NJ - Fake cop demands sex from woman. She complies...

[Anti Federalist]

Pretty fucking speechless at this point...


Man impersonates a police officer in Fairfield hotel room, demands sex

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/03/man_impersonates_a_police_offi.html#incart_river_d efault

FAIRFIELD — A Garfield man who allegedly impersonated a police officer to force a woman to have sex with him was arrested today at his home, officials said.

On Tuesday, Joseph Lipham, 40, met the woman in a hotel room on Two Bridges Road in Fairfield where he identified himself as a police officer, Deputy Police Chief Anthony Manna said.

After entering the room, he is believed to have told the victim he was going to arrest her unless she had sexual relations with him, Manna said.

Fearing arrest, the woman complied, Manna said. When he left, the victim contacted someone she knew who was in the hotel parking lot, who wrote down the license plate of Lipham’s vehicle.

He is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail at the Fairfield jail, Manna said.

[TywinLannister]

haha this reminds me of an old porno I saw on VHS. Ron Jeremy was playing a cop and caught these bikers doing something illegal and made the biker chicks... do things to him. I think he was supposed to be a real cop. But he looked pretty fake.

[Anti Federalist]

haha this reminds me of an old porno I saw on VHS. Ron Jeremy was playing a cop and caught these bikers doing something illegal and made the biker chicks... do things to him. I think he was supposed to be a real cop. But he looked pretty fake.

That reminds me, did the HedgeHog make it?

I know he was pretty sick a few weeks back.

[TywinLannister]

That reminds me, did the HedgeHog make it?

I know he was pretty sick a few weeks back.

LOS ANGELES—Adult actor and pop culture icon Ron Jeremy has been released from the hospital, almost three weeks after undergoing emergency surgeries for a heart aneurysm.

Jeremy reportedly showed off his surgical scar on his chest, to reporters from the New York Daily News, adding, “I came very close to death. I guess I have a very, very strong will to live.”

The AVN Hall of Famer, who has appeared in more than 2,000 movies throughout his 30-plus years career, drove himself to Cedars-Sinai earlier this month after experiencing chest pains and underwent two surgeries the next day for a heart aneurysm. He was intubated and unconscious for several days, but is reportedly well on the road to recovery now. He even told reporters he has plans to change his eating habits, and has lost 45 pounds since being admitted to the hospital.

“Eating healthy food is depressing, but it’s keeping me alive,” he said. “My dad is 94 and still going strong. He got mad at me for this. He jokes that he and my mom gave me the perfect body, and I screwed it up.”

The 59-year-old, known as “The Hedgehog,” is one of the most recognizable adult performers ever, and his health crisis received worldwide attention.

[coastie]

That reminds me, did the HedgeHog make it?

I know he was pretty sick a few weeks back.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/ron-jeremy-cleared-for-sex_n_2742239.html

The Hedgehog can finally hedge his hog again.

After nearly a month in a Los Angeles hospital, legendary porn star Ron Jeremy has been cleared to have sex.

The pudgy, hirsute star of such of titles as "21 Hump Street" and "What's Butt Got To Do With It" was sidelined last month by an aneurysm near his heart, requiring a long, hard stint in the clinic, which left his show business career flaccid. But doctors have now given him the go ahead to do what he is most famous for, TMZ reports.

"They said to me at the clinic, that if you can walk up two flights of stairs you're able to have sex," he told the site. "So I walked up two flights of stairs and three additional stairs."


The Hedgehog is back, sir....

[Anti Federalist]

which left his show business career flaccid

http://i.imgur.com/TDwk5NI.gif

[coastie]

Pretty fucking speechless at this point...


Man impersonates a police officer in Fairfield hotel room, demands sex

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2013/03/man_impersonates_a_police_offi.html#incart_river_d efault

FAIRFIELD — A Garfield man who allegedly impersonated a police officer to force a woman to have sex with him was arrested today at his home, officials said.

On Tuesday, Joseph Lipham, 40, met the woman in a hotel room on Two Bridges Road in Fairfield where he identified himself as a police officer, Deputy Police Chief Anthony Manna said.

After entering the room, he is believed to have told the victim he was going to arrest her unless she had sexual relations with him, Manna said.

Fearing arrest, the woman complied, Manna said. When he left, the victim contacted someone she knew who was in the hotel parking lot, who wrote down the license plate of Lipham’s vehicle.

