CPS Wants Sex Ed For Kindergartners

[green73]

CHICAGO -- Chicago public schools students get their sex education in the fifth grade as most do in the U.S., but CPS wants to change that, so the instruction begins at age 5.

Parents who are uncomfortable with the new policy will be able to opt out. CPS says the curriculum will conform to each age group. For example, kindergartners through third graders will learn about their anatomy, all living things that reproduce, and appropriate and inappropriate touching. While fourth graders will focus on puberty and HIV/AIDs. It's not until after fifth grade that teachers will lead discussions about human reproduction, contraception and abstinence.

The proposed policy follows the "national sexuality education standards" put together by four health organizations.

http://www.abc22now.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/wkef_chicago-proposes-sex-ed-kindergartners-11619.shtml?wap=0

[kathy88]

Oh FFS. This is not going to be good.

[pcosmar]

Why?
Are they doing it wrong?

:confused:

It is not something that should be taught in schools.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

7 years of scare tactic propaganda-- scaring children to death in to being afraid of sex and drugs-- apparently wasn't enough?

[tangent4ronpaul]

What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:

kinda reminds me of this VERY un-PC t-shirt...

http://funnytshirts.savatoons.com/images/touchyou.gif

On second thought, maybe it is very appropriate, considering that they already get the "lab" portion of the class...

http://rlv.zcache.com/show_me_on_the_doll_where_the_bad_tsa_agent_tshirt-re6aebbb639924c279d232e65cfdb874f_804gs_512.jpg

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

7 years of scare tactic propaganda-- scaring children to death in to being afraid of sex and drugs-- apparently wasn't enough?

Every single person I've met that went through D.A.R.E. left that class wanting to try drugs...

I imagine sex-ed classes would have a similar effect...

kindergarten? really?

-t

[belian78]

Every single person I've met that went through D.A.R.E. left that class wanting to try drugs...

I imagine sex-ed classes would have a similar effect...

kindergarten? really?

-t

These are my exact thoughts. WTF are these people thinking, unless it's their goal to introduce sexuality to children at 5years old? I mean, it makes sense if you think about it. The D.A.R.E. program created a new generation of drug users to be entered into the system by way of the WoD, this will create a whole new generation to be entered into the system (ironically enough) to protect the children.

[Rothbardian Girl]

Maybe I'm not normal, but I went through DARE and I've never had the slightest interest in trying drugs. There were moments where I made fun of the program, sure, but it didn't leave me wanting to experiment. While I was still in elementary school, I was given a book that contained pictures of drugs and tables with all kinds of information about them (effects, availability, street names, etc.) and from that point on, I made a conscious decision not to get involved with any of them. Just wasn't worth it.

So yeah, I think school anti-drug initiatives can be effective for certain people. I guess it all comes down to whether you have iron willpower or not. I had/have an incredible amount of self-control when it comes to "risky behavior", so I avoided most of the pitfalls of my generation.

As for the story, I clearly remember starting with the sex-ed stuff in third or fourth grade. Kindergarten does seem extreme, but to me this is really the schools trying to find any excuse to put the lame health classes in the curriculum as early as possible. I guess I just don't see how this equates to indoctrination, because I've never felt as if I was being indoctrinated with anything. The closest I came was in tenth grade history, and I managed to straighten myself out after a few weeks of believing the teacher's crap.

[belian78]

Maybe I'm not normal, but I went through DARE and I've never had the slightest interest in trying drugs. There were moments where I made fun of the program, sure, but it didn't leave me wanting to experiment. While I was still in elementary school, I was given a book that contained pictures of drugs and tables with all kinds of information about them (effects, availability, street names, etc.) and from that point on, I made a conscious decision not to get involved with any of them. Just wasn't worth it.

So yeah, I think school anti-drug initiatives can be effective for certain people. I guess it all comes down to whether you have iron willpower or not. I had/have an incredible amount of self-control when it comes to "risky behavior", so I avoided most of the pitfalls of my generation.

