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sailingaway
02-26-2013, 10:52 AM
Just after our story posted on the polling numbers and popularity of medical-marijuana, the following coincidentally happened to an activist mentioned in the piece:

by Richard Dymond of the Bradenton Herald

The Cathy Jordan Medical Cannabis Act will come before Florida legislators in 2013 in honor of a wheelchair Parrish woman who has fought for the past 16 years for the legalization of medical cannabis in Florida.

But, Cathy Jordan’s celebrity in the area of medical cannabis, including her conviction that the herb has helped her battle her Lou Gehrig’s disease, does not insulate her from existing marijuana laws.

Jordan’s husband, Robert, told the Herald that his Parrish home in Beck Estates on 98th Avenue in Parrish was raided shortly after 2 p.m. Monday by deputies and detectives with the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office drug intervention unit who wore ski masks.


No arrests were made Monday but a total of 23 marijuana plants, including two waist-high nearly mature plants that Cathy Jordan uses for her treatment plan, and a crop of seedlings, were confiscated by authorities, Robert Jordan said.
When reached Monday night, Dave Bristow, a sheriff’s office spokesman, could not confirm the raid or whether arrests were made.

Robert Jordan said no arrests were made, but charges are pending.

“My wife is not happy,” Jordan said. “It really upset her. I am very protective of my wife. She can’t feed herself. She got really upset and started crying. None of this should have happened.”

Cathy Jordan told the Herald in 1998 that she lights up a marijuana cigarette and smokes it before going to bed each night.

“I regained my appetite after I started smoking,” she said at the time. “It helps the pain and helps me to relax.”

Florida Sen. Jeff Clemens, D-Lake Worth, is proposing the Senate bill after proposing a constitutional amendment in 2011 and 2012 that would allowed Floridians to vote on the issue of legalization of medical marijuana.

Clemens said Monday he was angry about the raid on the Jordan house.

“Do we want to be the kind of state that raids the home of a woman in a wheelchair in order to enforce outdated laws?” Clemens said Monday night.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/02/fl-cops-raid-home-of-wheelchair-bound-rx-marijuana-activist-whos-to-have-legislation-named-for-her.html#storylink=cpy

there's more, but apparently the answer is yes, and don't you dare push for its legalization, either.

talkingpointes
02-26-2013, 11:16 AM
How there are any minarchist left and being exposed to stuff like this day in and day out is beyond me. Even if we completely dismantled the federal government spending programs and all -- we still have the people that shoot, kill, and rape us under the premise of protection.

FSP-Rebel
02-26-2013, 11:20 AM
How there are any minarchist left and being exposed to stuff like this day in and day out is beyond me. Even if we completely dismantled the federal government spending programs and all -- we still have the people that shoot, kill, and rape us under the premise of protection.
It's up to the citizenry to use their reps and/or push for better reps to put a leash on this sort of activity. Also, a judge signed a warrant based on sketchy data points and should be held accountable for this.

coastie
02-26-2013, 11:20 AM
If there's one thing I hate the most about this state, it's our laws on this PLANT, which are the worst in the union.

20gr = FELONY possession. 20 fucking grams.
Pipe?= Misdemeanor/ 1 year in jail
ONE to 25 plants = FELONY cultivation. 5 years prison.
over 25 plants? 15 years in prison.

Seed in your car? Straight to jail, usually at least 3 years of piss-testing probation.

Czolgosz
02-26-2013, 11:35 AM
"Do we want to be the kind of state that raids the home of a woman in a wheelchair in order to enforce outdated laws?” Clemens said Monday night."


"It doesn't affect me personally, so I don't really care."

-Most Humans

coastie
02-26-2013, 11:46 AM
"Do we want to be the kind of state that raids the home of a woman in a wheelchair in order to enforce outdated laws?” Clemens said Monday night."


"It doesn't affect me personally, so I don't really care."

-Most Humans


"The law is the law." And if there isn't a law..."Well, there oughta be a law."- most Floridians.

When people say shit like this, I always counter with this:

"You're right-the law is the law. Hope you didn't go down on your wife, or vice versa last night-that's illegal here in Florida. Did she bend over for you(doggy style)? Illegal. Only missionary is legal here. " THEN it somehow becomes "nobody's business what I do in my home".

I wish smacking the shit out of idiots a la Bernie Mack wasn't illegal...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4ZGQnAjlk

pacodever
02-26-2013, 11:52 AM
:mad: ALS is devastating to the individual and their family. My grandmother battled it for several horrible years. This woman, was diagnosed in 1986, and given 3 - 5 years to live according to her neurologist and is still fighting almost 30 years later! She must be doing something right.

