further decline. The free market was never viewed as an option.

The auto industry, long the stalwart of Detroit’s economy began a generational decline, greatly reducing the city’s employment and economic activity. Population went from 1.8 million in 1950 to just 700,000 today. Detroit now looks more like war-torn Stalingrad, than a 21st century American City. Thousands of vandalized abandoned buildings stand as monuments to abject failure.

The city’s day-to-day operations are in total meltdown. Many police calls go unanswered. Large sections of the city are dark at night, because thieves have stolen the streetlights’ copper wiring for scrap. Public education is a euphemism for warehousing and babysitting the criminal youth of tomorrow. Packs of wild dogs are found throughout the city. In many areas garbage collection is a luxury that can no longer be afforded and street cleaning is non-existent.

Appointment of an emergency manager is undemocratic. The manager has near dictatorial powers. With the stroke of a pen, he can abrogate contracts, lay off workers, cut pension obligations and basically stick it to the unions. This state of affairs is the result of anti-democratic, anti-market forces that have been at work for decades. One party rule, forced unionization, the anti-poverty parasitic infrastructure and a series of incompetent/corrupt mayors have all played a role in this disaster. Detroit is truly the city that doesn’t work.

Detroit has run out of hope and options. Perhaps mass demolition of the dilapidated structures, a redefinition of what core government services must be delivered and defoliation of union power will help slow down the final dissolution of this once great city. Barring any miracles, the situation looks bleak. Businesses that can do so have moved away in droves. In the absence of excessive subsidies, what business would ever think of relocating there? The auto companies are now worldwide multi-nationals garnering more sales outside the US than within. No doubt they’d all love to flee Detroit for lower taxed and safer environs, but they won’t dare do it. They don’t want to take the PR hit that would ensue.

What lessons can be learned from this failed experiment in social engineering? First, no matter how well intended, government in and of itself cannot create wealth and prosperity; it usually winds up doing the exact opposite. Next, one party and even two party rule eventually lead to failure. Also, high taxes kill jobs and businesses everywhere it’s tried. Finally, free market solutions must be attempted regardless of the political risk.

Is Detroit a metaphor for urban America, at least in the high-taxed industrial states? Well it certainly appears that way. Other once great cities appear to be headed down a similar path. Philadelphia, St. Louis, Hartford, Chicago, Camden, Buffalo, Los Angeles and so many more are part of this exclusive expanding club. This list is just too long to recount here. Until the power of unions is broken, state and local taxes are cut to the bone and government services are pared back to their basic essentials, urban decay will continue unabated. Finally, the elimination of one party rule and both political machines is an absolute necessity, if we’re ever to dig our way out of this economic ditch we now find ourselves in.

~Kerry.

DamianTV
03-13-2013, 12:48 AM
What will happen ? Good question .Look at the US Senate as it exists today.There will be no cuts,obviously .So , what then ??Only one answer.

Thats funny cuz I came up with three.

Zim. Bab. We.

Ok, I cant count for shit.

Natural Citizen
07-19-2013, 02:20 PM
Hm. So I see that FOX NEWS is harping/spinning about pensions or something all of a sudden in Detroit after they have said that they wanted to declare bankruptcy now.

As was mentioned earlier this bailout will never get paid back. People, this is what happens if we don't cut spending. Detroit can and will happen any place. Could be your town.

Zippyjuan
07-19-2013, 07:05 PM
Federal Payroll runs under $500 billion a year http://www.federaltimes.com/article/20110214/BENEFITS01/102140303/Federal-payroll-would-reach-177B-under-2012-budget-plan


The government's total personnel costs — including the legislative and judicial branches, the U.S. Postal Service and military service members — are expected to reach a record $461 billion next year.

(article from 2011). Cutting 20% would reduce the deficit by $92 billion.

Natural Citizen
12-05-2013, 06:43 PM
Just to reiterate...


Everyone should be asking: What happens if the U.S. doesn’t cut spending? I think the answer is Detroit

Better late then never, I suppose. Seems like people are asking finally.

ZENemy
12-05-2013, 06:49 PM
Yeah.. but mass inflation is necessary for a vibrant economy because Keynes.

(Sarcasm.)

He's surging!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l124ellWdY

libertarianMoney
12-05-2013, 07:12 PM
What happens if the US doesn't cut spending?

For me that reads exactly the same as: What is going to happen?
Cut spending.... Yea right...

Quark
12-05-2013, 08:06 PM
If the U.S doesn't cut spending, nature will. Simple as that.

DamianTV
12-05-2013, 08:25 PM
No one seems to learn from History. Cant exactly blame em with the way that History is taught in Public Schools.

Summary: U.S.S.R.

belian78
12-05-2013, 10:09 PM
What's going to happen is exactly what a number of economists have said is going to happen. Massive inflation will finally hit, our currency will bottom out, and the immediate hit will be felt by main st rather than the beltway. It will be every bit as bad as folks have said it will be, and most likely worse. And as others have said, I believe this has all been orchestrated in order to usher the US's way into a global currency. Once our dollar is worth squat most Americans will be begging to use a foreign currency, if it means the lights stay on. That's when the real fight will start, if it's to start at all.

kcchiefs6465
12-05-2013, 10:31 PM
What's going to happen is exactly what a number of economists have said is going to happen. Massive inflation will finally hit, our currency will bottom out, and the immediate hit will be felt by main st rather than the beltway. It will be every bit as bad as folks have said it will be, and most likely worse. And as others have said, I believe this has all been orchestrated in order to usher the US's way into a global currency. Once our dollar is worth squat most Americans will be begging to use a foreign currency, if it means the lights stay on. That's when the real fight will start, if it's to start at all.
The loss purchasing power of every dollar has gone somewhere.

oyarde
12-06-2013, 01:24 AM
Fuck 'em all . One day , they will not be able to steal from me further.

eduardo89
12-06-2013, 01:28 AM
The federal government should be spending more! We have illegal immigrants who can't afford Ferraris and people on food stamps who just had their benefits cut by a couple dollars a month! How can we let this go on?!?!