View Full Version : 6 minutes of police brutality
alucard13mmfmj
03-01-2013, 11:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuutmodKrQedit*
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152607515520573
black guy gets beaten up for over 5 minutes. many dozen blows and i believe tasered twice.
backup arrives and i think one or a few of the 2 thug's police coworkers were gagging.
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 11:32 PM
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuutmodKrQ
Your facebook link doesn't work.
just a couple more skinhead nazis
alucard13mmfmj
03-01-2013, 11:35 PM
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obuutmodKrQ
Your facebook link doesn't work.
yes ;p that one.
It took all those punches and kicks by all those pussies to a man that never threw a punch. They could have cuffed him in 20 seconds if they wanted to.
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 11:39 PM
I'd add myself that the man was choked before given a chance to comply. He was shoved to the ground and told to put his hands behind his back. [though he couldn't at that moment as the cop had him pinned] Them beating on him in the legs broke his leg. They then tell him to turn over and lay on his stomach with his leg is broken. The cop telling him to put his hands out to be handcuffed from the front [while presumably the ambulance was called in] - I couldn't tell if that's who the cop called or for more backup - was considerate assuming he didn't break the man's leg to begin with.
'I know what you are trying to do.' 'Please don't kill me,' is disturbing to hear. The ending where the cop punches the man a good 20 times in a full mount position, while the victim has no real means to defend himself is sickening. Sure, the man should have surrendered. That does not excuse the beating that was given.
green73
03-01-2013, 11:40 PM
just a couple more skinhead nazis
Couple roid heads too.
I know there will be defenders of these thugs. "Why didn't he just do what they said?" As if that excuses beating the shit out of him.
edit:
Pretty sure they literally beat the shit out of him. Fucking nazis.
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 11:44 PM
Give me a minute to find another one. I'm pretty sure it was never posted and relates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCO5VJSHUHc
ETA: He was given permission to sleep in this synagogue. I'm also pretty certain there was audio with the video though a mere half year later I can't find it.
I prefer the Bone Thugs 'N Harmony version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myDoJ7WIGvU
Philhelm
03-01-2013, 11:58 PM
Lesson to be learned: when the time comes, do not ever allow yourself to be captured.
green73
03-02-2013, 12:01 AM
Lesson to be learned: when the time comes, do not ever allow yourself to be captured.
That's it man. Wash yourself of all fear, for what is life worth if you are a slave?
dillo
03-02-2013, 12:56 AM
Worthless cops
aGameOfThrones
03-02-2013, 01:12 AM
6 minutes of brutality seems fair for hours of protection.
Uncle Emanuel Watkins
03-02-2013, 08:22 AM
But why didn't he roll over onto his stomach?
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 08:43 AM
Cops do tend to be horrendous human beings and the savages in the video can't get AIDS soon enough, but the above point is actually valid -- why didn't he just roll over onto his stomach? How did he think this would end?
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 08:46 AM
'I know what you are trying to do.' 'Please don't kill me,' is disturbing to hear. The ending where the cop punches the man a good 20 times in a full mount position, while the victim has no real means to defend himself is sickening. Sure, the man should have surrendered. That does not excuse the beating that was given.
I agree with this.
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 08:49 AM
Lesson to be learned: when the time comes, do not ever allow yourself to be captured.
What does this mean?
In almost every instance I can possibly imagine, compliance with police makes life easier than any alternative. The points you may score by telling them what-for, or making their life more difficult are nothing compared to the massive power they wield on behalf of the State.
Choose your battles wisely. You only have one life and the liberty movement doesn't need martyrs. It needs informed, eloquent, leaders.
pcosmar
03-02-2013, 08:50 AM
why didn't he just roll over onto his stomach?
Fear of having something shoved up his ass?
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 08:56 AM
Fear of having something shoved up his ass?
That fear is totally and completely irrational, as is the cops' fear that the man they're beating will harm them. Just because the cops are savages does not mean the victim of their savagery acted the way he should have.
