View Full Version : Glenn Beck: Principled Libertarians are "Nazis" and "Facists"
RonPaulFanInGA
03-01-2013, 02:11 PM
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=43000
kathy88
03-01-2013, 02:19 PM
Now this is the Beck I've come to know and loathe.
Glenn Beck sings the virtues of compromise and says you're a 'fascist' if you want him to apologize for his past transgressions attacking libertarians (for example, calling them terrorists). He then goes on to say libertarians who insist on having principles are "Nazis" and "Fascists."
“This guy [some alleged famous libertarian] wrote, and said if Glenn Beck wants to join our club — meaning Libertarianism — then he has to come and atone for his past transgressions, and I thought, ‘Is that you grand inquisitor?’ What is this, the Spanish Inquisition? You’re more Fascist than some of the Fascists that I’ve seen. And the same thing with many of the hard core Ron Paul supporters.”
[...]
“You Libertarians, you’re Nazis! The fascist Libertarians — you have to agree with absolutely everything! You are more fascist than anybody in the Republican Party because you are — if you don’t walk in step exactly with you, you’re not welcome.”
In other words, you're a fascist if you don't agree with him and his version of all-compromise conservatism masquerading as libertarianism. He finishes his screed by saying "we" can win the White House if we all support Rand Paul or Chris Christie and compromise on everything which makes us libertarian.
He's one of us, guys, seriously! It's not an act. Believe him!
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 02:28 PM
Then why the hell do you keep making and bumping Beck threads? [not including this one]
dillo
03-01-2013, 03:21 PM
He clearly doesn't understand fascism
evilfunnystuff
03-01-2013, 03:29 PM
Not Beck...
talkingpointes
03-01-2013, 03:33 PM
He's one of us, guys, seriously! It's not an act. Believe him!
He just being all stealthy-esque. If he were to come out as a true Rothbardian, as I think he is - he would blow his cover and reveal the vast right wing conspiracy to free ourselves. He is just trying to court the less politically astute (or as the dictionary calls them rubes). Once Beck gets 15 million something er-view-lisner rather I don't know he will come out and let everyone know the truth. I know he must tame his inner flame and conviction that wants to scream out passages from Road To Serfdom(on the highest mountain top of course); but no he must go back to the chalkboard and do another vinn diagram. True genius at work here.
Czolgosz
03-01-2013, 03:33 PM
Now this is the Beck I've come to know and loathe.
I can't raise you a facepalm if you don't post a facepalm. :-\
RonPaulFanInGA
03-01-2013, 03:35 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291544-By-God-He-s-Learning-Glenn-Beck-is-Almost-Down-the-Rabbit-Hole!
This was from 2011.
Notice anything? Most of the "Beck's figured it out!" threads on RonPaulForums are in 2009, 2011, 2013. Years without elections.
It's like there's a pattern at play here.
anaconda
03-01-2013, 03:40 PM
He clearly doesn't understand fascism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE
We only managed to go one day free of new Glenn Beck threads being started, but somehow it seems like it could set a record these days.
bunklocoempire
03-01-2013, 03:48 PM
http://s6.postimage.org/46h1c4lf5/Glenn_beck.jpg
"I love you baby! Why you being like this?
It won't happen again baby. Now get back here!
We need each other!"
http://s6.postimage.org/l4fi3iovl/changehim.jpg
Last words in the clip out of Becks mouth: "Well there goes any shot I had with making any friend with that are libertarians.... oh well."
In the near future, he will be crying because we won't accept him as he is.... :rolleyes:
awake
03-01-2013, 04:13 PM
This is par for the course. They need to separate the "Libertarians" who will make great pawns from the ones who refuse to be. Don't follow Beck, he's trying too hard and being a little to obvious.
http://s6.postimage.org/46h1c4lf5/Glenn_beck.jpg
"I love you baby! Why you being like this?
It won't happen again baby. Now get back here!
We need each other!"
http://s6.postimage.org/l4fi3iovl/changehim.jpg
Maybe we should start a group therapy session thread with counselors available for those who were abused by him, but in denial, on the forums.
Prominence
03-01-2013, 04:31 PM
Soon to follow final opinion on Glen Beck. The guy is a douche I am glad that many of us recognize that despite all the people that can't stop making threads about him.
green73
03-01-2013, 04:36 PM
Glenn Beck Admits His Hate for Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/09/glenn-beck-admits-his-hate-for-ron-paul/
libertygrl
03-01-2013, 04:41 PM
He clearly doesn't understand fascism
Maybe if he'd look in the mirror he would!
purplechoe
03-01-2013, 07:11 PM
Maybe if he'd look in the mirror he would!
Maybe he should look to his beloved Israel, fascism is alive and well there, something about Stockholm syndrome...
Spikender
03-01-2013, 07:15 PM
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but as a former Glenn Beck fan, I knew this was coming, and all the people who said otherwise are falling for Glenn Beck's old game plan.
