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NCGOPer_for_Paul
03-11-2013, 01:53 PM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mayor_bloomberg_believes_themselves_enfmR96eplT88T yLQInuoI?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost

Finally, someone with a small amount of common sense.

EBounding
03-11-2013, 01:55 PM
I hope no one threw out any inventory.

sailingaway
03-11-2013, 02:14 PM
and a day before it was going into effect!

State Judge Halts New York City Soda Ban

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/03/11/state-judge-halts-new-york-city-soda-ban/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


New York City’s new rules limiting the sale of large sugary-drinks were supposed to go into effect Tuesday.

The city is “enjoined and permanently restrained from implementing or enforcing the new regulations,” New York Supreme Court Judge Milton Tingling decided Monday.

The regulations are “fraught with arbitrary and capricious consequences,” the judge wrote. “The simple reading of the rule leads to the earlier acknowledged uneven enforcement even within a particular city block, much less the city as a whole….the loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the state purpose of the rule.”

Bruno
03-11-2013, 02:20 PM
I hope no one threw out any inventory.

Many did, and changed menus, ordered new products and changed cup sizes.

Keith and stuff
03-11-2013, 02:22 PM
Many did, and changed menus, ordered new products and changed cup sizes.

Yup, this cost businesses lot of money. Maybe $100,000 gone. Maybe more :( Plus it cost the government money so taxpayers in the city and the state lost money from this.

Lucille
03-11-2013, 02:23 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-11/bloomberg-appeal-halt-arbitrary-and-capricious-decision-will-fight-valiantly-curb-ne


It took the NY Mayor's office a few brief minutes to respond to Judge Tingling's order, and announce it would promptly appeal the decision. Because apparently nobody thought of the children.

@NYCMayorsOffice We believe @nycHealthy has the legal authority and responsibility to tackle causes of the obesity epidemic, which kills 5,000 NYers a year.

@NYCMayorsOffice We plan to appeal the sugary drinks decision as soon as possible, and we are confident the measure will ultimately be upheld.

Brian4Liberty
03-11-2013, 02:28 PM
Was this ban voted on by the City Council or whatever process the city goes through to enact new law?

The ruling sounds like the Judges just don't like the law.

Christian Liberty
03-11-2013, 02:29 PM
Wait, now obesity can kill? I mean, I know being obese can lead to premature death. But Obesity KILLING PEOPLE? That's just rhetoric. Its as if Obesity itself is a living thing that government needs to get rid of like actual criminals. People are responsible for their own choices. Bloomberg is an idiot.


Was this ban voted on by the City Council or whatever process the city goes through to enact new law?

The ruling sounds like the Judges just don't like the law.

I'm not totally sure why I should care. If it was the Federal SCOTUS or something I'd see the problem with giving the Federal government new powers it doesn't already have. Not sure what New York's state constitution says, but as far as the Federal constitution goes there's no real such thing as "County rights" or "Town rights" only state's rights and individual rights. I'm generally a rabid decentralist as the best liberty strategy, and I can see problems with the state government having this kind of oversight, but right now it seems like the judge is using his powers in a good way to get rid of a bad law. As long as it isn't unconstitutional, good on him.

Lucille
03-11-2013, 02:31 PM
Was this ban voted on by the City Council or whatever process the city goes through to enact new law?...

No it wasn't.


Tingling also concluded that the Bloomberg-appointed Board of Health does not have the authority to "limit or ban a legal item under the guise of 'controlling chronic disease.'" He said the proper forum for the drink restrictions Bloomberg wanted would have been the city council (http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/31/bloomberg-insists-his-plan-to-limit-new), because "it alone has the authority to legislate as the board seeks to do here." He said Bloomberg's meddling in people's drink orders raises the problem of untrammeled regulatory power "to new heights":

Ranger29860
03-11-2013, 02:32 PM
Was this ban voted on by the City Council or whatever process the city goes through to enact new law?

The ruling sounds like the Judges just don't like the law.

Did you even read the article? The judge specifically stated that the reason he opposed this "law" is precisely because it did not get enacted through the proper authorities.

Brian4Liberty
03-11-2013, 02:38 PM
and a day before it was going into effect!

State Judge Halts New York City Soda Ban

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/03/11/state-judge-halts-new-york-city-soda-ban/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Did you even read the article? The judge specifically stated that the reason he opposed this "law" is precisely because it did not get enacted through the proper authorities.

