Crackdown: "conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups"

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The CEO of SPLC now sits on the DHS “Working Group on Countering Violent Extremism”
http://www.dhs.gov/countering-violent-extremism-resources
h/t Bern #12 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?406438-Crackdown-quot-conspiracy-minded-antigovernment-Patriot-groups-quot&p=4906388&viewfull=1#post4906388)


The Southern Poverty Law Center (http://www.splcenter.org/) (SPLC) is calling for a federal crackdown on

“conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups”

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In a statement released today to coincide with the publication of the Spring issue of the SPLC newsletter Investigative Report, the Center warned of “an 813-percent rise since 2008″ of “conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups” and requested Attorney-General Eric Holder form an “interagency task force to assess the adequacy of federal resources devoted to the threat.”

http://www.parapolitical.com/2013/03/splccrackdown

[Philhelm]

Wait...wouldn't that just feed their already paranoid, conspiracy-filled minds...?

[VoluntaryAmerican]

“an 813-percent rise since 2008″ of “conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups”

It's catching on, I'm tellin' ya.

[Origanalist]

“an 813-percent rise since 2008″ of “conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups”

It's catching on, I'm tellin' ya.

We can only hope.

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4619002029541271&pid=15.1

[tod evans]

Morris Dees and Obama, kingpins in the conspiracy to overthrow America..

Where are the stormtroopers serving warrants on these jokers?

[Origanalist]

The SPLC warned top federal law enforcement officials of the potential for domestic terrorism and urged the creation of a task force to assess the resources devoted to the threat.



http://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/hp_feature/images/hpbanner/Intelligence-Report-149-SPLC-Landing-Page.jpg

It's time to stand up for the Homeland comrad! Let's take these hating vermin down!

[Origanalist]

Wait a MINUTE! I'm not one of them. I just want smaller government! No! Don't put me in a camp!

[A Son of Liberty]

Wait a MINUTE! I'm not one of them. I just want smaller government! No! Don't put me in a camp!

Yes, you are. You want a smaller government. That means you're dangerous.

[Cleaner44]

Wait a MINUTE! I'm not one of them. I just want smaller government! No! Don't put me in a camp!


Yes, you are. You want a smaller government. That means you're dangerous.

Burn the non-believer in BIG GOVT! These anti-BIG GOVT patriots are extremists and a danger to thousands of useless government jobs.

[acptulsa]

What does this have to do with the South, poverty or law? Do people really still contribute money that could be used for, and which people think they're contributing for, helping the poor and downtrodden? How is discriminating against powermongers and bureaucrats racism?

This 'organization' needs to be exposed for what it is--a water carrier for tyranny. How many fools would still contribute to this so-called 'charity' if they knew what it really was?

[Matthew5]

Wait...wouldn't that just feed their already paranoid, conspiracy-filled minds...?

+rep.

Which is the point, to antagonize.

[Bern]

For those who missed it the first time around:
As the below document makes clear, Southern Poverty Law Center is Now Officially Part of DHS. The CEO of SPLC now sits on the DHS “Working Group on Countering Violent Extremism” along with the leaders of other So-called Non Government Organizations (but can we really call them such now that they are part of the government?) And select “law enforcement” officers such as the Clark County Nevada Sheriff, Doug Gillespie. What does the working group do? Make recommendations on training and how to use all of the local resources – police, social services, media, NGO’s, you name it – to fight “extremism. So, now no need to file a FOIA request to discover that SPLC is writing the reports naming constitutionalists as possible terrorists. Now it is in your face and the mask is off.
...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/08/its-official-southern-poverty-law-center-is-now-part-of-dhs/


The leftist Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is worried that non-violent conservative opposition to big government will lead to violence, and has produced an enemies list that includes much of the freedom movement.
...
A big part of SPLC alarm response is a new enemies list of sorts, a catalog of people and organizations the Montgomery, Alabama-based organization doesn't like. The SPLC list of 36 enemies “at the heart of the resurgent movement” opposing big government includes a mix of perfectly reasonable people along with some who have fallen for quirky but harmless conspiracy theories, as well as what the SPLC calls their “enablers”: Fox News Contributor Judge Andrew Napolitano and Congressmen Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and Paul Broun. Among those who have made the list are The New American's publisher John McManus, TNA contributor Chuck Baldwin, Gun Owners of America chairman Larry Pratt, WorldNetDaily founder Joe Farah, radio talk-show host Alex Jones, and constitutionalist author Edwin Vieira, Jr. The list includes birthers, truthers, militia members, and other people the SPLC calls political heretics, but not one of which the SPLC accuses of advocating violence or law-breaking. The SPLC attacks many constitutionalist organizations, from the John Birch Society to the Oathkeepers to the Three Percenters:
...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/politics/3358-leftist-splc-publishes-patriot-hit-list

[seyferjm]

It scares me that these insane leftists have a voice in DHS. Have you ever seen their building in Montgomery? It looks like a superfortress built for the apocalypse.

