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american.swan
02-23-2013, 06:53 PM
I'm looking for some evidence Ted Cruz is firmly in the establishment camp.

Thanks.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 07:07 PM
Ron Paul and Rand Paul both endorsed Ted Cruz. That's a big plus for Ted.


Cruz was born in Canada so he's not eligible to become president.

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz: Constitutionally Qualified to be President? (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14163-texas-sen-ted-cruz-constitutionally-qualified-to-be-president)
10 January 2013

sailingaway
02-23-2013, 07:09 PM
In my opinion Ron endorsed Cruz, way late in the process, and long after De Mint and Rand had, for Rand. His statement was that Rand would have someone to work with. I think he also got assurances on the Fed and NDAA, which Cruz has been good on, so far at least. But Cruz seems to be the 'other side of the tea party' when it comes to foreign policy, and seems to be getting a lot of 'legs up' for such a newcomer.

We'll see.

LibertyEagle
02-23-2013, 07:14 PM
I'm still waiting to see. My biggest question about him was always foreign policy. I called his office about it a couple of weeks ago and they say he is not for all these wars and "spreading democracy around the world" at the end of a gun. But, time will tell.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 07:17 PM
I'm still waiting to see. My biggest question about him was always foreign policy. I called his office about it a couple of weeks ago and they say he is not for all these wars and "spreading democracy around the world" at the end of a gun. But, time will tell.
Yeah, his biggest weakness could be on foreign policy. We need to watch his votes closely to see how he measures up.

austin944
02-23-2013, 07:18 PM
Ron Paul and Rand Paul both endorsed Ted Cruz. That's a big plus for Ted.

Ron Paul also endorsed Lamar Smith, author of SOPA. I respect RP but his endorsements don't carry a lot of weight with me.

sailingaway
02-23-2013, 07:21 PM
Ron Paul also endorsed Lamar Smith, author of SOPA. I respect RP but his endorsements don't carry a lot of weight with me.

They carry some with me, enough to get me to look into them with interest. IMHO he has three basic sets of endorsements 1) duty endorsements while he was in office, (smith, other Texans due to a deal he made, which he told supporters about), 2) 'they are better than others on one or more key issues' endorsements/possibly promised votes on issues (I'm thinking Cruz is in here, not in the Lamar Smith category) and 3) actual liberty candidates he sends out emails to fundraise for and campaigns with.

thoughtomator
02-23-2013, 07:37 PM
I learned a very disturbing piece of info on Ted Cruz - his wife is apparently a VP at Goldman Sachs.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 07:47 PM
This could be troubling:


Ted's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations and served on the North American Union task force.


Politico.com: (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1011/A_pit_of_vipers_also_his_wife.html)


Well, Cruz should know: The candidate's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations until this June. She was a member until June on a 5-year "term membership" program, an official at the organization confirmed.

UPDATE: A reader notes that in addition to her term membership at the CFR, Heidi Cruz served on the task force that wrote "Building a North American Community," a report (http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102) from CFR on relations between the United States, Mexico and Canada.

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-23-2013, 07:51 PM
I learned a very disturbing piece of info on Ted Cruz - his wife is apparently a VP at Goldman Sachs.




Ted's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations and served on the North American Union task force.


Politico.com: (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1011/A_pit_of_vipers_also_his_wife.html)

[INDENT]Well, Cruz should know: The candidate's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations until this June. She was a member until June on a 5-year "term membership" program, an official at the organization confirmed.


Hmmmm. I'm not getting warm fuzzies.

Spoa
02-23-2013, 08:04 PM
So far, we only have one foreign issue vote to judge Senator Cruz on: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00009

He voted correctly.

The thing to judge him on is his vote on Senator Paul's sequester replacement that cuts 50% of foreign aid funding.

LibertyEagle
02-23-2013, 08:35 PM
This could be troubling:


Ted's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations and served on the North American Union task force.


Politico.com: (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1011/A_pit_of_vipers_also_his_wife.html)


Well, Cruz should know: The candidate's wife, Heidi S. Cruz, was an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations until this June. She was a member until June on a 5-year "term membership" program, an official at the organization confirmed.

UPDATE: A reader notes that in addition to her term membership at the CFR, Heidi Cruz served on the task force that wrote "Building a North American Community," a report (http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102) from CFR on relations between the United States, Mexico and Canada.


No, that doesn't look good at all. :(

mz10
02-23-2013, 08:59 PM
I'm still waiting to see. My biggest question about him was always foreign policy. I called his office about it a couple of weeks ago and they say he is not for all these wars and "spreading democracy around the world" at the end of a gun. But, time will tell.

I saw a headline that he said he was "a lot less hawkish" than other Republicans on foreign policy. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say he wants to arm Israel to defend themselves, but not get involved with any wars. Not non-interventionism by any means, but a lot better than Graham-McCain globalism.

fr33
02-23-2013, 09:49 PM
We knew all of this CFR and Goldman Sachs stuff about Cruz before he was elected or even nominated. It was posted here.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 09:52 PM
We knew all of this CFR and Goldman Sachs stuff about Cruz before he was elected or even nominated. It was posted here.
I'm the one who probably posted it. I didn't know, however, that his wife was on the North American Union task force.

Edit: I was.

