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sailingaway
02-22-2013, 09:20 PM
Many Europeans are fretting these days over horse meat, and whether it might have adulterated their shepherd’s pie. Over here, it’s all about the red snapper.

That tempting seafood delight glistening on the ice at the market, or sizzling at the restaurant table in its aromatic jacket of garlic and ginger? It may not be at all what you think, or indeed even close, according to a big new study of fish bought and genetically tested in 12 parts of the country — in restaurants, markets and sushi bars — by a nonprofit ocean protection group, Oceana.

In the 120 samples labeled red snapper and bought for testing nationwide, for example, 28 different species of fish were found, including 17 that were not even in the snapper family, according to the study, which was released Thursday.

The study also contained surprises about where consumers were most likely to be misled — sushi bars topped the list in every city studied — while grocery stores were most likely to be selling fish honestly. Restaurants ranked in the middle

more: http://usahitman.com/sftfonwls/

Uriel999
02-22-2013, 09:21 PM
more: http://usahitman.com/sftfonwls/

my red snapper is the real deal...cause you can't fake an entire fish!

angelatc
02-22-2013, 09:28 PM
DH is in the business. He says this survey comes out every few years, and they always use snapper for a reason. There is some fraud in the market, but most of this is because different parts of the country and the world call different fish "snapper" and "red snapper" even though that's not the official FDA name for it.

It's just part of the meme that we can't trust each other, and we need government to regulate everything to protect us.

paulbot24
02-22-2013, 09:38 PM
With the strange radioactive marine life coming over from Japan these days, they might have a larger problem brewing. "Would you like to try one of our specialty dishes? We have fluorescent snapper or my personal favorite, glowstick snapper."

TywinLannister
02-22-2013, 10:52 PM
I always suspected something fishy was going on.

Anti Federalist
02-23-2013, 12:14 AM
With the strange radioactive marine life coming over from Japan these days, they might have a larger problem brewing. "Would you like to try one of our specialty dishes? We have fluorescent snapper or my personal favorite, glowstick snapper."

http://wolfsong.1colony.com/Blinky.gif

Anti Federalist
02-23-2013, 12:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gih1M_TdVk

Anti Federalist
02-23-2013, 12:16 AM
Ok, I'll go now...

oyarde
02-23-2013, 12:34 AM
If you are buying fish, probably not marked correctly, alot of the time,do you care if you like it? I catch my own ,I would never buy any imported seafood ,any farm raised tilapia, any meat from walmart , I am not a health "nut" and I am a smoker and give little consideration to what I eat , hunt, gather or buy locally. I have seen farm raised tilapia , chinese seafood etc , fuck that.

RickyJ
02-23-2013, 01:21 AM
With the strange radioactive marine life coming over from Japan these days, they might have a larger problem brewing. "Would you like to try one of our specialty dishes? We have fluorescent snapper or my personal favorite, glowstick snapper."

I wouldn't eat any fish without testing it for radioactivity with a Geiger counter first.

mad cow
02-23-2013, 02:38 AM
You should eat fish.Scientific studies have proven that it is physically impossible to eat too much fresh American seafood.

There are minimums,of course.You should eat one to two pounds(2.2 to 3.7 kilograms) of seafood a day if you don’t want to keel over dead sometime next year from more mental and physical deficiencies than I really have time to list here,but they are such genuinely horrid and disgusting ways to exit this world that you should Google them,at least the pictures,if that’s what your into.

Those minimum amounts are for adults,you should double them for children,who the Federal Government delineates as those between birth and 26 years old.Only massive amounts of fresh American seafood and seafood like bi-products can provide the vitamins,minerals and heavy metals your growing children need to develop healthy necks,livers and gizzards.

I am a Commercial Fisherman,I know much more about this stuff than you do.

RickyJ
02-23-2013, 02:56 AM
You should eat fish.Scientific studies have proven that it is physically impossible to eat too much fresh American seafood.

There are minimums,of course.You should eat one to two pounds(2.2 to 3.7 kilograms) of seafood a day if you don’t want to keel over dead sometime next year from more mental and physical deficiencies than I really have time to list here,but they are such genuinely horrid and disgusting ways to exit this world that you should Google them,at least the pictures,if that’s what your into.

Those minimum amounts are for adults,you should double them for children,who the Federal Government delineates as those between birth and 26 years old.Only massive amounts of fresh American seafood and seafood like bi-products can provide the vitamins,minerals and heavy metals your growing children need to develop healthy necks,livers and gizzards.

I am a Commercial Fisherman,I know much more about this stuff than you do.

I am sure you do, and you sell fish too. I will only eat fish that is safe to eat, otherwise, forget it.

angelatc
02-23-2013, 08:55 AM
I am sure you do, and you sell fish too. I will only eat fish that is safe to eat, otherwise, forget it.

Where do you get your information regarding safety?

BAllen
02-23-2013, 08:57 AM
You should eat fish.Scientific studies have proven that it is physically impossible to eat too much fresh American seafood.

There are minimums,of course.You should eat one to two pounds(2.2 to 3.7 kilograms) of seafood a day if you don’t want to keel over dead sometime next year from more mental and physical deficiencies than I really have time to list here,but they are such genuinely horrid and disgusting ways to exit this world that you should Google them,at least the pictures,if that’s what your into.

Those minimum amounts are for adults,you should double them for children,who the Federal Government delineates as those between birth and 26 years old.Only massive amounts of fresh American seafood and seafood like bi-products can provide the vitamins,minerals and heavy metals your growing children need to develop healthy necks,livers and gizzards.