I read the above article, which didn't mention that. I also tried to read through the legalese of the actual decision. What did you read for fun today?

green73
03-11-2013, 02:39 PM
COURT: 'Arbitrary and capricious'... (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100442833)
BLOOMY: 'We're not banning anything. It's called portion control'... (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/mayor-bloomberg-were-not-banning-anything-its-called-portion-control)


http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/G9fJljTJCG58PREG_Gqmdg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0yOTk7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-02-27T193111Z_1028237219_GM1E92S09OW01_RTRMADP_3_USA. JPG
JUDGE SLAPS DOWN SODA BAN (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323826704578354543929974394.html)
http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

Anti Federalist
03-11-2013, 02:53 PM
Is anybody going to get tired of this?

The ruling class is just laughing its ass off at all of us, jumping around like a bunch of retarded monkeys, spending money and time and pulling our hair out, trying to comply with the un - compliable.

Fuck these tyrants...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DTgdGScnJUY/UBHwnPM2chI/AAAAAAAAANY/HRFKCD1eACk/s320/tar1.jpg

libertyjam
03-11-2013, 02:57 PM
Hey Mayor Bloom-Stassi-berg,





http://iconicphotos.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/johnny-cash-finger-2.jpg?w=700



You ___ing Statist Gnat Turd!

Ranger29860
03-11-2013, 03:01 PM
I read the above article, which didn't mention that. I also tried to read through the legalese of the actual decision. What did you read for fun today?

lol im in the same boat...I TRIED to get through all the decision but way to much for me on an empty stomach.

Occam's Banana
03-11-2013, 03:25 PM
But ... but ... what are the Cup Size Nazis supposed to do with all their 17-oz. cups, now ... ?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?407092-New-York-City-restaurant-inspectors-will-now-be-armed-with-17-ounce-cups

presence
03-11-2013, 05:50 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57573654/judge-shoots-down-nyc-ban-of-sugary-drinks-larger-than-16-ounces-day-before-law-set-to-take-effect/


New York Supreme Court Judge Milton Tingling ruled Monday that the city may not enforce the new regulation, CBS New York reported Monday afternoon. The ban, which was set to take place Tuesday, applied to sugary drinks larger than 16 ounces sold at restaurants, fast food establishments, delis, sports venues and movie theaters. The limits do not apply to milk-based and alcoholic beverages sold at these eateries. Also exempt are sugar-sweetened drinks sold at grocery stories and convenience stores.


Tingling said loopholes in the regulations defeated the limit's stated purpose.


"It is arbitrary and capricious because it applies to some but not all food establishments in the City, it excludes other beverages that have significantly higher concentrations of sugar sweeteners and/or calories on suspect grounds, the loopholes inherent in the Rule, including but not limited to limitations on re-fills, defeat and/or serve to gut the purpose of the Rule," Tingling wrote in his ruling.

malkusm
03-11-2013, 06:07 PM
*chugs a 2-liter to celebrate*

tangent4ronpaul
03-12-2013, 05:19 AM
http://www.chron.com/news/medical/article/Mayor-vows-to-press-on-after-NYC-soda-rule-nixed-4346796.php

NEW YORK (AP) — Eateries from corner delis to movie concession stands have gotten a last-minute reprieve from the nation's first ban on big sugary drinks. But Mayor Michael Bloomberg is urging them to shrink their cups and bottles, anyway.

Hours after a judge struck down the 16-ounce size limit for sodas and some other sweet drinks as arbitrary and outside city health regulators' purview, Bloomberg defended it as a groundbreaking anti-obesity effort and all but challenged businesses to comply out of concern for their customers.

"If you know what you're doing is harmful to people's health, common sense says if you care, you might want to stop doing that," he said.

Besides, he said, the city expects to win on appeal.

It was a sign of how aggressively Bloomberg sees the city's role in pushing New Yorkers to improve their health habits and nudging other cities to do likewise. But it remains to be seen whether the city that was first to compel chain restaurants to post calorie counts and bar artificial trans fats in restaurant food will ultimately prevail in capping soda portions.

For now, though, the ruling it means the ax won't fall Tuesday on supersized sodas, sweetened teas and other high-sugar beverages in restaurants, hot dog carts, arenas and even coffee shops.

The rule has sparked reaction from pizzeria counters to late-night talk shows, celebrated by some as a bold attempt to improve people's health and derided by others as another "nanny state" law from Bloomberg during his 11 years in office.