[presence]

For those who missed it the first time around:

thanks, moved to op

[Matthew5]

"The country needs to do better," Potok wrote in an editorial. The Department of Homeland Security, he said, needs to act to avoid a repeat of the kind of hate-based violence the nation saw in the 1990s.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/us/splc-extremist-groups-report/index.html

[shane77m]

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/03/ap-report-on-splcs-latest-lies-my.html


I received this email from an AP reporter in Montgomery this morning:

Mike: This is Bob Johnson at the Associated Press in Montgomery. The Southern Poverty Law Center is at 11 a.m. issuing their annual report on dangerous groups and militias. I wante to see if maybe I could get some comments from you when it comes out. Looking for someone who can give the other side for the SPLC.

Bob Johnson

Here is the resulting story.

Now I had difficulty finding the report at first and asked Johnson to send it to me, He sent me a rough draft of his story. My responses are interspersed throughout.

-----Original Message-----

From: Johnson, Bob bjohnson@ap.org

To: GeorgeMason1776 GeorgeMason1776@aol.com

Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 12:40 pm

Subject: Emailing story: BC-US--Extremist Groups, 1st Ld-Writethru

Here’s what we already have on the wire about the SPLC report. Please send me your comments and how you would like to be referred to in the story.

Researchers report dramatic rise in ‘patriot’ groups after school shooting sparks gun debate

By BOB JOHNSON, Associated Press

Dateline: MONTGOMERY, Ala.

President Barack Obama's administration and the gun control debate after the Connecticut school shooting have led to surging numbers of anti-government “patriot” groups, according to a civil rights group that tracks extremist groups.

The language used -- "anti-government 'patriot' groups -- is itself a lie. Only the wildest of anarchists are "anti-government." The Constitutional militia movement, of which I have been a leader for more than twenty years, is not "anti-government." We are pro-government, of the sort that the Founders would recognize -- small, of limited powers, reflecting the sentiments of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights that merely secure and codify natural, inalienable and God-given rights. In our view the present administration and its supporters inhabit a fundamentally alien world view to that of the Founders and ourselves -- they believe that the people serve the government whereas we believe that the government should serve the people. To the extent that the present administration continues to exhibit appetites for our liberty, property and lives we certainly oppose them, and organize with an eye to confront them if forced to, but we are NOT "anti-government." What we seek is not to coerce anyone to our point of view but merely to be left alone. Since the growing tyrannical appetites of the Obama administration (and others before it) as demonstrated by the so-called "Obamacare" law and the current rush to disarm the citizenry are evident for all to see, it is hardly an accident that people who they seek to victimize would object and organize themselves to resist.

The second part of the lie is to characterize a grab-bag of groups with contradictory aims and methods (even groups that consider each other as philosophical enemies) -- into one so-called movement. By conflating people and groups together as "extremists" with an alleged common purpose, SPLC gets to exaggerate, for the purposes of fund-raising, a threat which does not exist.

[CPUd]

"The country needs to do better," Potok wrote in an editorial. The Department of Homeland Security, he said, needs to act to avoid a repeat of the kind of hate-based violence the nation saw in the 1990s.

What, he's talking about these?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1dPKfxRhk0

[shrugged0106]

I'm actually a "reality minded anti-SLPC Patriot". I wonder if I'm also an extremist?

[ninepointfive]

Look at one example of who they list as a general hate group:

http://markamerica.com/2011/11/18/barnhardt-capital-management-closes-down-with-stunning-announcement/
http://markamerica65.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/annbarnhardt.jpg

"Ann Barnhardt has run her grain and livestock brokerage for years, but now, she’s “Going Galt.” This reminds me very much of the character “Midas Mulligan” from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and it’s no coincidence that she has chosen this moment to shut down her company. After years of watching the Obama administration and its cronies looting the capital markets, Barnhardt has made the moral decision to shut down operation since in the current environment, she can no longer safeguard her clients’ capital against the predatory tendencies of this administration, and its henchmen in the markets. As I have told you before, this is being done intentionally: Our country is being destroyed by design."

more at the link

[TheTexan]

This is a good sign

[A Son of Liberty]

Look at one example of who they list as a general hate group:

http://markamerica.com/2011/11/18/barnhardt-capital-management-closes-down-with-stunning-announcement/
http://markamerica65.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/annbarnhardt.jpg

"Ann Barnhardt has run her grain and livestock brokerage for years, but now, she’s “Going Galt.” This reminds me very much of the character “Midas Mulligan” from Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged, and it’s no coincidence that she has chosen this moment to shut down her company. After years of watching the Obama administration and its cronies looting the capital markets, Barnhardt has made the moral decision to shut down operation since in the current environment, she can no longer safeguard her clients’ capital against the predatory tendencies of this administration, and its henchmen in the markets. As I have told you before, this is being done intentionally: Our country is being destroyed by design."

more at the link

You've got to be kidding me? This woman is listed as a hate group?