As for the story, I clearly remember starting with the sex-ed stuff in third or fourth grade. Kindergarten does seem extreme, but to me this is really the schools trying to find any excuse to put the lame health classes in the curriculum as early as possible. I guess I just don't see how this equates to indoctrination, because I've never felt as if I was being indoctrinated with anything. The closest I came was in tenth grade history, and I managed to straighten myself out after a few weeks of believing the teacher's crap.
For the most part I'm the same as you when it comes to my time going through DARE, only with me I got the chance to see the ones I may want to try one day, most I ruled out then and have never experienced. The important thing is that I was old enough to have that inner discussion with myself, a five year old child will not be able to. And you know what happens when you tell a child NOT to do something, or you tell them about something that they can't do YET.

[dannno]

Maybe I'm not normal, but I went through DARE and I've never had the slightest interest in trying drugs. There were moments where I made fun of the program, sure, but it didn't leave me wanting to experiment. While I was still in elementary school, I was given a book that contained pictures of drugs and tables with all kinds of information about them (effects, availability, street names, etc.) and from that point on, I made a conscious decision not to get involved with any of them. Just wasn't worth it.

So yeah, I think school anti-drug initiatives can be effective for certain people. I guess it all comes down to whether you have iron willpower or not. I had/have an incredible amount of self-control when it comes to "risky behavior", so I avoided most of the pitfalls of my generation.

As for the story, I clearly remember starting with the sex-ed stuff in third or fourth grade. Kindergarten does seem extreme, but to me this is really the schools trying to find any excuse to put the lame health classes in the curriculum as early as possible. I guess I just don't see how this equates to indoctrination, because I've never felt as if I was being indoctrinated with anything. The closest I came was in tenth grade history, and I managed to straighten myself out after a few weeks of believing the teacher's crap.


When I was in college the girl who helped run the local NORML chapter (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws) won her school's D.A.R.E. award when she was in 6th grade. She was in complete agreement with you at the time, and so was I, I was against drug use as a youngster. But then I tried cannabis when I got older. She tried it. We found out that it is a fun and safe recreational activity. Then we questioned everything, may have experimented with some slightly more dangerous drugs and realized that there are dangers to some types of drug use. Just not with weed. Actually, prescription drugs are probably the most dangerous. And that in the right setting, on occasion, many natural hallucinogens that have been used for spiritual practices throughout time can be consciousness expanding and entertaining.

[Rothbardian Girl]

For the most part I'm the same as you when it comes to my time going through DARE, only with me I got the chance to see the ones I may want to try one day, most I ruled out then and have never experienced. The important thing is that I was old enough to have that inner discussion with myself, a five year old child will not be able to. And you know what happens when you tell a child NOT to do something, or you tell them about something that they can't do YET.

Right. That's why I favor "indirect education" like what happened in my case. My parents never sat down and talked to me explicitly about not trying drugs or underage sex; instead, they conveniently left books about drugs and health lying around the house. I was a voracious reader, so that was how I formed my opinion. I think the best thing to do is to play to a child's natural curiosity (if he or she is intelligent) instead of explicitly trying to convince your child not to do something.

[presence]

And that in the right setting, on occasion, many natural hallucinogens that have been used for spiritual practices throughout time can be consciousness expanding and entertaining.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."..

[Smart3]

I received no sex education in school. Still, most people I knew were well-aware of sex as early as 9 and 10. Didn't act on it though, apparently.

I'm all for sex-ed, and I think it should be taught at every level in order to promote safe-sex. Sure, 5 year olds aren't having sex, but you'd be lying to yourself if you said 12-14 year olds aren't.

[cjm]

This goal here is to keep children illiterate. Most kindergarteners cannot read, write, or perform arithmetic. The more time devoted to other subjects, the less devoted to the three Rs.

[VBRonPaulFan]

reason to homeschool #385482452

on a side note, sex education is wholly inappropriate for a public school setting. that responsibility lies on the parents. but, of course, like good sheep - they wish to abdicate that responsibility like all others to the state.

[heavenlyboy34]

Maybe I'm not normal, but I went through DARE and I've never had the slightest interest in trying drugs. There were moments where I made fun of the program, sure, but it didn't leave me wanting to experiment. While I was still in elementary school, I was given a book that contained pictures of drugs and tables with all kinds of information about them (effects, availability, street names, etc.) and from that point on, I made a conscious decision not to get involved with any of them. Just wasn't worth it.