COpatriot
03-01-2013, 07:40 PM
http://t.qkme.me/35gih4.jpg
heavenlyboy34
03-01-2013, 07:58 PM
Maybe he should look to his beloved Israel, fascism is alive and well there, something about Stockholm syndrome...
Is the Israeli regime really fascist (in the traditional sense of the word, as Moussolini used it)? It is militaristic and belligerent...perhaps genocidal...but not sure if it could be called fascistic. Enlighten me, plz. :)
sailingaway
03-01-2013, 08:00 PM
Is the Israeli regime really fascist (in the traditional sense of the word, as Moussolini used it)? It is militaristic and belligerent...perhaps genocidal...but not sure if it could be called fascistic. Enlighten me, plz. :)
Moussolini isn't the only definition of fascism, only one definition. However, I don't know that Israel is fascistic.... I'm not responding to that. I don't honestly know much about their domestic government.
heavenlyboy34
03-01-2013, 08:07 PM
Moussolini isn't the only definition of fascism, only one definition. However, I don't know that Israel is fascistic.... I'm not responding to that. I don't honestly know much about their domestic government. Fair enough. Thanks anyway. ~hugs~
mczerone
03-01-2013, 08:09 PM
Libertarian: You can't be one of us unless you forswear one thing: the use of violence. You can't threaten to punch people in the face anymore.
Beck: But I agree that I won't punch you in the face if you agree with me on everything. I won't punch anybody in the face unless it's the day of a full moon and they're wearing a blue shirt.
Libertarian: No, that's not libertarianism. That's just some pragmatic form of using violence. If you apologize for threatening force, and forswear ALL uses in the future, than you can be a libertarian.
Beck: C'mon, you fascist. Let me in your club! I want your people to give me money! I won't hit them if they don't give me money, but I might still punch someone in the face for some other reason that might never happen. But it might happen. I can't promise anything.
Libertarian: Okay, you can come in.
Beck: *smack!*
Libertarian: Okay, get out.
Beck: WAHHHH!
goto 10
ItsTime
03-01-2013, 08:09 PM
Glenn who?
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 08:11 PM
Glenn who?
Glen*
ItsTime
03-01-2013, 08:18 PM
Glen*
*Glenn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck
?
kcchiefs6465
03-01-2013, 08:23 PM
*Glenn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Beck
?
That would assume that he deserves the respect of not misspelling his name.
purplechoe
03-01-2013, 09:26 PM
Is the Israeli regime really fascist (in the traditional sense of the word, as Moussolini used it)? It is militaristic and belligerent...perhaps genocidal...but not sure if it could be called fascistic. Enlighten me, plz. :)
Fascism comes from ancient Roman Empire. Ever heard of the fasci?
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRv6ZVGFsI/AAAAAAAAA4c/vdALxR9Nd3M/s320/erer.jpg
It's a symbol which can be found here:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRxeOQjEJI/AAAAAAAAA40/Ubgvq0qOiZk/s320/Fasci+556TYTH.jpg
here:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRyelb3JxI/AAAAAAAAA5M/z45PDoZzlZE/s320/Abraham+Lincoln+Statue.jpg
and here:
http://s3.hubimg.com/u/3155330_f520.jpg
among many other places.
I guess you could actually call Israel a fascist/ socialist state, like the US. On one hand they are the bankers (phony capitalists), on the other socialists (Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic in the US and were the ones behind the revolution in Russia with the likes of Lenin and Trotsky. I probably don't need to tell you about their overwhelming representation in the ownership of banks and the Fed (Bernanke and Greenspan), the newspaper industry, movies studios, TV networks, do I even need to mention AIPAC and why it's so influential? Lots of money there. Just scratching the surface here... And to be more clear I don't hate all the Jews, just the Zionists that seem to be pulling the strings behind the scenes. Christians can be Zionists too, it's just the the Jewish ones seem to have the upper hand when it comes to possessing the real power. Ever notice how influential AIPAC can be on our government? ;)
HigherVision
03-01-2013, 09:39 PM
Fascism comes from ancient Roman Empire. Ever heard of the fasci?
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRv6ZVGFsI/AAAAAAAAA4c/vdALxR9Nd3M/s320/erer.jpg
It's a symbol which can be found here:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRxeOQjEJI/AAAAAAAAA40/Ubgvq0qOiZk/s320/Fasci+556TYTH.jpg
here:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_79JhZ0Mjrzo/SjRyelb3JxI/AAAAAAAAA5M/z45PDoZzlZE/s320/Abraham+Lincoln+Statue.jpg
and here:
http://s3.hubimg.com/u/3155330_f520.jpg
among many other places.
