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compromise
03-04-2013, 03:47 PM
http://news.usni.org/2013/03/04/budget-cuts-could-pull-navy-out-of-the-war-on-drugs

U.S. Navy frigates will stop patrolling for drug runners by April because of forced sequestration budget cuts, a Navy spokesman told USNI News on Monday.

On Saturday, U.S. 4th Fleet was informed by Navy leadership it would suspend deployments of two ships—part of the Joint Interagency Task Force South’s Operation Martillo—by April because of the 1 March sequestration cuts, said the 4th Fleet’s Cmdr. Cory Barker.

“The cancellation and deferment of ship deployments to 4th Fleet is unfortunate,” Barker said. “We will remain hopeful that Congress will act so we can recover and continue those missions.”

Currently the Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates USS Gary (FFG-51) and Thach (FFG-43) patrol the Caribbean and the eastern Pacific looking for drug runners using either high-speed “go-fast,” boats or slow-moving, hard-to-detect drug submarine-like craft to smuggle hundreds of tons of cocaine and other drugs from South America into the United States.

With the frigates out of the picture, the amount of drugs entering the country will increase, U.S. Coast Guard Commandant Adm. Robert Papp told USNI News following Tuesday’s State of the Coast Guard address.

“We already don’t have enough surface assets down there to interdict all of the drugs that are smuggled from South America into North America,” Papp said.

“If those [frigates] go, we don’t have enough platforms to put Coast Guard Law Enforcement Teams on. We would be down to the point where we would only be using Coast Guard cutters and we don’t have enough [of those] to meet the demand JIATF South has for us.”


Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate USS Thach (FFG-43) in 2011. US Navy Photo

Along with Coast Guard cutters, help from Navy and Air Force reconnaissance aircraft and limited international involvement, the Navy helps stop about one-third of illicit drugs bound for the United States. Ships from the U.S. Navy and other international navies host U.S. Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachments. The LEDET teams provide ships with the legal authority to interdict suspected traffickers and make arrests as necessary.

“The other complicated thing that goes beyond the U.S. Navy [is that] Great Britain used to provide a ship down there, the Dutch used to provide a ship, the French used to provide a ship and they are all having defense budget problems now and are withdrawing from the Caribbean,” Papp said.

The Navy planned to relieve the Gary with the San Diego, Calif. -ported USS Rentz (FFG-46) in April but with the cuts, Rentz would remain pierside. The Thach entered 4th Fleet in February and could be sent back to San Diego as early as the end of March, Barker said.

“Since we started Operation Martillo on 15 January 2012, partner nations have supported 67 percent of the law-enforcement interdictions of illicit traffickers,” read a statement from JIATF South that was provided to USNI News. “We will continue to look to these partners and employ the assets we have to maximize and sustain the successes we are now realizing against illicit traffickers.”

Since its start, Operation Martillo (Spanish for hammer) has intercepted more than 145,000 kilos (160 tons) of cocaine—worth about $4 billion—125 tons of marijuana, and $3.5 million in drug money, Barker said.

Flights of Navy P-3 reconnaissance aircraft based in El Salvador will continue for now, Barker said.

The Navy faces $9 billion in budget reductions for Fiscal Year 2013 if the current sequestration cuts stand and the services faces a yearlong Continuing Resolution.

jbauer
03-04-2013, 03:49 PM
What exactly is the navy doing in the war on drugs? Whatever it is it obviously isn't working so cutting something that isn't working seems to be a pretty rational thing to do.

phill4paul
03-04-2013, 04:01 PM
No loss there. Make it permanent. Next? This sequestration thing isn't hurting as bad as I was told it would.

erowe1
03-04-2013, 04:07 PM
What exactly is the navy doing in the war on drugs? Whatever it is it obviously isn't working so cutting something that isn't working seems to be a pretty rational thing to do.

To say that it isn't working implies that the purpose of it would be to decrease drug-related problems. I don't take for granted that that's the case.

Demigod
03-04-2013, 04:41 PM
How can they be stopping and canceling existing programs when all the cuts are for budget increases.All those routine tasks that they have been doing for years should stay intact and only future plans should be scrapped.

tangent4ronpaul
03-04-2013, 05:01 PM
Hundreds of thousands of pot heads are cheering right now!

Now, will it significantly increase supply and drop the price?

Related: heard on the radio a bit ago... You know how the pentagon was supposed to take half the budget cut? There is a new bill on the table that would INCREASE their budget by 9 Billion as part of a sequester "deal"... :mad:

-t

tod evans
03-04-2013, 05:19 PM
Smoke-n-mirrors, they ain't cuttin' squat except maybe a portion of the purposed increase..

Luciconsort
03-04-2013, 06:42 PM
Hundreds of thousands of pot heads are cheering right now!

Now, will it significantly increase supply and drop the price?

Related: heard on the radio a bit ago... You know how the pentagon was supposed to take half the budget cut? There is a new bill on the table that would INCREASE their budget by 9 Billion as part of a sequester "deal"... :mad:

-t

that was the first thing I thought when I saw the headline lol. so call me a cheering pothead. Increase in supply means more weed for me. win.

UWDude
03-04-2013, 06:54 PM
Ha. I live in a Navy town. Believe me, the navy doesn't care about the war on drugs when it comes to its own sailors where the rubber meets the road.

tangent4ronpaul
03-04-2013, 07:14 PM
Ha. I live in a Navy town. Believe me, the navy doesn't care about the war on drugs when it comes to its own sailors where the rubber meets the road.

Ah - got it! - hard to find a dealer in the middle of the sea... :D

-t

kcchiefs6465
03-04-2013, 07:56 PM
How can they be stopping and canceling existing programs when all the cuts are for budget increases.All those routine tasks that they have been doing for years should stay intact and only future plans should be scrapped.
Don't think about it. It's a lot easier for it to make sense that way.

UWDude
03-04-2013, 08:27 PM
Ah - got it! - hard to find a dealer in the middle of the sea... :D

-t

Actually, the ones in charge of piss tests are often doing drugs themselves. So they only report positives for people they don't like. And this information came from a tester, not someone with sour grapes because they were kicked out. I was amazed how many drugs are done on ships and overseas. Especially the less testable ones like acid and meth.

Tod
03-04-2013, 08:40 PM
Strategic move to increase drug activity thus justifying increased searches, etc.

AGRP
03-04-2013, 09:12 PM
Ha. I live in a Navy town. Believe me, the navy doesn't care about the war on drugs when it comes to its own sailors where the rubber meets the road.

"Substance abuse" is very common among the military...and DC.

kcchiefs6465
03-04-2013, 09:15 PM
"Substance abuse" is very common among the military...and DC.
I liked when Ron Paul mentioned Congress's drug of choice.

devil21
03-04-2013, 09:27 PM
I liked when Ron Paul mentioned Congress's drug of choice.

Get involved in the state and national convention process and you'll see this in action after all the party "business" has been done for the day. Hospitality suites overflowing with booze and substances. Politicians and their staffs love getting as intoxicated as any average joe does.

ClydeCoulter
03-04-2013, 09:31 PM
Hey, that's smart. Announce it. "We won't be monitoring drug smuggling operations during these dates....hint....hint...."