View Full Version : at the market yesterday - A liberal is converted to Rand Paul
wetroof
03-09-2013, 11:30 AM
There is a cashier who always wears an Obama / Biden pin on his store vest so I can't help but have a little disdain for him. Yesterday he wasn't wearing it. I walk up to get in line behind a couple that he is serving. He is talking to them - I don't remember about what - and then he says "our freedoms are precious" in a forceful way - but in a way you could interject into almost any conversation and people would take it jovially. After that my ears are perked up; I know he is the Obama pin guy - I realize he's not wearing the pin today - I start wondering what "freedom" means to this socialist. The husband of the couple mentions credit cards and that he freed himself from plastic years ago. There is a few comments made about banks being bad. As the couple is getting their bags, the cashier tells them " you know, the whole government needs to be dismantled in my opinion" again in a forceful way. What! I think I am probably grinning. It gets a awkward-laugh out of them. Then he asks "Did you see Rand Paul's Filibuster Yesterday?" He is enthusiastic. The couple says they heard about it. then he describes to them about our drone policy, the husband asks a few questions, and the cashier says he will update them on the results of the filibuster, and they leave.
So, Rand Paul's filibuster got a complete convert of a liberal to the libertarian side. The cashier told me he threw the Obama pin in the garbage. I can't quite reason how it happened. I didn't want to press on the issue of his change in convictions... just mostly told him that I like Rand Paul too.
The Northbreather
03-09-2013, 11:59 AM
Like Ron says, PEACE, PROSPERITY and LIBERTY are popular.
Sometimes people only need too be reminded. I know I for one did.
Great story.
economics102
03-09-2013, 02:13 PM
As Ron Paul says, truth, once heard, can never be unheard.
I have been able to have some very positive conversations with liberals as a result of this filibuster. It opened up an opportunity for me to talk about what we do with the drones overseas and how horrible it is. And it provided an avenue for liberals who were anti-war and pro-civil liberties during the Bush era to walk back from the brink and concede that Obama's policies are in fact very much like Bush's and should be opposed.
As Rand said at one point during his filibuster, "where is the Barack Obama of 2007? I admired him. I believe Senator Obama would have been standing here with me today in this filibuster."
kcchiefs6465
03-09-2013, 02:19 PM
As Ron Paul says, truth, once heard, can never be unheard.
I have been able to have some very positive conversations with liberals as a result of this filibuster. It opened up an opportunity for me to talk about what we do with the drones overseas and how horrible it is. And it provided an avenue for liberals who were anti-war and pro-civil liberties during the Bush era to walk back from the brink and concede that Obama's policies are in fact very much like Bush's and should be opposed.
As Rand said at one point during his filibuster, "where is the Barack Obama of 2007? I admired him. I believe Senator Obama would have been standing here with me today in this filibuster."
Unfortunately. I'd rather be able to talk about something other than politics and the usurptions of our rights myself.
PursuePeace
03-09-2013, 02:27 PM
There is a cashier who always wears an Obama / Biden pin on his store vest so I can't help but have a little disdain for him. Yesterday he wasn't wearing it. I walk up to get in line behind a couple that he is serving. He is talking to them - I don't remember about what - and then he says "our freedoms are precious" in a forceful way - but in a way you could interject into almost any conversation and people would take it jovially. After that my ears are perked up; I know he is the Obama pin guy - I realize he's not wearing the pin today - I start wondering what "freedom" means to this socialist. The husband of the couple mentions credit cards and that he freed himself from plastic years ago. There is a few comments made about banks being bad. As the couple is getting their bags, the cashier tells them " you know, the whole government needs to be dismantled in my opinion" again in a forceful way. What! I think I am probably grinning. It gets a awkward-laugh out of them. Then he asks "Did you see Rand Paul's Filibuster Yesterday?" He is enthusiastic. The couple says they heard about it. then he describes to them about our drone policy, the husband asks a few questions, and the cashier says he will update them on the results of the filibuster, and they leave.
So, Rand Paul's filibuster got a complete convert of a liberal to the libertarian side. The cashier told me he threw the Obama pin in the garbage. I can't quite reason how it happened. I didn't want to press on the issue of his change in convictions... just mostly told him that I like Rand Paul too.
That's awesome.
bunklocoempire
03-09-2013, 02:31 PM
Truth gets out, truth wins!
dannno
03-09-2013, 02:34 PM
The cashier told me he threw the Obama pin in the garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ
Liberty74
03-09-2013, 03:35 PM
Most people are LIBERTARIANS yet don't really know it.
They need to be shown the way... :p
ItsTime
03-09-2013, 04:23 PM
Truth is liberating.
alucard13mmfmj
03-09-2013, 04:31 PM
hope rand doesnt peak too early.
Mr.NoSmile
03-09-2013, 04:56 PM
Run with me on this, but I like the idea, from a PR standpoint, of taking the words of liberals who have praised Rand Paul- Jon Stewart, Arianna Huffington, John Cusack asking where liberals were during the filibuster- and using that to push the message that those on the left are seeing that Democrats don't stand for all civil liberties. It would expose hypocrisy, but at the same time, show how the filibuster and Paul's efforts won encouragement from the left.
The problem with this is that people on the left would ask where the right is on other social issues. I already read a comment about where the right would be for the rights of gays and immigrants, and this is where the GOP would be hurt, as many of them are still behind the times and don't realize that embracing them, rather than pushing them away, would help them out a lot.
dinosaur
03-09-2013, 05:57 PM
hope rand doesnt peak too early.
He is going to have to stay one step ahead for a long time, but I think the early start was necessary in order to prevent the media from propping up someone else too much.
hope rand doesnt peak too early.
Peaking is much more of a problem for candidates who are 99% lies, not necessarily those who can get true believers rather than flavor of the month tasters. Look how Ron had high resilience to losing his peaks whenever he got them in 2008 and 2012. In my opinion early peaking for Rand will just build another plateau upon which to stand even higher.
Matthew5
03-09-2013, 10:53 PM
hope rand doesnt peak too early.
That would only happen if Obama were to reverse his current trajectory of totalitarianism. I doubt that fuel source will dry up, so it's Rand's to lose in my opinion.
amy31416
03-09-2013, 10:59 PM
This story doesn't sound fake to anyone else?
AuH20
03-09-2013, 11:00 PM
That would only happen if Obama were to reverse his current trajectory of totalitarianism. I doubt that fuel source will dry up, so it's Rand's to lose in my opinion.
That's a great point. Obama keeps Paul relevant and not extreme.
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