Vietnam Vet Kills Home Intruder After Epic Fight

[TywinLannister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y0GGlGWwLNE

[Cowlesy]

You have to love our news media outlets. A guy breaks into a house, bashes the home owner in the head with the home owner's shotgun to the point the home owner has to get staples in his head, the home owner is able to get a revolver and shoots the guy dead in his house...and the news media lets us know "Police haven't said anything about possible charges in the case" like that's a bad thing.

Brave New World.

[BAllen]

Good for him! Protecting his home and his life.

[AFPVet]

I like what one of the commenters posted "The only charge should be to the intruder's estate for a new door."

[AuH20]

Why didn't this guy get his due process???

[presence]

The only charge should be to the intruder's estate for a new door


I vote YES!

[asurfaholic]

Why didn't this guy get his due process???

Are you serious?

[Czolgosz]

He should have called 911!

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Are you serious?

Isn't that what people said about Dorner, conveniently ignoring his own actions?

[asurfaholic]

Isn't that what people said about Dorner, conveniently ignoring his own actions?

Two different situations. Here is private citizen v home intruder who was in the act of assaulting the homeowner with a deadly weapon. Dorner situation is completely different. He was targeted to be killed looong after his crimes were comitted. Police shouldnt have that power.

But you are damn crazy to suggest a person cant defend themselves from an ongoing assault. There is no due process if you are bashing me in the head.

Wtf, why did i even have to say all that?

[AuH20]

Are you serious?

I was being sarcastic. :)

[pacodever]

Good thing the VA didn't list him on NICS and have the ATF confiscate his weapons...

[VoluntaryAmerican]

You have to love our news media outlets. A guy breaks into a house, bashes the home owner in the head with the home owner's shotgun to the point the home owner has to get staples in his head, the home owner is able to get a revolver and shoots the guy dead in his house...and the news media lets us know "Police haven't said anything about possible charges in the case" like that's a bad thing.

Brave New World.

The piece was positive. :confused:

If you're going to criticize the media you should understand inverted pyramid style.

http://i.imgur.com/SuJJVbg.png

The last things mentioned should always the least important, in this case potential charges against the home owner, because it is highly unlikely he did any wrongdoing. I would of done it the same way.

[oyarde]

Pretty good thread on this at RevBox with all the details in off topic titled a friend shot and killed intruder.

[Tod]

Kind of highlights the fact that in close quarters, a long gun might not be the best tool for the job.

[oyarde]

I prefer a tomahawk for close in work.

[oyarde]

Kind of highlights the fact that in close quarters, a long gun might not be the best tool for the job. Always a bad day if someone gets between you and the end of your long weapon.

[AGRP]

Are you serious?

No. Just trolling as usual.

[Todd]

Why didn't this guy get his due process???

Exactly. Guy should have used a drone instead of a gun.

[GunnyFreedom]

Always a bad day if someone gets between you and the end of your long weapon.

Only if you don't know how to immediately transition into a horizontal butt-stroke.

[GunnyFreedom]

No charges will be filed. We passed HB650 in 2011 which was signed into law, creating real Castle Doctrine in NC. This gentleman is in no danger whatsoever.

[Petar]

The piece was positive. :confused:

If you're going to criticize the media you should understand inverted pyramid style.

http://i.imgur.com/SuJJVbg.png

The last things mentioned should always the least important, in this case potential charges against the home owner, because it is highly unlikely he did any wrongdoing. I would of done it the same way.

I don't think that you understand what is called "the takeway".

It is "the message that viewers are left with", and this is how the corporate news propagandizes the masses.

[torchbearer]

I prefer a tomahawk for close in work.

oklahoma?
got relatives in del city. some cherokees.

[AuH20]

I prefer a tomahawk for close in work.

Cold Steel War Club


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi_ldw-a8gw

[GunnyFreedom]

Phil4Paul knows this gentleman personally, I hear.

[phill4paul]

Yes this individual is my friend, Glen. Paul is recovering well and is an ornery old goat.

They released the name of intruder on Tuesday and a quick google search got me this info.... Which I will repost from http://www.revolutionbox.org/Thread-A-friend-shot-and-killed-intruder?page=2

http://www.wcnc.com/news/neighborhood-ne...76365.html

ETA: What the hell.For some reason this page has since been removed......

http://media.wcnc.com/images/470*264/Villareal+and+Jordan+arrest+3-15.jpg



Neighbor helps police arrest 2 men in TV theft

LINCOLNTON, N.C. – A neighbor is being credited with helping Lincolnton police arrest a pair of men who allegedly stole a TV.
Police say the neighbor saw two men break into a home in the 1900 block of Pleasant Grove Church Road in Crouse Wednesday morning.
“The neighbor saw the two men drive their SUV behind the neighbor’s home and went to investigate.
He saw the men put a 32-inch flat screen TV in their vehicle and speed away from the scene,” the police report states.
That neighbor quickly called police and gave a description of the car the two men left the scene in, and Lincolnton police pulled over a burgundy Ford Explorer where the alleged stolen television was found.
Jonathan Lamar Jordan, 31, and Walter Villarreal, 23, of Hickory were arrested and charged with one felony count each of breaking and entering, larceny after breaking and entering and possession of stolen goods.
“It’s good to have people that care about their neighbors,” said Lincoln County Sheriff David Carpenter.
Jordan and Villarreal were placed at the Harven A. Crouse Detention Center under separate $30,000 secured bonds.


ETA: It gets even worse. What the hell was this guy doing out of prison less than a year with these priors?