On the "Late Show with David Letterman" Monday night, Bloomberg defended the ban but he also joked about his own "addiction."

"As long as you don't ban Cheez-Its," he said. "Cheese-Its are OK. That's my addiction."

Jose Perez, a special education teacher, said Monday as he got a can of soda and a hot dog from a street vendor, "Really, I think it's just big government getting in the way of people's rights.

"I think it's up to the person," he said. "If they want to have a giant soda, that's their business."

Monday's ruling came just hours before the restriction was to take effect, handing a victory to the beverage industry, restaurants and other business groups that called the rule unfair and wrong-headed.

"The court ruling provides a sigh of relief to New Yorkers and thousands of small businesses in New York City that would have been harmed by this arbitrary and unpopular ban," the American Beverage Association and other opponents said.

State Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling said the restriction was arbitrary because it applies to only some sugary beverages and some places that sell them. For various reasons, it doesn't cover alcoholic drinks or many lattes and other milk-based concoctions. Nor does it doesn't apply at supermarkets or many convenience stores — including 7-Eleven, home of the Big Gulp.

"The loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the stated purpose," Tingling wrote in a 36-page ruling that examined the scope of power that should be afforded an administrative board for regulations.

Tingling, a Democrat elected to the trial court bench in 2001, said the Bloomberg-appointed Board of Health intruded on the elected City Council's authority when it imposed the rule. He cited in part a case from the 1980s which questioned whether a state public health council had the authority to regulate smoking in public places.

The appeal likely will turn on whether a higher court "feels that the mayor has gone too far in ruling by decree in bypassing City Council," said Rick Hills, a New York University law professor who has been following the case.

In defending the rule, city officials point to the city's rising obesity rate — about 24 percent of adults, up from 18 percent in 2002 — and to studies tying sugary drinks to weight gain.

The judge acknowledged the impact of obesity on the city's residents, and noted that those bringing suit likewise didn't dispute obesity is a significant health issue, but questioned how much sugary drinks can be blamed for it. Ultimately Tingling said whether the issue of obesity is an epidemic is not the key issue here, but whether the board of health has the jurisdiction to decide that obesity is such an issue that it could issue a cap on consumption of sugary drinks.

The judge found that the regulation was "laden with exceptions based on economic and political concern."

Critics said the measure was too limited to have a meaningful effect on New Yorkers' waistlines. And they said it would take a bite out of business for the establishments that had to comply, while others still could sell sugary drinks in 2-liter bottles and supersized cups.

While some eateries held off making changes because of the court challenge, some restaurants had begun using smaller glasses for full-sugar soda. Dunkin' Donuts shops have been telling customers they will have to sweeten and flavor their own coffee. Coca-Cola has printed posters explaining the rules.

Frames Bowling Lounge, a bowling alley and upscale bar in Manhattan, developed — and is keeping — a slate of fresh-squeezed juices as an alternative to pitchers of sodas for family parties. That entailed investing staff time, buying new glasses and changing menus, executive general manager Ayman Kamel said.

"All that cost a lot of money, but you have to go with the flow," he said, and customers have started calling about the new juices.

"We're all very excited about it," he said.

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torchbearer
03-12-2013, 06:30 AM
All that cost a lot of money, but you have to go with the flow," he said, and customers have started calling about the new juices.

"We're all very excited about it," he said.

how does someone that retarded end up a manager at a bar inside a bowling alley?
and is that the only person they could find to lick bloomberg's nutsack?

ItsTime
03-12-2013, 06:33 AM
Any good reports that are not full of propaganda?

tangent4ronpaul
03-12-2013, 07:18 AM
Any good reports that are not full of propaganda?

New York City Soda Ban Health Fallout: Bloomberg's Legislation Struck Down... Now What?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/12/new-york-city-soda-ban-bloomberg-loses-judge_n_2856642.html

If all had gone according to NYC Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg's plan, today would have been the first day without super-sized beverages.

Known as the "soda ban," Bloomberg's legislation put a cap on the number of ounces of sugary, calorie-laden drinks available for sale in the city. If it hadn't been struck down, restaurants, fast food joints, pizza parlors, movie theaters and bars would currently be unable to sell more than 16 ounce containers of sugary drinks that have more than 25 calories per ounce. That means: sodas, energy drinks, sports drinks, juice drinks, slushies and smoothies, among other beverages. Exceptions include alcohol and milk-based drinks.