"Am I willing to die over this?" --- that is the question you've got to ask yourself when dealing with agents of the state. If the answer is "no" then comply immediately. If the answer is yes, rethink the scenario. Then think some more. And then some more. And then some more, because you're probably wrong. Then, if you're still committed to that stance, act as decisively as you can. Otherwise, comply. There is no middle ground to occupy.
fisharmor
03-02-2013, 08:58 AM
Worthless cops
But you repeat yourself.
kathy88
03-02-2013, 09:00 AM
But why didn't he roll over onto his stomach?
Maybe because his leg was broken?
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 09:03 AM
Maybe because his leg was broken?
Not sure what that has to do with anything. He could have complied before or after his leg was broken.
LibForestPaul
03-02-2013, 09:16 AM
Not sure what that has to do with anything. He could have complied before or after his leg was broken.
They'll get you too. No matter how much lube you use.
FunkBuddha
03-02-2013, 09:48 AM
Depending on one's instinct, it might be difficult to put your hands behind your back and roll over when you're being beaten mercilessly by a couple of highly aggressive, 300 lb. ogres. Especially for a black man who has no doubt been raised hearing stories of other black people being murdered, beaten and tortured by racist white dudes. Why would he trust that the officers would be any less aggressive had he complied. They showed no restraint when he was begging them to "please stop".
These pigs are some sick fuckers. How come this guy gets charged with assault but the officers, who were fired for excessive use of force, aren't also charged with assault? That was a rhetorical question.
Lifesoup
03-02-2013, 09:54 AM
But why didn't he roll over onto his stomach?
Seems obvious to me. Fear of execution: When you are flat on your stomach with a couple hulking men on your back you will quietly die of asphyxiation.
"I know what you are trying to do. Please don't kill me".....
belian78
03-02-2013, 10:52 AM
Not sure what that has to do with anything. He could have complied before or after his leg was broken.
Seriously, you ever get tired of eating this crap with a smile? He should just roll on over after having his leg broken? "oh well I guess you guys were serious, here lemme roll over now and ruin my leg even more".
DGambler
03-02-2013, 11:01 AM
Yet the majority of Americans support the police and view this type of behavior as an outlier. Even the LAPD brutality in search of Donner will be forgotten. Talk to someone about Waco or Ruby Ridge and they'll shrug their shoulders if they have even hear of it.
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 11:21 AM
Seriously, you ever get tired of eating this crap with a smile? He should just roll on over after having his leg broken? "oh well I guess you guys were serious, here lemme roll over now and ruin my leg even more".
He should have never even let it get to the point where his leg was broken in the first place. The entire ordeal is stupid.
We all know what cops do. Don't allow the situation to become a fog-scorpion-river tragedy. There's a time, place and manner to handle savage, abusive, psychopaths in costumes. When they're trying to cuff you is.... NOT ideal. That is when you comply, completely and without hesitation.
You can push all the internet bravado that you want, but anything other than immediate compliance will be viewed with contempt in the cop's eyes and that will only lead to horrific things for you. Don't be a martyr. Obey all just laws, video tape all interactions with cops, remain calm and respectful, and understand your rights. When the law is turned on its head, use your video as evidence and seek retribution through the court system. When the judge and jury ultimately see your calm, compliant, demeanor in the face of unbridled savagery you'll "win." You will NEVER -literally NEVER- win an on-street confrontation with a determined cop. If you push it far enough, you will be summarily executed.
This is not a game. These thugs are real, and they are given almost unlimited power. We all know that they abuse it. Don't be surprised when they respond as we all know they will.
They just kept coming and coming... and I was wondering, how many clowns does that VW Bug actually hold?
pcosmar
03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
Fear of having something shoved up his ass?