I guess you could actually call Israel a fascist/ socialist state, like the US. On one hand they are the bankers (phony capitalists), on the other socialists (Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic in the US and were the ones behind the revolution in Russia with the likes of Lenin and Trotsky. I probably don't need to tell you about their overwhelming representation in the ownership of banks and the Fed (Bernanke and Greenspan), the newspaper industry, movies studios, TV networks, do I even need to mention AIPAC and why it's so influential? Lots of money there. Just scratching the surface here... And to be more clear I don't hate all the Jews, just the Zionists that seem to be pulling the strings behind the scenes. Christians can be Zionists too, it's just the the Jewish ones seem to have the upper hand when it comes to possessing the real power. Ever notice how influential AIPAC can be on our government? ;)
Supply and demand though, the goyim eat up their mainstream news media products. If people didn't like their lies then the Zionist Jews who own most of the media would be out of business. Folks certainly don't want to hear what we have to say, after all we're a bunch of nuts! So ultimately I blame the average sheeple American.
ClydeCoulter
03-01-2013, 10:00 PM
Supply and demand though, the goyim eat up their mainstream news media products. If people didn't like their lies then the Zionist Jews who own most of the media would be out of business. Folks certainly don't want to hear what we have to say, after all we're a bunch of nuts! So ultimately I blame the average sheeple American.
Spoon feeding. There has to be something to compare with.
edit: think, wolf boy.
DamianTV
03-01-2013, 10:48 PM
Facism is the ultimate merger between Socialism and Corpratism - Mussolini (paraphrased)
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Wasnt there a thread recently about Beck now being a full-on Libertarian? Yeah, mmm hmm, yep, sure thing, yes-sir-ree, all the Libertarians I know are Nazis and Facists.
Its another MSM ploy. Well, actually, the same one on the continuing course. The comment isnt aimed to be heard by us, it is aimed to be heard by anyone that has the potential to stand in our way. It is nothing short of a fear mongering scare tactic, and trying to call it TRUTH is complete bullshit. But there are people out there that do respond to this fear mongering. It would really be no different than trying to say all Christians are Straight. But a comment like that would be aimed at a LBGT crowd and intentionally stated to get the LGBT's upset at all Christians.
Divide and Conquer Tactics do not work as long as people are aware that the real enemy is the one trying to divide people. And in this case, that would be Glenn Beck.
ronpaulfollower999
03-01-2013, 11:15 PM
Glenn Beck is a fucktard. I was hoping he'd at least go along to get along, but he's apparently not open minded.
Oh well, his loss.
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 01:09 AM
“This guy [some alleged famous libertarian] wrote, and said if Glenn Beck wants to join our club — meaning Libertarianism — then he has to come and atone for his past transgressions, and I thought, ‘Is that you grand inquisitor?’ What is this, the Spanish Inquisition? You’re more Fascist than some of the Fascists that I’ve seen. And the same thing with many of the hard core Ron Paul supporters.”
[...]
“You Libertarians, you’re Nazis! The fascist Libertarians — you have to agree with absolutely everything! You are more fascist than anybody in the Republican Party because you are — if you don’t walk in step exactly with you, you’re not welcome.”
Some of you aren't going to like this, but I think there is a lot of truth in what he says about some libertarians acting like they are the gatekeepers to this movement. I have seen plenty of people who didn't walk lockstep with some of the more vociferous/rabid posters and be driven out of here. And I did see the "atone" comment and thought at the time, who ordained him as the gatekeeper.
Ron Paul worked with all kinds of people he didn't agree with on every issue. We can too. That doesn't mean selling out. But, no one here owns this movement and has no right to dictate who can participate and who cannot. If people don't figure out how to work with others they don't agree with on every issue, we might as well pack up and go home, because we aren't ever going to get anywhere.
And no, that doesn't mean I trust or even like Glenn Beck, because I do not. But, we are damn fools to intentionally make him an enemy and to not figure out how to use him to reinstate the Constitution. Even if that just means having access to his audience, which by the way are low-hanging fruit to most of what Ron Paul believes.
sailingaway
03-02-2013, 01:11 AM
Some of you aren't going to like this, but I think there is a lot of truth in what he says about some libertarians acting like they are the gatekeepers to this movement. I have seen plenty of people who didn't walk lockstep with some of the more vociferous/rabid posters and be driven out of here. And I did see the "atone" comment and thought at the time, who ordained him as the gatekeeper.
Ron Paul worked with all kinds of people he didn't agree with on every issue. We can too. That doesn't mean selling out. But, no one here owns this movement and has no right to dictate who can participate and who cannot.
I don't remember Ron overtly trusting people who had betrayed his trust before. That is what we are talking about here. Not refusing to work with those who LIKE Beck, but refusing to trust Beck himself so quickly when he already played this game before.
UWDude
03-02-2013, 01:15 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?291544-By-God-He-s-Learning-Glenn-Beck-is-Almost-Down-the-Rabbit-Hole!