But in a last-minute ruling, State Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling dismissed the law, explaining that the New York City's Board of Health lacked the jurisdiction to enforce it. He further went on to find that the rule was "arbitrary and capricious" -- that it did not accomplish what it set out to do. Or, as HuffPost Live host (and resident legal expert) Mike Sacks put it, "law-speak for too stupid to be legal."

Tingling made clear that the city's Board of Health was only meant to intervene "when the City is facing eminent danger due to disease," he wrote in the decision. "That has not been demonstrated herein."

But the mayor disagreed with this assessment, suggesting that actually obesity is an eminent danger. "The best science tells us that sugary drinks are a leading cause of obesity," Bloomberg said during a press conference in which he revealed that he would appeal the decision. "It would be irresponsible not to try everything we can to save lives, he went on. Adding later, "People are dying every day-- this is not a joke, this is about real lives."

What's more, the mayor explained, the disadvantaged were disproportionately affected: "Higher consumption of full sugar drinks leads to obesity and that happens much worse in poorer neighborhoods."

Indeed, research in the NYC Community Health Surveys finds that city residents who live below the federal poverty line are twice as likely to be obese as those who live in households with income at least six times the poverty line. And sugary drink consumption was highest among those who were obese or overweight.

The city's survey also found that those who live in households with an income of twice the poverty level or less (in other words, seriously poor individuals) were more likely to drink at least 12 ounces of sugary beverage per day than were those living above the poverty level.

Overall, 27.5 percent of city residents drink more than 12 ounces of sugary beverages per day. Nationally, the CDC reports that soda consumption makes up 11 percent of children and teenagers' calories and about nine percent of adults' calories -- that's 224 extra calories per day.

There's no question that sugary beverages are a contributing factor to ill health, but the question remains: would capping portion sizes truly work?

The best research we have suggests yes: a 2011 study in Obesity found that people who were given an unlimited portion of soup -- via an auto-refilling bowl -- ate more soup and underestimated how much they ate, when compared to a control group who ate from a bowl that emptied, even though both groups had equal access to an unlimited amount. The research suggests that a lack of apportioning both encourages overconsumption and prevents people from estimating how much they have eaten. Of course, to make a direct comparison, similar work would need to be done using sugary drinks instead of savory broth.

Bloomberg vowed to appeal the decision, while many New York City establishments are voluntarily enacting the restriction, including the Barclays Center.

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tangent4ronpaul
03-12-2013, 07:33 AM
BEST ARTICLE I'VE FOUND!!!


New York Soda Size Limit Statute Barred by State Judge
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-11/new-york-city-soda-size-limitations-barred-by-state-court-judge.html

New York City’s ban on large-size soda drinks won’t take effect as planned today after a state judge blocked the measure as improperly enacted and arbitrary in its effects, handing a victory to industry groups including the American Beverage Association.

The city’s Board of Health in September approved Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s plan to cap the size of sugary soft drinks sold in restaurants, movie theaters, stadiums and arenas at 16 ounces (473 milliliters) a cup. In October, groups representing beverage makers, restaurants and theaters asked a state court to quash the regulation, calling it “unprecedented interference” with consumer choice.

New York Supreme Court Justice Milton Tingling in Manhattan approved the groups’ request yesterday, issuing a permanent injunction barring the city from implementing the plan. The city said it will appeal the ruling, which also held the law violated the separation of powers because the city council, not the mayor, should promulgate such measures.

“The loopholes in this rule effectively defeat the stated purpose,” Tingling wrote. “It is arbitrary and capricious because it applies to some but not all food establishments in the city, it excludes other beverages that have significantly higher concentrations of sugar sweeteners and/or calories on specific grounds and the loopholes inherent in the rule, including but not limited to no limitations on refills, defeat and/or serve to gut the purpose of the rule.”
Overreaching, Ignored

The plaintiffs said the city had overreached and ignored the rights of New Yorkers to make their own choices. The plan is “grossly unfair” to small businesses such as street-food vendors and pizzerias because convenience and grocery stores can still sell the larger sizes, lawyers for the groups told Tingling.

The city argued it’s trying to stem an epidemic of obesity driven by consumption of sugary beverages, which is rising because food establishments sell ever-larger portions. Under the rule, consumers are free to buy an unlimited number of smaller drinks and get refills.