"According to the North Carolina Department of Correction’s records, Jordan had a nearly three-year prison stay for felony breaking and entering and felony possession of a firearm by a felon in Vance County in 2007. He was convicted of felony larceny in Warren County two years earlier and common law robbery in the same county in 2003."

http://www.lincolntimesnews.com/?p=49578

2003: Common law robbery.
2005: Felony larceny.
2007: Felony breaking and entering and felony possession of a firearm by a felon.
2012: Felony count of breaking and entering, larceny after breaking and entering and possession of stolen goods.
2013: Attempted felony larceny, assault with a deadly weapon. DECEASED.


ETA: The police still have his guns and cell phone. He has bought a new phone. Still looking for a new sidearm. He went to one pawn and they refused to sell to him because of the noteriety. Many gun supporters mad at the pawn store now. Several individuals and institutions have stepped forward to help pay for the purchase of a side arm. As it stands he is not unarmed, friends don't let friends go unarmed, just looking for his own.

[malkusm]

2003: Common law robbery.
2005: Felony larceny.
2007: Felony breaking and entering and felony possession of a firearm by a felon.
2012: Felony count of breaking and entering, larceny after breaking and entering and possession of stolen goods.
2013: Attempted felony larceny, assault with a deadly weapon. DECEASED.

Some guys don't know how to get up and walk away from the table, it seems.

[Origanalist]

ETA: The police still have his guns and cell phone. He has bought a new phone. Still looking for a new sidearm. He went to one pawn and they refused to sell to him because of the noteriety. Many gun supporters mad at the pawn store now. Several individuals and institutions have stepped forward to help pay for the purchase of a side arm. As it stands he is not unarmed, friends don't let friends go unarmed, just looking for his own.

What complete crap, what gives them the right to take his firearm much less his dam phone? "Many gun supporters mad at the pawn store now" No kidding, punish the victim.

[phill4paul]

Some guys don't know how to get up and walk away from the table, it seems.

Apparently. And as yet I have not seen a newsprint account of Jordan's arrest record in any follow up articles. However, they do like to reiterate "Police are still investigating and the D.A. will decide if any charges will be filed in the shooting."

I can honestly say that there had better not or it will open a can of worms. Some D.A. or judge is going to have to answer why this individual was out of prison to attempt to rob Paul less than a year after the last felony conviction.

[phill4paul]

What complete crap, what gives them the right to take his firearm much less his dam phone? "Many gun supporters mad at the pawn store now" No kidding, punish the victim.

Yes. Punish the victim. The police have told them it could take up to two months for the police investigation and D.A. review.

[phill4paul]

About the fullest account of the situation....

http://www.hickoryrecord.com/news/article_9a65a008-7fad-11e2-85de-0019bb30f31a.html

Paul says "Joe Biden can go F- himself."

[BAllen]

About the fullest account of the situation....

http://www.hickoryrecord.com/news/article_9a65a008-7fad-11e2-85de-0019bb30f31a.html

Paul says "Joe Biden can go F- himself."

He'd probably like it.

[Lucille]

Submitted to Cato

http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense

[phill4paul]

Submitted to Cato

http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense

Thanks, I was going to do this after reading your post.

[Lucille]

Thanks, I was going to do this after reading your post.

I think there are a lot of incidents that they don't have mapped! I checked a few linked in these threads, and many weren't there (DE in the 2nd link, for one):

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?383940-Cases-in-which-guns-saved-lives

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?211111-This-weeks-heartwarming-firearm-news

[CaptainAmerica]

the media is fucking stupid. "and he shot him to death"...well fuck, the intruder had a SHOTGUN. for fuck sake.

[phill4paul]

I think there are a lot of incidents that they don't have mapped! I checked a few linked in these threads, and many weren't there (DE in the 2nd link, for one):

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?383940-Cases-in-which-guns-saved-lives

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?211111-This-weeks-heartwarming-firearm-news

I think it is a worth while endeavor. There was another shooting of an intruder in Hickory not long back. I'm going to submit that one when I find it and then search back over a period of one year for the western Carolinas.

[Lucille]

Oh I agree it is. I didn't submit that DE one, btw!

[MRK]

The piece was positive. :confused:

If you're going to criticize the media you should understand inverted pyramid style.

http://i.imgur.com/SuJJVbg.png

The last things mentioned should always the least important, in this case potential charges against the home owner, because it is highly unlikely he did any wrongdoing. I would of done it the same way.

Here's the thing about that bro. The last thing mentioned in an article is what psychologically you remember most. So the seemingly innocent "Other General Info" tidbit at the end is an easy way to prime someone with propaganda. If you don't believe me, do some experiments with a blog or something then ask your friends what they remember most about the article.

[alucard13mmfmj]

If he is going to get cahrged.. I think it depends on how many times he shot the guy and if the guy had his back turned.

I hope the homeowner didnt go overboard that might get him in trouble because of the spur of the moment.

[phill4paul]

If he is going to get cahrged.. I think it depends on how many times he shot the guy and if the guy had his back turned.

I hope the homeowner didnt go overboard that might get him in trouble because of the spur of the moment.

First shot was to the abdomen. Assailant pressed attack so he fired four more times into assailants chest at point blank. He was convinced the assailant was going to kill him and has 12 staples in his scalp as proof.

[jtap]

Only if you don't know how to immediately transition into a horizontal butt-stroke.

I'm not sure how I missed this, but can you please educate us on "horizontal butt-stroking"? :D Assuming you are proficient enough at butt-stroking to demonstrate and instruct.

Seriously though, credit to this guy for overcoming his attacker and exercising his rights successfully.

[TywinLannister]

I prefer a tomahawk for close in work.

Me too.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4543758471792469&pid=1.7&w=201&h=149&c=7&rs=1