That fear is totally and completely irrational,
No it is not. It has happened,, several times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYPD_subway_sodomy_incident
A couple quick references.. Do you need more? There are lots.
kcchiefs6465
03-02-2013, 01:52 PM
Well, Kingnothing, they told him to put his hands behind his back and a good two second later they were choking him. They told him to roll over but the officer had him pinned. This escalated [rather, the pigs escalated] to them beating and breaking his leg. Then they told him to roll over again after presumably an ambulance was on its way. For a moment it seemed like the officer was going to let the man be handcuffed from the front. Still, you have to ask yourself, what threat does this skinny, half asphixiated, broken legged man sitting against the wall pose to you, or the ambulance driver. He was not combative. Sure, he didn't want to go back to jail, but it's not as if he swung on the cop. His disobedience is what got him the beating. All in all, the video shows a gang or pack mentality. The other cops are virtually unfazed by the broken legged, bloody man being beat. If video came out of anyone else beating a man like this, and him begging for his life, every single person that stood around would have been charged with a slew of crimes. Seems the pigs have nothing to worry about, seeing that they acknowledged they were on camera and proceeded to beat the man another 200+ times.
These are supposed to be "professionals." Beating people, theoretically until they are dead, until they "comply" is criminal. There was no reason to arrest him to begin with unless he physically harmed someone. If he was trespassing, then they should have escorted him out of the building and then arrested him if he came back.
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 03:01 PM
No it is not. It has happened,, several times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NYPD_subway_sodomy_incident
A couple quick references.. Do you need more? There are lots.
Yeah, I knew you'd post those. So? There are one helluva lot more instances of cops being killed or injured than there are of people getting raped by police officers, and even the odds of a cop being killed are so low as to make their fear totally irrational. "Fear of being raped" is just silly.
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 03:04 PM
Well, Kingnothing, they told him to put his hands behind his back and a good two second later they were choking him. They told him to roll over but the officer had him pinned. This escalated [rather, the pigs escalated] to them beating and breaking his leg. Then they told him to roll over again after presumably an ambulance was on its way. For a moment it seemed like the officer was going to let the man be handcuffed from the front. Still, you have to ask yourself, what threat does this skinny, half asphixiated, broken legged man sitting against the wall pose to you, or the ambulance driver. He was not combative. Sure, he didn't want to go back to jail, but it's not as if he swung on the cop. His disobedience is what got him the beating. All in all, the video shows a gang or pack mentality. The other cops are virtually unfazed by the broken legged, bloody man being beat. If video came out of anyone else beating a man like this, and him begging for his life, every single person that stood around would have been charged with a slew of crimes. Seems the pigs have nothing to worry about, seeing that they acknowledged they were on camera and proceeded to beat the man another 200+ times.
I agree with this assessment. And?
All I've said is that when police tell you that you're under arrest or being detained, you listen. Period. End. If you don't, you may end up being killed.
We all know that they act this way. Since we have this foreknowledge, it should influence our behavior when we are unfortunate enough to be in close proximity to them.
bolil
03-02-2013, 03:06 PM
They aint cops, and they aint animals. They are sus tyrannus. And they will treat you in the same fashion.
bolil
03-02-2013, 03:10 PM
Reason why I hate pigs number one: They are irrational. always looking for truffles.
bolil
03-02-2013, 03:12 PM
I agree with this assessment. And?
All I've said is that when police tell you that you're under arrest or being detained, you listen. Period. End. If you don't, you may end up being killed.
We all know that they act this way. Since we have this foreknowledge, it should influence our behavior when we are unfortunate enough to be in close proximity to them.
King is taking the practical approach as regards surviving police custody. In a sense he is right, without mass support resistance is a ticket to death. But then. what does that make us? Cowards./
kcchiefs6465
03-02-2013, 03:20 PM
I agree with this assessment. And?
All I've said is that when police tell you that you're under arrest or being detained, you listen. Period. End. If you don't, you may end up being killed.
We all know that they act this way. Since we have this foreknowledge, it should influence our behavior when we are unfortunate enough to be in close proximity to them.
I'm more pointing out that he did not have a chance to listen. He had about 2 seconds to comply before the cop choked and slammed him. Then pinned him, then broke his leg. Then they told him to roll over. A broken leg makes it hard to comply. So the whole, you listen, period meme is kind of played out. Even when you listen, and are respectful, they may still whoop your ass. I know. Most of the police encounters I've had are with cops who apparently were bullied as a kid or something. Even with me listening and being respectful I've been harrassed, threatened, slammed on the car, chained to shit etc. Yeah, listening is a good suggestion. It wouldn't have done this man a damn bit of good though.