He is being held in lieu of $100,000 bail at the Fairfield jail, Manna said.

Ok...wait.

1. Why the fuck are you meeting some random dude in hotel room, and not expect to have sex with him, and :

2: Really? Are people that fucking stupid to believe that a night in jail is somehow worse than having sex w/ some random dude in a hotel room to avoid jail time? Or, are people that fucking stupid to believe this even possible in America...that you can have sex with a cop and avoid jail for.........what???

Sorry, my sympathy meter is at -50 for this dumb chick.

[aGameOfThrones]

He was role-playing... He just didn't tell her.

[CPUd]

Most people have a subconscious desire to gain the approval of an authority figure, even if it goes against one's 'normal' sense of right and wrong (see the Milgram Experiment).

If you want to see a really wild case, check this film:

http://i.imgur.com/lQiFCn3.jpg

After you see it, look for the original video (it's on LiveLeak somewhere) and news reports from about 7 or 8 yrs ago.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Ok...wait.

1. Why the fuck are you meeting some random dude in hotel room, and not expect to have sex with him, and :

2: Really? Are people that fucking stupid to believe that a night in jail is somehow worse than having sex w/ some random dude in a hotel room to avoid jail time? Or, are people that fucking stupid to believe this even possible in America...that you can have sex with a cop and avoid jail for.........what???

Sorry, my sympathy meter is at -50 for this dumb chick.


My best guess is that she was a prostitute, so she did intend to have sex with him. Then he decided to steal services through deception.

I've heard of plenty of instances where women will have sex with cops to avoid arrest. I personally view them as victims of said police. It's an unethical offer for a cop to offer or accept.

[ghengis86]

My best guess is that she was a prostitute, so she did intend to have sex with him. Then he decided to steal services through deception.

I've heard of plenty of instances where women will have sex with cops to avoid arrest. I personally view them as victims of said police. It's an unethical offer for a cop to offer or accept.

Bingo! She meets a Jon for sex. He says he's a cop and will arrest her for soliciting and since she's probably been pinched before and has a record, doesn't want a potential lengthier stay. So she abides and doesn't charge for her service. She thinks it's odd and senses the guy is just a cheap bastard and knows a lot of people at the hotel being that it is her regular place of business and has one write down the dudes plate.

Stupid fucker; you always pay for it one way or another. Ain't nothing free in this life

[Todd]

Most people have a subconscious desire to gain the approval of an authority figure, even if it goes against one's 'normal' sense of right and wrong (see the Milgram Experiment).

If you want to see a really wild case, check this film:

http://i.imgur.com/lQiFCn3.jpg

After you see it, look for the original video (it's on LiveLeak somewhere) and news reports from about 7 or 8 yrs ago.


beat me to it. I saw this over the weekend. Pretty pathetic that it was completely true. And that this type of trick fooled people about 70 other times.

Real interview and video of incident.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFXeXK3szOk

[Napolitanic Wars]

I think what makes this story unique is that it wasn't a real cop.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Most people have a subconscious desire to gain the approval of an authority figure, even if it goes against one's 'normal' sense of right and wrong (see the Milgram Experiment).

If you want to see a really wild case, check this film:

http://i.imgur.com/lQiFCn3.jpg

After you see it, look for the original video (it's on LiveLeak somewhere) and news reports from about 7 or 8 yrs ago.

http://watch32.com/movies-online/compliance-1832

-t

[Nirvikalpa]

Ok...wait.

1. Why the fuck are you meeting some random dude in hotel room, and not expect to have sex with him,

Sorry, my sympathy meter is at -50 for this dumb chick.

Holy shit, are you fucking kidding me? You know nothing about "how they met in a hotel room" are are already implying she invited him there? For all we know, he could have knocked on her door after watching her enter the hotel room from the parking lot, and presented a fake badge...

Sympathy is at -50 for a woman who was taken complete advantage of... yet if it was a real cop taking advantage of someone, it's suddenly the worse thing in the world?


2: Really? Are people that fucking stupid to believe that a night in jail is somehow worse than having sex w/ some random dude in a hotel room to avoid jail time?

Perhaps she had a kid at home, or some other unforeseen thing that clouded her judgement? Perhaps he had a knife, or a firearm?

Not like NJ makes it easy for you to fucking defend yourself... :rolleyes:

Edit: For the record...