“We are confident the board of health’s decision will ultimately be upheld,” Michael A. Cardozo, corporation counsel of New York City’s Law Department, said in a statement. “The board of health has the legal authority -- and the responsibility -- to tackle” the leading causes of a “growing obesity epidemic.” The mayor is the majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News.
Ordered Restrictions

The board of health last year ordered the restrictions. Food-service establishments would have had three months to comply; after that, they would have faced a $200 fine each time a city inspector found violations. The ban wouldn’t have applied to convenience stores, bodegas and groceries, which are regulated by the state.

“Without a portion cap on sugary drinks, it would be harder to tackle an obesity epidemic that kills more New Yorkers than anything other than smoking and causes misery for many thousands more who suffer from heart disease, diabetes and other debilitating illnesses,” New York City Health Commissioner Thomas Farley said in a statement. “Sugary drinks are a leading cause of this epidemic. Yesterday’s decision threatens the health of New Yorkers, but we are confident that we will win on appeal.”
Administration Hallmark

Since taking office in 2002, Bloomberg, 71, has made public health a hallmark of his administration. He’s banned artery- clogging trans-fat food additives and workplace smoking; raised tobacco taxes; increased testing for HIV, cholesterol and blood pressure; and required restaurant chains to post the calorie content of menu items.

The mayor, a Republican-turned-independent, said such actions have raised life expectancy in the city to almost 81 for babies born in 2010, 2.2 years more than the national average.

“There’s one public health crisis that has grown worse over the years and that is obesity” Bloomberg said yesterday at a news conference. “If we are serious about fighting obesity we have to be honest about what causes it and we have to have the courage to tackle it head on.”

Bloomberg, calling the decision “clearly in error,” said he was confident it would be overturned by a higher court.

“If lower court rulings had always stood, Grand Central Terminal would have been knocked down 40 years ago,” he said.

Other U.S. municipalities are also seeking to cut consumption of sugared drinks.
Junk Food

Boston barred sweetened soda and junk food from school vending machines in 2004, and Mayor Thomas Menino last year ordered a phased sugar-drink ban in all municipal buildings and city-sponsored events. San Francisco and Los Angeles County have also acted to reduce sugared-drink consumption in buildings, according to Harvard University’s School of Public Health.

“Strong evidence indicates that our rising thirst for ‘liquid candy’ has been a major contributor to the obesity and diabetes epidemics,” the public-health school reported on its website.

Theater owners, restaurants, beverage companies, bottlers, unions, Korean-American grocers and the state’s Hispanic Chambers of Commerce joined in the lawsuit, arguing that the board of health lacks authority to institute the ban. They sought the injunction to block the measure from taking effect pending trial on the issue.

Coca-Cola Co. (KO), the world’s largest soft-drink maker, and PepsiCo Inc. (PEP), the second-largest, referred calls for comment on the ruling to the American Beverage Association, a trade group for the non-alcoholic beverage industry representing hundreds of producers, distributors, franchises and support industries.
Industry Costs

Chris Gindlesperger, a spokesman for the Washington-based group, one of the plaintiffs, had said the ban would have cost local bottlers and distributors at least $790,000 combined to retool, remold, re-label and restock.

Yesterday, his group said in a statement that the ruling “provides a sigh of relief to New Yorkers and thousands of small businesses in New York City that would have been harmed by this arbitrary and unpopular ban.”

Scott DeFife, the National Restaurant Association’s executive vice president for government affairs, said in an affidavit that fast-food and sit-down eateries would have had to buy tens of thousands of new cups and glasses.

The city’s 52 movie theater owners and their audiences would have paid more as well, said Robert Sunshine, executive director for New York state at the Washington-based National Association of Theatre Owners. Soda accounts for 20 percent of theater profits and 98 percent of such sales come in servings of more than 16 ounces, he said.
‘Sharing Sodas’

“Sharing sodas and other concessions also helps to keep the movie-going experience affordable,” he said in a court- filed affidavit.

The proposed ban has been hard to swallow for many New Yorkers as well.

A Feb. 28 Quinnipiac University poll found that city voters oppose it, 51 percent to 46 percent, with a 3.1 percentage-point error margin. A lobbying group backed by consumers and industry executives, New Yorkers for Beverage Choices, orchestrated a series of protests at City Hall last year.

Since the provision was introduced in June, the mayor has referred to it as a serving-size suggestion, not a ban. Everyone remains free to refill or buy more drinks, as long as none is larger than 16 ounces, he has said.
‘Food Manufacturer’

“Every food manufacturer and soft-drink manufacturer, they have portion control,” the mayor said during a March 10 appearance on CBS News’s “Face the Nation.” “What they’re trying to do is maximize their profits, and what government’s trying to do is to inform you that if you’re overweight and you have all these empty calories and you keep eating, your health is going to suffer.”