Heres the entire video. The suspect was being combative with another person before the police came, but it doesnt warrant a beating. Cop kicked him while he was cuffed at 28:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8HAVLhqTbc
KingNothing
03-02-2013, 03:31 PM
Heres the entire video. The suspect was being combative with another person before the police came, but it doesnt warrant a beating:
Of course he was. He's probably a scumbag and idiot, too. Notice the "too" in that sentence - certainly the cops fit that description a well.
PaulConventionWV
03-02-2013, 03:35 PM
Couple roid heads too.
I know there will be defenders of these thugs. "Why didn't he just do what they said?" As if that excuses beating the shit out of him.
edit:
Pretty sure they literally beat the shit out of him. Fucking nazis.
Do you know what you just said? I wouldn't say that unless you know for sure.
PaulConventionWV
03-02-2013, 03:44 PM
But why didn't he roll over onto his stomach?
Because he doesn't respect them or he simply didn't understand. He may be retarded. Who knows, who cares?
PaulConventionWV
03-02-2013, 03:45 PM
That fear is totally and completely irrational, as is the cops' fear that the man they're beating will harm them. Just because the cops are savages does not mean the victim of their savagery acted the way he should have.
"Am I willing to die over this?" --- that is the question you've got to ask yourself when dealing with agents of the state. If the answer is "no" then comply immediately. If the answer is yes, rethink the scenario. Then think some more. And then some more. And then some more, because you're probably wrong. Then, if you're still committed to that stance, act as decisively as you can. Otherwise, comply. There is no middle ground to occupy.
Again, who knows, who cares?
That said, I think he was trying to plead with them not to arrest him. He's just irrational enough that he thought he could talk them out of it. He's not a very smart man, obviously.
P3ter_Griffin
03-02-2013, 08:07 PM
So the beating was justified? Or you just don't care and wanted to type away on your keyboard? :confused:
Officer safety.
Indeed.
If we have no officers, their safety becomes a non-issue.
Problem solved.
Next.
PaulConventionWV
03-03-2013, 10:37 AM
So the beating was justified? Or you just don't care and wanted to type away on your keyboard? :confused:
Who are you talking to?
pacodever
03-03-2013, 10:50 AM
Those meatheads need to do some cardio instead of benchpresses. They are sucking air less than a minute into the confrontation.
Brian4Liberty
03-03-2013, 11:08 AM
Pretty sure they literally beat the shit out of him.
That would be one of the wonderful side effects of the taser.
satchelmcqueen
03-03-2013, 12:14 PM
really??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ3OCfNd_vo&list=PL9EEA6E2A77C4EC98
That fear is totally and completely irrational, as is the cops' fear that the man they're beating will harm them. Just because the cops are savages does not mean the victim of their savagery acted the way he should have.
"Am I willing to die over this?" --- that is the question you've got to ask yourself when dealing with agents of the state. If the answer is "no" then comply immediately. If the answer is yes, rethink the scenario. Then think some more. And then some more. And then some more, because you're probably wrong. Then, if you're still committed to that stance, act as decisively as you can. Otherwise, comply. There is no middle ground to occupy.
belian78
03-03-2013, 05:32 PM
Publicly calling out LE here to answer why I get neg rep for my question earlier in the thread? You get mad I call you out on your petty vendettas and take it out in such a passive aggressive way? tsk tsk LE, very unbecoming.
KingNothing
03-03-2013, 06:06 PM
really??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ3OCfNd_vo&list=PL9EEA6E2A77C4EC98
Exponentially more cops are killed on duty than rape people they arrest. Each happens so infrequently that a fear of either is completely irrational.
green73
03-11-2013, 12:55 PM
Update: Cops fired
http://www.copblock.org/28434/black-man-gets-brutal-beating-from-the-cops-and-officers-get-fired-for-using-excessive-force/
But, as we know, they'll probably get their jobs back
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?407151-Bad-cops-rarely-lose-their-job
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