[ZENemy]

You've got to be kidding me? This woman is listed as a hate group?

She is, have you seen her videos? she has some GREAT break downs of how the banks took over this country. Im guessing her announced tax strike makes her an enemy of the state. In my opinion a tax strike is the ONLY way to beat these people without violence (ok, without MUCH violence)

[cjm]

Wait a MINUTE! I'm not one of them. I just want smaller government! No! Don't put me in a camp!

#PeacefulTerrorist

[VoluntaryAmerican]

You've got to be kidding me? This woman is listed as a hate group?

You think a pretty smile will stop the collectivists?

We are collateral damage to them... we are the last refuseniks... a speed bump on the road to total tyranny in their eyes.

[A Son of Liberty]

You would think an individual person like that would at least have to have made a threatening comment... SOMETHING. I mean, I know these pigs at the SPLC have no standard other than anyone who does not share their vision of the role of government, but to deem an individual to be a hate group... I don't know why I'm surprised, but I am.

UGH. I'm sick of this shit.

[Pericles]

Start reading here: https://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/2009/08/30/a-brief-history-of-the-splc/

In 1971, Dees was contacted by Democratic presidential candidate, George McGovern, because of his expertise in the field of direct mail marketing. Dees agreed to help McGovern with his campaign fund raising in exchange for McGovern’s 700,000 member mailing list.


Armed with McGovern’s mailing list, Dees, with his new partner, Joe Levin, decided to open the Southern Poverty Law Center, in Montgomery, Alabama.


Basically, Morris has a nice scam going ......

[Anti Federalist]

Enough talk...make a move motherfuckers.

http://i.imgur.com/8l7AR.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

You've got to be kidding me? This woman is listed as a hate group?

You got a fucking problem with that, Mundane?

Reported.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Hate group of America are those wackos... But always follow the money

APLC's IRS 990, tax year return 2010; https://www.pdffiller.com/edit.php?id=3912239
$38.712 Million in revenue
$1/4 Billion in assets
Complete info on the SPLC finances/tax returns: http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/63-0598743/southern-poverty-law-center.aspx

Family Research Center's report: http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF12I53.pdf

WIKI reports this list they've put together:


The SPLC reported that 926 hate groups were active in the United States in 2008, up from 888 in 2007. These included:



186 separate Ku Klux Klan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan) (KKK) groups with 52 websites
196 neo-Nazi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazi) groups with 89 websites
111 White nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_nationalism) groups with 190 websites
98 White power skinhead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_skinheads) groups with 25 websites
39 Christian Identity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity) groups with 37 websites
93 neo-Confederate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Confederate) groups with 25 websites
113 black separatist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_separatism) groups with 40 websites
159 Patriot movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_movement) groups
90 additional groups divided by the SPLC into categories such as anti-gay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_opposition), anti-immigrant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_%28politics%29), Holocaust denial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial), racist music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist_music), radical traditionalist Catholic, among other categories for designated hate groups,[85] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-85)[86] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-86) which maintained another 172 websites.[87] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-87) Only organizations active in 2008 were counted, excluding those that appear to exist only on the Internet. In addition, SPLC reported there were 159 Patriot movement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_movement) groups active in the United States in 2008, up from 131 in 2007, with at least one such group in every state. They maintain 141 websites.[88] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-88)

[shane77m]

Enough talk...make a move motherfuckers.

http://i.imgur.com/8l7AR.jpg

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

[presence]

[88] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-88)

Interesting cite #88 doesn't hyperlink to anything live... I'd be interested in which are the 159 "patriot groups" in question.

[Carson]

“an 813-percent rise since 2008″ of “conspiracy-minded antigovernment Patriot groups”

It's catching on, I'm tellin' ya.

and that is probably just the ones IN the government. Then again technically they would be more your anti America or anti Constitution.

Anti us for sure... or would it be anti U.S. for sure???

[DamianTV]

[88] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center#cite_note-88)

Interesting cite #88 doesn't hyperlink to anything live... I'd be interested in which are the 159 "patriot groups" in question.


Guaranteed we're on it.

[tangent4ronpaul]

It scares me that these insane leftists have a voice in DHS. Have you ever seen their building in Montgomery? It looks like a superfortress built for the apocalypse.

http://em-arc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/1001_SPLC-01-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Splc.jpg


What does this have to do with the South, poverty or law? Do people really still contribute money that could be used for, and which people think they're contributing for, helping the poor and downtrodden? How is discriminating against powermongers and bureaucrats racism?

This 'organization' needs to be exposed for what it is--a water carrier for tyranny. How many fools would still contribute to this so-called 'charity' if they knew what it really was?

I'm guessing those "fools" that are their major contributors know exactly what it really is.

-t

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

It scares me that these insane leftists have a voice in DHS. Have you ever seen their building in Montgomery? It looks like a superfortress built for the apocalypse.


It scares me that DHS exists.