10 March 2011 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?283098-Faux-%28Neo%29-Conservatives-Defend-the-North-American-Union&highlight=Heidi+Cruz)

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 09:59 PM
Ted Cruz: The Council on Foreign Relations is a "Pit of Vipers" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfAHy_UrqH4)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfAHy_UrqH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfAHy_UrqH4

sailingaway
02-23-2013, 10:01 PM
Hm. That looks like some serious pandering, under the circumstances. My opinion of him just dropped a few notches.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 10:05 PM
Hm. That looks like some serious pandering, under the circumstances. My opinion of him just dropped a few notches.
Ted Cruz has a good voting record and he slams the CFR and the United Nations. What's the issue?

fr33
02-23-2013, 10:11 PM
Ted Cruz has a good voting record and he slams the CFR and the United Nations. What's the issue?

Just wait. If he doesn't delve into crony capitalism or nation building; I'll be surprised.

Pisces
02-23-2013, 10:16 PM
Ted Cruz: The Council on Foreign Relations is a "Pit of Vipers" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNWEN2yw-s)



Maybe he's saying this based on his wife's experience with them. I don't think it is all pandering because he took on a lot of cases concerning national and state sovereignty issues as Texas solicitor general. Gregg Abbot was probably a good influence on him and may have counteracted the Bush influence.

Cruz was a top student at Harvard law school. I believe his wife has a similar background. I think it is only natural that they would be invited to join many of these groups like the CFR. It's still troubling, but I don't think you can assume that they have to be secret globablists because of it. Dave Nalle wrote an article stating that Heidi Cruz's contribution to the North American Union task force was one paragraph in an article written by the task force. That could be spin though. I think we are just going to have to watch and see how he votes. All I can say is that he wasn't afraid to take on the GOP establishment in Texas. They were all for Dewhurst and against Cruz in the primary. I think Abbott was the only statewide office-holder that didn't endorse Dewhurst.

sailingaway
02-23-2013, 10:18 PM
Maybe he's saying this based on his wife's experience with them. I don't think it is all pandering because he took on a lot of cases concerning national and state sovereignty issues as Texas solicitor general. Gregg Abbot was probably a good influence on him and may have counteracted the Bush influence.

Cruz was a top student at Harvard law school. I believe his wife has a similar background. I think it is only natural that they would be invited to join many of these groups like the CFR. It's still troubling, but I don't think you can assume that they have to be secret globablists because of it. Dave Nalle wrote an article stating that Heidi Cruz's contribution to the North American Union task force was one paragraph in an article written by the task force. That could be spin though. I think we are just going to have to watch and see how he votes. All I can say is that he wasn't afraid to take on the GOP establishment in Texas. They were all for Dewhurst and against Cruz in the primary. I think Abbott was the only statewide office-holder that didn't endorse Dewhurst.

If she was on the North American Union taskforce or whatever it is, that is more involved specifically in globalism than just being well connected, well educated folks.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 10:18 PM
Just wait. If he doesn't delve into crony capitalism or nation building; I'll be surprised.
Keep an eye on his votes and report back.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 10:20 PM
If she was on the North American Union taskforce or whatever it is, that is more involved specifically in globalism than just being well connected, well educated folks.

Here's the official CFR link showing Heidi Cruz being on the North American "Community" task force.

http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102

Pisces
02-23-2013, 10:25 PM
If she was on the North American Union taskforce or whatever it is, that is more involved specifically in globalism than just being well connected, well educated folks.

It depends on how many people were on this task force. Often these task forces have a lot of names on them but just a few people do most of the work. She was a CFR term member, when her five year term was up, she was no longer a member. My point is that groups like the CFR are always trying to recruit top students from Ivy League schools. Maybe while working on the task force, she learned enough to be troubled by the organization. Maybe that's why her husband spent so much time campaigning on sovereignty issues. I can't think of any other tea party or anti-establishment candidate that went after Agenda 21 and the UN as much as Cruz did. Maybe it's all an act but there's more than one way to look at it. People should keep their eyes open but be open-minded and not always assume the worst about people.

sailingaway
02-23-2013, 10:29 PM
It depends on how many people were on this task force. Often these task forces have a lot of names on them but just a few people do most of the work. She was a CFR term member, when her five year term was up, she was no longer a member. My point is that groups like the CFR are always trying to recruit top students from Ivy League schools. Maybe while working on the task force, she learned enough to be troubled by the organization. Maybe that's why her husband spent so much time campaigning on sovereignty issues. I can't think of any other tea party or anti-establishment candidate that went after Agenda 21 and the UN as much as Cruz did. Maybe it's all an act but there's more than one way to look at it. People should keep their eyes open but be open-minded and not always assume the worst about people.
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Maybe. I didn't know his record on Agenda 21 and the UN, so I'll keep an open mind.

FrankRep
02-23-2013, 10:38 PM
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Maybe. I didn't know his record on Agenda 21 and the UN, so I'll keep an open mind.

Ted Cruz has been hammering Agenda 21 for a while now.

Stop Agenda 21: The Constitution should be our only “Agenda.” (http://www.tedcruz.org/blog/2012/01/20/stop-agenda-21-the-constitution-should-be-our-only-%E2%80%9Cagenda-%E2%80%9D/)
TedCruz.com - January 20, 2012