At McDonalds Corp. (MCD) restaurants, 42-ounce “super-size” beverages were discontinued in 2004, reducing the hamburger chain’s largest drink size to 32 ounces. That contrasts with the 7-ounce cups that were the only size McDonald’s offered in 1955, the city health department said in materials supporting the size restriction.

A 32-ounce cup of a cola-favored drink contains 374 calories and 102 grams, or about 26 teaspoons, of sugar, the department said.

McDonald’s had said it intended to limit its sweetened drinks’ maximum size to 16-ounce cups, said Cheryll Forsatz, the company’s spokeswoman for the New York region.
Nutritional Choices

“We also provide our customers nutritional information through multiple means to help them make the choices that are best for them,” she said in an e-mail.

Sugary drinks add about 200 calories a day to the average person’s diet, contributing to obesity that in New York accounts for 5,800 deaths, including 1,700 from diabetes; 1,400 cases of end-stage kidney disease; and 2,600 amputations costing $4 billion a year, said Susan Kansagra, who heads the chronic- disease prevention and tobacco-control unit of the Health Department.

Fifty-eight percent of adult New Yorkers and 40 percent of public-school students are overweight or obese. Ten percent of adults have been diagnosed with diabetes, she said.

Yesterday’s ruling “unmasks Mayor Bloomberg’s misguided soda ban policy for what it is: a cosmetic solution to a complex problem,” said William Thompson, a former city comptroller and one of five Democrats seeking the party’s mayoral nomination this year.

The mayor should have focused on encouraging physical fitness and voluntary diet improvements, Thompson said.

“To solve the serious health challenge of our city, we need leadership, not gimmicks,” he said.

The case is New York Statewide Coalition of Hispanic Chambers of Commerce v. New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, 653584-2012, New York State Supreme Court, New York County (Manhattan).

To contact the reporter on this story: Chris Dolmetsch in New York State Supreme Court in Manhattan at cdolmetsch@bloomberg.net; Henry Goldman in New York City Hall at hgoldman@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Michael Hytha at mhytha@bloomberg.net; Stephen Merelman at smerelman@bloomberg.net.

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BAllen
03-12-2013, 08:06 AM
http://www.chron.com/news/medical/article/Mayor-vows-to-press-on-after-NYC-soda-rule-nixed-4346796.php

"If you know what you're doing is harmful to your slaves' health, common sense says if you care, you might want to stop doing that," he said.


Fixed it.

seraphson
03-12-2013, 09:06 AM
"If you know what you're doing is harmful to people's health, common sense says if you care, you might want to stop doing that," he said.

Bloomberg is the absolute epitome, and I mean the paramount figure of the humanitarian with a guillotine. (http://mises.org/daily/2739)

If you know what you're doing is harmful to people's inalienable rights, common sense says if you care, you might want to stop being a tyrant.

jclay2
03-12-2013, 10:15 AM
Bloomberg is the absolute epitome, and I mean the paramount figure of the humanitarian with a guillotine. (http://mises.org/daily/2739)

If you know what you're doing is harmful to people's inalienable rights, common sense says if you care, you might want to stop being a tyrant.

It is all a series of trial balloons to see how much power and control bloomberg has over the general population in New York. He is high from power. He basically has a private army with the NYPD. He has all the money in the world, but the one thing he can't have (right now) is the freedom of others. That is why he is so hell bent on taking simple things like the ability to buy a soda away. I wouldn't doubt it if the man worships himself and/or satan. Nothing else explains his sickoning behvior to control others.

Czolgosz
03-12-2013, 10:23 AM
This only delays revolution.

presence
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
THREAD: Judge Blocks NYC Soda Ban In 11th Hour (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?407208-Judge-Blocks-NYC-Soda-Ban-In-11th-Hour&highlight=ban+nyc+drinks)


merge?

VBRonPaulFan
03-12-2013, 11:11 AM
if Bloomberg gave half a shit, he'd focus on lobbying to end subsidies to corn farmers that essentially make it so cheap to load up drinks with HFCS. but he doesn't give a shit, he just wants to exert his influence over the city. that guy is a huge piece of shit, i can't believe the people of NYC even put up with his retarded ass.