This was from 2011.
Notice anything? Most of the "Beck's figured it out!" threads on RonPaulForums are in 2009, 2011, 2013. Years without elections.
It's like there's a pattern at play here.
+rep
UWDude
03-02-2013, 01:16 AM
I don't remember Ron overtly trusting people who had betrayed his trust before. That is what we are talking about here. Not refusing to work with those who LIKE Beck, but refusing to trust Beck himself so quickly when he already played this game before.
fool me once, shame on me.
fool me twice shame on me.
fool me thrice shame on me.
fool me again, I'm a damn fool.
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 01:17 AM
I don't remember Ron overtly trusting people who had betrayed his trust before. That is what we are talking about here. Not refusing to work with those who LIKE Beck, but refusing to trust Beck himself so quickly when he already played this game before.
I did NOT say one damn thing indicating that we should trust Beck and no, that is NOT what we are talking about. It's about not shooting ourselves in the foot, like we usually do. There is absolutely nothing to gain in ostracizing Beck, but there sure is a lot to lose.
sailingaway
03-02-2013, 01:26 AM
I did NOT say one damn thing indicating that we should trust Beck and no, that is NOT what we are talking about. It's about not shooting ourselves in the foot, like we usually do. There is absolutely nothing to gain in ostracizing Beck, but there sure is a lot to lose.
I think there is more to be gained by not giving him credibility and more to be lost by giving it.
UWDude
03-02-2013, 01:30 AM
The Tea Party was started by Libertarians.
Insert Beck.
Tea Party becomes a joke and curse word in mainstream thought.
Libertarian Party was started by Libertarians.
Insert Beck....
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 01:48 AM
The Tea Party was started by Libertarians.
Insert Beck.
Tea Party becomes a joke and curse word in mainstream thought.
The Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters; some libertarian and some not. When Rick Santelli made the tea party a household name, most of us didn't take advantage of the opportunity and chose instead to just bitch about it when others did. Therefore, the tea party was swerved in a direction that was not good.
Libertarian Party was started by Libertarians.
The Libertarian Party was started by disgruntled paleoconservatives.
Insert Beck....
Wash, rinse, repeat.
We don't do anything and proceed to bitch when others do. Perhaps we should focus more on what we can do, instead of just sitting and bitching about what someone like Beck is doing.
UWDude
03-02-2013, 01:51 AM
The Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters; some libertarian and some not. When Rick Santelli ....
I don't agree with your historical narrative.
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 02:12 AM
I don't agree with your historical narrative.
Who cares? It's a fact.
Glenn Beck sings the virtues of compromise and says you're a 'fascist' if you want him to apologize for his past transgressions attacking libertarians (for example, calling them terrorists). He then goes on to say libertarians who insist on having principles are "Nazis" and "Fascists."
“This guy [some alleged famous libertarian] wrote, and said if Glenn Beck wants to join our club — meaning Libertarianism — then he has to come and atone for his past transgressions, and I thought, ‘Is that you grand inquisitor?’ What is this, the Spanish Inquisition? You’re more Fascist than some of the Fascists that I’ve seen. And the same thing with many of the hard core Ron Paul supporters.”
[...]
“You Libertarians, you’re Nazis! The fascist Libertarians — you have to agree with absolutely everything! You are more fascist than anybody in the Republican Party because you are — if you don’t walk in step exactly with you, you’re not welcome.”
In other words, you're a fascist if you don't agree with him and his version of all-compromise conservatism masquerading as libertarianism. He finishes his screed by saying "we" can win the White House if we all support Rand Paul or Chris Christie and compromise on everything which makes us libertarian.
Didn't this happen like a week ago?
compromise
03-02-2013, 03:23 AM
The Tea Party was started by Ron Paul supporters; some libertarian and some not. When Rick Santelli made the tea party a household name, most of us didn't take advantage of the opportunity and chose instead to just bitch about it when others did. Therefore, the tea party was swerved in a direction that was not good.
The Libertarian Party was started by disgruntled paleoconservatives.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
We don't do anything and proceed to bitch when others do. Perhaps we should focus more on what we can do, instead of just sitting and bitching about what someone like Beck is doing.
David Nolan was definitely not a paleocon. I don't remember him being a protectionist who wanted a moratorium on immigration.
UWDude
03-02-2013, 03:48 AM
Who cares? It's a fact.
"Rick Santelli made the tea party a household name" is not a fact.
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 07:42 AM
"Rick Santelli made the tea party a household name" is not a fact.
Who do you believe did so?
LibertyEagle
03-02-2013, 07:43 AM
David Nolan was definitely not a paleocon. I don't remember him being a protectionist who wanted a moratorium on immigration.
Nolan didn't do squat by himself.
UWDude
03-02-2013, 01:05 PM
Who do you believe did so?
Astro turfing, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin.
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