A wheel-chair bound, ALS diagnosed smoking marijuana at home is not a threat to society. Marijuana is not a threat to society. The only threat here are the state-sanctioned thugs running around in ski masks, busting into people's homes.

talkingpointes
02-26-2013, 12:03 PM
It's up to the citizenry to use their reps and/or push for better reps to put a leash on this sort of activity. Also, a judge signed a warrant based on sketchy data points and should be held accountable for this.

How do put a leash on something that could be best described as a hoover vacuum for the more controlling and socio/psychopathic types? It just needs to be privatized, having a system that has a rigging ability from the get-go is one of the dumbest ideas I can think being put forward. In decentralized system, with difference through competitors you will have a range of levels in disciplinary actions and integrity. In the current system the only feedback is through letters to the stations (city/county/state) or making some sort of public appeal. Which never amounts to shit. The police obviously feel so-safe in most cases they kill the animals and anyone being insubordinate no matter how nuanced the initial call was. When they show up all bets are off. You and everyone else knows or feels this, but it's pretty hard to deny in the wake of all the evidence as of late. The ability to hide this crimes or cover them up are futile at best now, however when you have a team of local media personalities to further deny and wrong doing (or promote it as such) and try to assassinate the character of the person causing the ruacus you can see where this is going.

They don't play by any rules, and if you are to directly go against them -you will as someone stated before, "we'll find you committed suicide by shooting yourself in the back of the head with multiple calibers".

In the world of privatization there is IMMEDIATE recourse through the justice system. Especially when the tide of nationalism has dropped from state security. The feeling they are *sigh* heroes. Sorry to bust any bubbles here, even the most righteous of us can be twisted internally into knots over being pulled over.

Czolgosz
02-26-2013, 12:04 PM
I wish smacking the shit out of idiots a la Bernie Mack wasn't illegal...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY4ZGQnAjlk


It's only illegal if you're caught. :D

fisharmor
02-26-2013, 12:04 PM
20gr = FELONY possession. 20 fucking grams.

For the metric disinclined, this is less than an ounce.
1oz avoirdupois = 28.35 grams

Also, for further context, Florida is the state with the most punitive law in terms of disenfranchising citizens with past felony convictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#United_States).

Hey Coastie, I've learned a lot about Florida today.... :toady:

coastie
02-26-2013, 12:12 PM
For the metric disinclined, this is less than an ounce.
1oz avoirdupois = 28.35 grams

Also, for further context, Florida is the state with the most punitive law in terms of disenfranchising citizens with past felony convictions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#United_States).

Hey Coastie, I've learned a lot about Florida today.... :toady:


heh:p

FSP-Rebel
02-26-2013, 12:16 PM
In the world of privatization there is IMMEDIATE recourse through the justice system. Especially when the tied of nationalism has dropped from state security.
I'm all for competing security operations it's just that it's a non-starter in the hopes of reigning in the current policing system by using the general public in terms of urging them to support better candidates for office that would limit overreaching authority of said police. I operate through a minarchist lens since it's easier to inch people closer to common sense smaller govt solutions than beating them over the head with the red pill and losing them completely. The ancap talk can begin once the govt has been reigned in thoroughly and the public at large is of a mindset of liberty. Even tho I am an ancap, I stay out of that little world to reach the broader public, specifically republicans, and pick them off one by one and show the brainwashed the appeals of more liberty and how the establishment on both sides is screwing them repeatedly. The facial expression I continually get by exposing certain doses of truth to these people is priceless as they begin to see the bigger picture that they're not normally privy to.

ZENemy
02-26-2013, 12:16 PM
It's up to the citizenry to use their reps and/or push for better reps to put a leash on this sort of activity. Also, a judge signed a warrant based on sketchy data points and should be held accountable for this.