So yeah, I think school anti-drug initiatives can be effective for certain people. I guess it all comes down to whether you have iron willpower or not. I had/have an incredible amount of self-control when it comes to "risky behavior", so I avoided most of the pitfalls of my generation.

As for the story, I clearly remember starting with the sex-ed stuff in third or fourth grade. Kindergarten does seem extreme, but to me this is really the schools trying to find any excuse to put the lame health classes in the curriculum as early as possible. I guess I just don't see how this equates to indoctrination, because I've never felt as if I was being indoctrinated with anything. The closest I came was in tenth grade history, and I managed to straighten myself out after a few weeks of believing the teacher's crap.
I had the same experience with D.A.R.E. (the DARE cop was the only decent one I've met in person, btw...even had this "detective bear" teddy bear that gave me the lolz) But I didn't get "sex ed" till 6th grade. Before that, they taught Stranger Danger, inappropriate touching, etc.

[heavenlyboy34]

This goal here is to keep children illiterate. Most kindergarteners cannot read, write, or perform arithmetic. The more time devoted to other subjects, the less devoted to the three Rs.
Srsly? :eek: I can remember reading to other kids who were still learning because my parents taught me before teh schools did with the phonics method. :cool: IDR how good at arithmetic I was, but that's always been my weak area. :p

[pacodever]

reason to homeschool #385482452

on a side note, sex education is wholly inappropriate for a public school setting. that responsibility lies on the parents. but, of course, like good sheep - they wish to abdicate that responsibility like all others to the state.

A generation of irresponsible children raising another generation of irresponsible children. Here is what kids are learning from their parents these days:


20 Seconds on the Clock - Kids Grinding
Daniel Tosh puts 20 seconds on the clock at the expense of some miniature whores. (01:08)
- See more at: http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/20-seconds-on-the-clock---kids-grinding#sthash.zssugRx4.dpuf

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/20-seconds-on-the-clock---kids-grinding

[DamianTV]

This is what sucks:

When CPS requires your kindergardener to go to Sex Ed, you will not be allowed to make that choice for your own child.

But when YOU make the conscious choice to teach your kid about the Birds and the Bees at any period they consider to be "too early", you are going to Jail.

Parents are being denied the Right to raise their children as they see fit. Best of luck if you send your child to school with a Turkey Sandwich.

[cjm]

Srsly? :eek: I can remember reading to other kids who were still learning because my parents taught me before teh schools did with the phonics method. :cool: IDR how good at arithmetic I was, but that's always been my weak area. :p

I'm generalizing based on what I've seen at the local grade school. They have an "author's tea" at the end of the school year where kids read to all the parents the stories that they "wrote" (writing in this case is dictating to a parent volunteer who types it up and lets the kids draw/color the accompanying pictures). Easily half the kids couldn't read what they had "written" themselves except for some common short words (the, I, and, etc). Another quarter or so needed help with many words and the remaining quarter could read more or less. I'm assuming that if this is the state at the end of the year, most definitely couldn't read/write when they entered.

WRT arithmetic, I saw that just interacting with my kids' friends.

kid: "Can we have popsicles?"
me: "What's four plus three?"
kid: ":("

There's probably a study out there that shows most kindergarteners can read, write, add, and subtract. But I'd have a hard time believing it.

EDIT: Most of these kids are obviously bright. For the record, I am not criticizing them. NCLB and other programs force schools to teach to the lowest common denominator (math homework in kindergarten is dominated by counting exercises, not arithmetic) and many parents don't make any serious effort to make up the difference. In my opinion, most kids could be reading, writing, adding, and subtracting by kindergarten if families and schools encouraged them to.

[tangent4ronpaul]

I had the same experience with D.A.R.E. (the DARE cop was the only decent one I've met in person, btw...even had this "detective bear" teddy bear that gave me the lolz) But I didn't get "sex ed" till 6th grade. Before that, they taught Stranger Danger, inappropriate touching, etc.