After entering the room, he is believed to have told the victim he was going to arrest her unless she had sexual relations with him, Manna said.

[PaulConventionWV]

Ok...wait.

1. Why the fuck are you meeting some random dude in hotel room, and not expect to have sex with him, and :

2: Really? Are people that fucking stupid to believe that a night in jail is somehow worse than having sex w/ some random dude in a hotel room to avoid jail time? Or, are people that fucking stupid to believe this even possible in America...that you can have sex with a cop and avoid jail for.........what???

Sorry, my sympathy meter is at -50 for this dumb chick.

I can see it happening. First of all, I don't think she intentionally met him there. He came to her. Secondly, it all depends on your standards. Some women would rather have sex than spend a night in jail and that's up to their discretion. It's not like sex necessarily has to be so bad that you can't make that kind of trade-off. She obviously thought it was worth it. And yes, the way cops are these days, you can get arrested for just about anything. The whole point of this story is just to show you the amount of intimidation that cops now carry with them.

[VBRonPaulFan]

My best guess is that she was a prostitute, so she did intend to have sex with him. Then he decided to steal services through deception.

I've heard of plenty of instances where women will have sex with cops to avoid arrest. I personally view them as victims of said police. It's an unethical offer for a cop to offer or accept.

This is the most likely scenario in my opinion. Either a prostitute or an 'escort', although there generally isn't much difference between the two except for the facade they put on.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

This is the most likely scenario in my opinion. Either a prostitute or an 'escort', although there generally isn't much difference between the two except for the facade they put on.


Had this been a real cop, I'm certain they would have mentioned such a detail to discredit the victim.

[Anti Federalist]

The only reason this story stood out was the compliance aspect.

The stunning compliance to an authority figure, regardless of who this woman was or why she was there.

It obviously was not consensual.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

The only reason this story stood out was the compliance aspect.

The stunning compliance to an authority figure, regardless of who this woman was or why she was there.

It obviously was not consensual.


If my hypothesis is true, it was not compliance to authority, but a response to a direct verbal threat of state backed violence. I think there is a distinction to be made there.

[Czolgosz]

I think what makes this story unique is that it wasn't a real cop.

lol, true.

[Fivezeroes]

I'm sure you guys already know this.... but for the love of god, don't talk to a cop. And if you must, be insistent on seeing his badge and confirming his or her badge number. Most cops see it as a sign of disrespect so when they ask why you need it, just tell them you want to make sure that they are indeed police officers.

I've been asked for my badge number on more than one occasion and it is our departments policy that if asked, we have to give them the number. Don't even let a cop tell you otherwise.

[PaulConventionWV]

If my hypothesis is true, it was not compliance to authority, but a response to a direct verbal threat of state backed violence. I think there is a distinction to be made there.

That's basically the definition of authority.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

That's basically the definition of authority.


Ok, I should have said compliance to "authority figures" since that's what I was responding to. (see the context.) Compliance to "authority figures" is shit like putting up with TSA searches or illegal checkpoints or having sex with a predatory priest or teacher.

Doing what a cop says so he doesn't beat the living shit out of you is a response to a direct verbal threat of state backed violence. Those are different things.

[CPUd]

Ok, I should have said compliance to "authority figures" since that's what I was responding to. (see the context.) Compliance to "authority figures" is shit like putting up with TSA searches or illegal checkpoints or having sex with a predatory priest or teacher.

Doing what a cop says so he doesn't beat the living shit out of you is a response to a direct verbal threat of state backed violence. Those are different things.

The outward reasoning is only part of the picture. There's also a subconscious aspect, where the person does things to seek approval from a perceived authority. A group of peers on (what is perceived to be) equal footing can establish similar authority:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJA

Edit: I reread and see the distinction you made, I would guess the psychological term for it would be "fight or flight"

In the cases at the fast food restaurants, there did exist a direct threat of violence, but it was about more than just being arrested- he actually convinced the girl to submit to violence because he told her that the guy in the room with her disapproved with her attitude.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Essentially, the Milgram Experiment(s) is different from viable threat of arrest - and that can be true even with similar actors involved.

[Christian Liberty]

I don't think strict libertarian principle allows me to demand the execution of anyone who is not guilty of murder, but I'd really like to see authoritarian balls of vomit like this dead. At the very least, I'd pardon the man who kilked him.