LOL

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-26-2013, 12:19 PM
"The law is the law." And if there isn't a law..."Well, there oughta be a law."- most Floridians.


http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/25/v-fullstory/3253273/poll-7-in-10-back-fl-medical-marijuana.html


I think these are the poll numbers referenced. Apparently, enough floridians are in favor of medical mj to pass a constitutional amendment.

talkingpointes
02-26-2013, 12:22 PM
I'm all for competing security operations it's just that it's a non-starter in the hopes of reigning in the current policing system by using the general public in terms of urging them to support better candidates for office that would limit overreaching authority of said police. I operate through a minarchist lens since it's easier to inch people closer to common sense smaller govt solutions than beating them over the head with the red pill and losing them completely. The ancap talk can begin once the govt has been reigned in thoroughly and the public at large is of a mindset of liberty. Even tho I am an ancap, I stay out of that little world to reach the broader public, specifically republicans, and pick them off one by one and show the brainwashed the appeals of more liberty and how the establishment on both sides is screwing them repeatedly. The facial expression I continually get by exposing certain doses of truth to these people is priceless as they begin to see the bigger picture that they're not normally privy to.

Cool story bro. We're on the internet with our own ilk. What more can I say to that. It's borderline offensive in it's assumptions. Also don't walk away from your first post. Because in hindsight it's almost laughable in any context.

Lucille
02-26-2013, 12:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTM2HQ0g98

h/t to Gunny

coastie
02-26-2013, 12:24 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/25/v-fullstory/3253273/poll-7-in-10-back-fl-medical-marijuana.html


I think these are the poll numbers referenced. Apparently, enough floridians are in favor of medical mj to pass a constitutional amendment.

Cool, thanks for the info. Shows how jaded I am on this issue in this state, I had no idea it was even remotely this popular here, we're full of blue-hairs that still think MJ causes you to rape women and run around naked with a raging boner.

coastie
02-26-2013, 12:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTM2HQ0g98

h/t to Gunny


We can all agree that Cali should be the first to go. Florida has potential, and our beaches are MUCH better, and cleaner.



But we must rescue danno before we send bugs over there with his saw...

Lucille
02-26-2013, 12:26 PM
I agree on both counts, coastie!

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-26-2013, 12:33 PM
Cool, thanks for the info. Shows how jaded I am on this issue in this state, I had no idea it was even remotely this popular here, we're full of blue-hairs that still think MJ causes you to rape women and run around naked with a raging boner.


I was similarly surprised. I believe the legislature has refused to take up the issue on several occasions after introduction. It's just like those fucks elsewhere who killed a bill in committee because they were getting too many supporting phone calls.


I randomly ran across that headline this morning. It seems support is broader than I expected, but people are leery of sticking their neck out for obvious reasons.

speciallyblend
02-26-2013, 12:38 PM
sure makes "many" police look like the scum they are.

pacodever
02-26-2013, 12:43 PM
Cool, thanks for the info. Shows how jaded I am on this issue in this state, I had no idea it was even remotely this popular here, we're full of blue-hairs that still think MJ causes you to rape women and run around naked with a raging boner.

Viagra?


At a stage in life when many would expect sexually transmitted diseases to be waning, aging babyboomers are once again busting stereotypes, setting records and breaking rules.

In the five years from 2005 to 2009, the number of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among those 55 and older increased 43 percent, according to an Orlando Sentinel analysis of data provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In the Sunbelt where retirees have formed large communities, the rise was even more dramatic.

For instance, in Arizona's Maricopa and Pima counties — home to large retirement communities just outside Phoenix — the percent of reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased twice as fast as the national average from 2005 to 2009. Reported cases were up 87 percent among those 55 and older in those counties.

In Central Florida, where The Villages and other retirement communities sprawl across several counties, reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia increased 71 percent among those 55 and older in that same period. And South Florida saw a 60 percent rise in those two sexually transmitted infections among the same age group, according to the Florida Department of Health.

In Riverside County, Calif., home to retirement mecca Palm Springs, reported cases were up 50 percent over the five-year span, according to data from that county's health department.

The reported cases of syphilis and chlamydia among older adults outpaced the nation's average, according to the analysis. Among all age groups nationwide, reported cases of syphilis increased 60 percent between 2005 and 2009, while in the 55 to 64 age group it increased 70 percent. Meanwhile, the incidences of chlamydia rose 27 percent among all ages, and double that among those age 55 to 64.


The factors driving the rise of STDs in the older set include Americans living longer, healthier lives and a new class of medications, which include Viagra, making more sex possible. Many older adults didn't get the safe-sex messages that younger generations received, say experts, so their condom use is lower. In addition, more seniors are living in group retirement communities where there's more socializing.

"These seniors may lose a spouse, then get lonely," said Dr. Jason Salagubang, a geriatrician on staff at Florida Hospital Apopka. "They're living in retirement communities with others in the same boat, and sparks fly."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-05-16/health/os-seniors-stds-national-20110516_1_std-cases-syphilis-and-chlamydia-older-adults