I am a Commercial Fisherman,I know much more about this stuff than you do.

LOL! And I'm sure you have no personal interests in this conclusion. It is merely to help the people make the best choice of food for their diet. How noble of you. I'm sure ADL and Monsanto would have simliar recommendations.

luctor-et-emergo
02-23-2013, 09:11 AM
You should eat fish.Scientific studies have proven that it is physically impossible to eat too much fresh American seafood.

There are minimums,of course.You should eat one to two pounds(2.2 to 3.7 kilograms) of seafood a day if you don’t want to keel over dead sometime next year from more mental and physical deficiencies than I really have time to list here,but they are such genuinely horrid and disgusting ways to exit this world that you should Google them,at least the pictures,if that’s what your into.

Those minimum amounts are for adults,you should double them for children,who the Federal Government delineates as those between birth and 26 years old.Only massive amounts of fresh American seafood and seafood like bi-products can provide the vitamins,minerals and heavy metals your growing children need to develop healthy necks,livers and gizzards.

I am a Commercial Fisherman,I know much more about this stuff than you do.

I'm not sure if you have your calculations correct, but two pounds is about 1kg (0.907). There's still a mercury content in fish, specially the big predatory fish. There are other pollutants such as dioxins which also give increasingly more problems as you eat more of them. I don't think it's wrong to eat fish all the time, but as with most other things moderation may be better than extremism.

I catch my fish myself. I know where it comes from, I know the species, I've seen how healthy the fish was before it stopped moving... Off course I have the benefit of living half an hour from the beach so it's actually practical to go fishing once a week. In summer we get mackerel, sea-bass, sole and a bunch of other flat fish, in winter it's all about cod and dab. Now I need to make some fried cod ! :D

TokenLibertarianGuy
02-23-2013, 09:18 AM
You should eat fish.Scientific studies have proven that it is physically impossible to eat too much fresh American seafood.

There are minimums,of course.You should eat one to two pounds(2.2 to 3.7 kilograms) of seafood a day if you don’t want to keel over dead sometime next year from more mental and physical deficiencies than I really have time to list here,but they are such genuinely horrid and disgusting ways to exit this world that you should Google them,at least the pictures,if that’s what your into.

Those minimum amounts are for adults,you should double them for children,who the Federal Government delineates as those between birth and 26 years old.Only massive amounts of fresh American seafood and seafood like bi-products can provide the vitamins,minerals and heavy metals your growing children need to develop healthy necks,livers and gizzards.

I am a Commercial Fisherman,I know much more about this stuff than you do.

This is one of the best posts I've ever read on this forum.

angelatc
02-23-2013, 09:18 AM
I'm not sure if you have your calculations correct, but two pounds is about 1kg (0.907). There's still a mercury content in fish, specially the big predatory fish. There are other pollutants such as dioxins which also give increasingly more problems as you eat more of them. I don't think it's wrong to eat fish all the time, but as with most other things moderation may be better than extremism.

I catch my fish myself. I know where it comes from, I know the species, I've seen how healthy the fish was before it stopped moving... Off course I have the benefit of living half an hour from the beach so it's actually practical to go fishing once a week. In summer we get mackerel, sea-bass, sole and a bunch of other flat fish, in winter it's all about cod and dab. Now I need to make some fried cod ! :D


Despite millions of dollars being spent in studies, there is no evidence that mercury in fish accumulates in humans. In layman's terms, that's why the Japanese aren't stupid and clumsy.

Just more scare tactics from the government.

Smart3
02-23-2013, 09:49 AM
I'm glad I don't eat seafood.

Lucille
02-28-2013, 03:41 PM
Vox knows perfectly well why. Govt jobs (middle class shadow welfare (http://freedomguide.blogspot.com/2012/10/barnhardt-on-defense-spending-and.html)), to make the government appear it's doing something "good" for the American people, and regulatory capture for the bigbiz fascists.

Why regulate?
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2013/02/why-regulate.html


What is the point of regulating anything, given the difference between theoretical regulation and its actual results?
[...]
I understand why people like the idea of regulation. But if it fails nearly one-third of the time, is it actually doing anything? What would happen without all the expense and effort of government regulation, would everyone be eating cod-oil infused vegetables instead of fish instead of only one-third of the people getting the wrong fish? Would anyone even notice if the SEC employees weren't keeping their eagle eyes on internet porn the markets?

ronpaulfollower999
02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
I only eat heterosexual fish (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/13/bisexual-fish-male-mexican-molly-mate_n_2288114.html).

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
02-28-2013, 06:50 PM
Despite millions of dollars being spent in studies, there is no evidence that mercury in fish accumulates in humans. In layman's terms, that's why the Japanese aren't stupid and clumsy.


But aren't oceanic fish different from river fish? (That's a question, not a point pretending to be a question.)

I asked because the US is full of polluted rivers, where I assume japanese fish are generally from the ocean. No, it doesn't really address your mercury assertion, but japanese fish and american fish seem like apples to oranges. And are the fukishima issues a concern with japanese seafood?

You did ID yourself as an expert of sorts, so I'm interested.

DamianTV
02-28-2013, 08:38 PM
If you are buying fish, probably not marked correctly, alot of the time,do you care if you like it? I catch my own ,I would never buy any imported seafood ,any farm raised tilapia, any meat from walmart , I am not a health "nut" and I am a smoker and give little consideration to what I eat , hunt, gather or buy locally. I have seen farm raised tilapia , chinese seafood etc , fuck that.

Isnt Tilapia also known as the Diahhrea Fish? Or is that another type of fish they try to pass off as everything but the Poop Fish?