The reality is in this country if you defend yourself against a cop, even if justified, the screwed up system is gonna believe the cop. This guy happened to be a fake, but if he was a real cop he would have made up a lie and gotten away with this.

These people deserve to suffer, die, and burn in Hell. Any fellow Christian Libertarians reserve the right to neg rep me or quote something about love or something to argue against this statement, but honestly that's what I feel that these people deserve. I have little sympathy for criminals (Real ones, "Victimless crimes" are a different story) but I have absolutely none when they do it while hiding behind Leviathan. Honestly, I think doing something like this while hiding behind Leviathan is worse than killing someone but being willing to do it without hidind behind government.

[Fivezeroes]

I don't think strict libertarian principle allows me to demand the execution of anyone who is not guilty of murder, but I'd really like to see authoritarian balls of vomit like this dead. At the very least, I'd pardon the man who kilked him.

The reality is in this country if you defend yourself against a cop, even if justified, the screwed up system is gonna believe the cop. This guy happened to be a fake, but if he was a real cop he would have made up a lie and gotten away with this.

These people deserve to suffer, die, and burn in Hell. Any fellow Christian Libertarians reserve the right to neg rep me or quote something about love or something to argue against this statement, but honestly that's what I feel that these people deserve. I have little sympathy for criminals (Real ones, "Victimless crimes" are a different story) but I have absolutely none when they do it while hiding behind Leviathan. Honestly, I think doing something like this while hiding behind Leviathan is worse than killing someone but being willing to do it without hidind behind government.


You'd actually be wrong on that, cops who commit rape do not always walk, period. Take the case of Officer Michael Pena, of NY. He raped a woman at gun point and was convicted he is serving 75 years over it. Yea, I realize a lot of cops get away with assaulting a victim, some even get away with murdering. But, sometimes the justice system does get it right.

[Christian Liberty]

You'd actually be wrong on that, cops who commit rape do not always walk, period. Take the case of Officer Michael Pena, of NY. He raped a woman at gun point and was convicted he is serving 75 years over it. Yea, I realize a lot of cops get away with assaulting a victim, some even get away with murdering. But, sometimes the justice system does get it right.

I should have qualified my statement of "All" I suppose. I'm actually impressed that they got Pena. I really don't feel like that happens often. Although maybe I'm not paying enough attention.

I know you said you were a cop, so just to be clear, I do NOT hate cops. I dislike, but do not hate, cops who enforce bad laws because they "Have to" with the degree of that dislike being dependent on the law in question (OK, I'd probably hate them if the law in question was "Round up all the Jews" or something, but that's not realistic ATM). I admire cops who refuse to enforce bad laws, or even deliberately refrain as often as possible from enforcing them. I hate people, whether really cops or not, who do crap like this while hiding behind Leviathan. I don't actually believe that this is a good idea, but part of me wishes that people like this (Scum of the earth) could replace the slightly less bad people who try to kill us without hiding behind Leviathan in Guantanamo.

[PaulConventionWV]

You'd actually be wrong on that, cops who commit rape do not always walk, period. Take the case of Officer Michael Pena, of NY. He raped a woman at gun point and was convicted he is serving 75 years over it. Yea, I realize a lot of cops get away with assaulting a victim, some even get away with murdering. But, sometimes the justice system does get it right.

They probably get away with murder way more than they do with rape, since it's easier to justify and cover up the circumstances surrounding someone's death saying it was "necessary" and the officer "feared for his/her life". None of those excuses are valid if it is known that an officer had sex with someone on the job, voluntarily or not. If it is not voluntary, then all the victim has to do is say so.

[Christian Liberty]

I should be clear that I am letting off a bit of steam in the posts above because way too many people that I've come into contact with absolutely worship the cops and the government. Don't take my "Send them to Guantanamo" too seriously. I don't want to send anyone to Guantanamo. I want to shut it down. I do want the people who do this crap behind prison bars, however. That I was serious about.

[Fivezeroes]

I should be clear that I am letting off a bit of steam in the posts above because way too many people that I've come into contact with absolutely worship the cops and the government. Don't take my "Send them to Guantanamo" too seriously. I don't want to send anyone to Guantanamo. I want to shut it down. I do want the people who do this crap behind prison bars, however. That I was serious about.


No harm, no foul. It's understandable to let off steam. Especially when you're right, Cops do walk on a lot of bs.

[Christian Liberty]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

I bear no ill will towards those who do the right thing, as I said.