He'll have to bring this bear with him to sex-ed class...

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/rejected-toy-stuffed-pedo.jpg

-t

[BAllen]

Gearing them up for the the next phase of marxist demoralization........ pedophelia...........they're people too. (sarcasm)
http://engagefamilyminute.com/2011/09/legalizing-pedophilia-is-just-ahead/

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

http://right-thinking.com/2011/05/22/church-joins-the-dutch-movement-to-legalize-pedophilia/

[QuickZ06]

D.A.R.E. scared the crap out of me.

[heavenlyboy34]

Gearing them up for the the next phase of marxist demoralization........ pedophelia...........they're people too. (sarcasm)
http://engagefamilyminute.com/2011/09/legalizing-pedophilia-is-just-ahead/

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

http://right-thinking.com/2011/05/22/church-joins-the-dutch-movement-to-legalize-pedophilia/
The problem with this issue is that most people associate the word pedophilia with fully grown adults wanting "relationships" with minor children. However, in some instances, an 18 year old can be considered a pedo for having relations with a 16 or 17 year and 11months old. Pretty ridiculous IMO. It also inflates pedo statistics, giving nanny-staters numbers to scare people with. :P

[tangent4ronpaul]

The problem with this issue is that most people associate the word pedophilia with fully grown adults wanting "relationships" with minor children. However, in some instances, an 18 year old can be considered a pedo for having relations with a 16 or 17 year and 11months old. Pretty ridiculous IMO. It also inflates pedo statistics, giving nanny-staters numbers to scare people with. :P

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.400.400/p403x403/563667_538656549498905_1181701046_n.jpg

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Pedobear_8c8ddd_591475.jpg

-t

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Oh FFS. This is not going to be good.

Why? Anything further bad for Chicago is great for the rest of us. Let Chicago burn yet again. Let them all blast each other to utter hell. You know, I'm not talking about all the good people in Chicago, but just the stupid good people who continue living there.

[heavenlyboy34]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.400.400/p403x403/563667_538656549498905_1181701046_n.jpg

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Pedobear_8c8ddd_591475.jpg

-t
lolz :D

[bolil]

Why? Anything further bad for Chicago is great for the rest of us. Let Chicago burn yet again. Let them all blast each other to utter hell. You know, I'm not talking about all the good people in Chicago, but just the stupid good people who continue living there.

smh.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

Gearing them up for the the next phase of marxist demoralization........ pedophelia...........they're people too. (sarcasm)
http://engagefamilyminute.com/2011/09/legalizing-pedophilia-is-just-ahead/

http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=11517

http://right-thinking.com/2011/05/22/church-joins-the-dutch-movement-to-legalize-pedophilia/

It wasn't until during the time of Christ that a Roman emperor actually refused to allow boys into his harem. It actually made the masses angry at him when he did so. Therefore, the very best way to do away with the acceptance of pedophilia is to do away with tyranny.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.400.400/p403x403/563667_538656549498905_1181701046_n.jpg

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Pedobear_8c8ddd_591475.jpg

-t

An actually living Socratic dinosaur!

[QuickZ06]

It wasn't until during the time of Christ that a Roman emperor actually refused to allow boys into his harem. It actually made the masses angry at him when he did so. Therefore, the very best way to do away with the acceptance of pedophilia is to do away with tyranny.

I know people who WANT to go live there, they are begging to live there :(


If they only knew, and the ones who stay comply unless they are stuck there by the system because of poverty.

[MelissaWV]

The "sex education" they are talking about for little kids is not out of bounds. It's discussions about anatomy and reproduction appropriate to their age.

The big giant elephant in the room is the idea of letting Government decide what's "appropriate" and doing the teaching.

No. Just... no.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

I know people who WANT to go live there, they are begging to live there :(


If they only knew, and the ones who stay comply unless they are stuck there by the system because of poverty.

I know and Houston isn't much better. There is a mark of slime that cuts deep across this city of wayward university students, union employees, gays and lesbians, millions upon millions of minorities, women in the liberation movement, Democrats, and the Houston Texans who will never win a Superbowl.