They hate us for our freedom!

[Anti Federalist]

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[coastie]

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Que?

[Anti Federalist]

Que?

What do see where the Liberty Forest and Ron Paul logo normally is at the top of the forum page?

[pacelli]

The F'N funny farm.

[acptulsa]

Our freedoms?

Wait a sec. I'm trying to remember...

[Cody1]

That stupid .gif has made this whole site load at a snails pace for me on my laptop. With all of the crap that needs to load on the front page it takes me at least 10 seconds of waiting to get any link to work.

[shane77m]

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/7/7/8/9/4/9/drone-strike-79225134443.jpeg#drone%20strike

[paulbot24]

That stupid .gif has made this whole site load at a snails pace for me on my laptop. With all of the crap that needs to load on the front page it takes me at least 10 seconds of waiting to get any link to work.

Grab the pitchforks! You better start painting your face now AF. We're coming to get you!:D

[shane77m]

http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/images/2011-04-05-ice-training-using-armored-vehicles.JPG

[Anti Federalist]

Ur doing it rite.


http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/images/2011-04-05-ice-training-using-armored-vehicles.JPG

[Anti Federalist]

Grab the pitchforks! You better start painting your face now AF. We're coming to get you!:D

Well, ain't that a fine "how do you do"...

http://www.erichvonkneip.com/Firingsquad2.jpg

[shane77m]

http://youtu.be/nBiJB8YuDBQ

[Anti Federalist]

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/7/7/8/9/4/9/drone-strike-79225134443.jpeg#drone%20strike

Too good not to re-size

http://i.imgur.com/pteWZAt.jpg

[shane77m]

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4f79b991ecad04a87c000005-590/the-us-has-5-percent-of-the-worlds-population-but-25-percent-of-the-worlds-prison-population.jpg

[fr33]

It's not funny anymore :P

[Anti Federalist]

It's not funny anymore :P

Not after the last few posts from Shane, no, it isn't.

[DamianTV]

The Govt solution to any problem tends to be worse than the problem itself. Let me point out some Govt thinking for you.

Problem: They hate us for our Freedoms. (yeah, right. maybe fucking with their countries for the last 50 years pissed them off more)

Govt Solution: Prohibit Freedom.

When Freedom is Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Freedom.

[MRK]

Those drones were there to bomb some freedom into those kids

[noneedtoaggress]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/483503_396490133762211_144299087_n.jpg

[noneedtoaggress]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/599492_347178155360076_1931690004_n.jpg

[A Son of Liberty]

Too good not to re-size

http://i.imgur.com/pteWZAt.jpg

I think those 178 children killed are in Pakistan alone. I'm guessing that total is mournfully higher.

I'm bewildered that, in the eyes of many (if not most) of my fellow countrymen, because I am horrified by this I am seen as "unpatriotic".

This country has become a bizarre, empty-headed death cult. Sometimes I think we're trying to save a patient who is long since dead, like trying to beat life into the chest of a zombie.

[tod evans]

Please report to the nearest reprogramming center...


I think those 178 children killed are in Pakistan alone. I'm guessing that total is mournfully higher.

I'm bewildered that, in the eyes of many (if not most) of my fellow countrymen, because I am horrified by this I am seen as "unpatriotic".

This country has become a bizarre, empty-headed death cult. Sometimes I think we're trying to save a patient who is long since dead, like trying to beat life into the chest of a zombie.

[A Son of Liberty]

Please report to the nearest reprogramming center...

I have an appointment with O'Brien later today.

[tod evans]

I have an appointment with O'Brien later today.

I'm probably the only person here who doesn't have a clue who O'Brien is..:o

[A Son of Liberty]

I'm probably the only person here who doesn't have a clue who O'Brien is..:o

No worries. ;)


When Winston is later arrested, it turns out that O'Brien is an agent of the Thought Police, and is completely loyal to the Party. He reveals himself as he enters the cell by responding to Winston's exclamation ("They've got you too!") by wryly commenting, "They got me a long time ago."

O'Brien is part of a false flag resistance movement whose real goal is to find thought-criminals (citizens who think something that is deemed to be unacceptable by the party), lure them in by pretending to be on their side, then arrest and "cure" them. O'Brien tortures Winston to cure him of his "insanity," in particular his "false" notion that there exists an external, self-evident reality independent of the Party; O'Brien explains that reality is simply whatever the Party says it is.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Brien_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)

[tod evans]

Orwell's O'Brien.........

Thanks, now I really feel stupid:o


No worries. ;)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Brien_(Nineteen_Eighty-Four)

[A Son of Liberty]

Edit: Wrong Thread

[shane77m]

Post it in this thread also.

http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/february2013/190213target1.jpg

[shane77m]

http://www.waze.com/wiki/images/4/4e/Cam_traffic2.jpeg

[shane77m]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_stop-and-frisk_program Stop and frisk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_checkpoint Checkpoints

http://www.tsa.gov/ the TSA

http://www.dhs.gov/ the DHS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year _2012 DNAA 2012

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act Patriot Act

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?404893-Does-Obama-want-to-drone-citizens-inside-the-United-States Obama wanting to drone citizens inside the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_tax Property tax

The "voluntary" income tax.


http://youtu.be/R7mRSI8yWwg

[GunnyFreedom]

I think those 178 children killed are in Pakistan alone. I'm guessing that total is mournfully higher.

I'm bewildered that, in the eyes of many (if not most) of my fellow countrymen, because I am horrified by this I am seen as "unpatriotic".

This country has become a bizarre, empty-headed death cult. Sometimes I think we're trying to save a patient who is long since dead, like trying to beat life into the chest of a zombie.

I wholeheartedly agree. I think the primary effort here is really to put our people in place warning against all the stuff killing America so when that stuff kills America we are the voice of reason and we take the lead in the rebuilding effort. The government is too far gone, the people are too complacent, and those who know what's going on are too apathetic. While my effort is towards saving America, my agenda is to put as many of our people in place as possible so that we are in position to take charge of the rebuilding effort when it all goes to hell.

[ClydeCoulter]

I wholeheartedly agree. I think the primary effort here is really to put our people in place warning against all the stuff killing America so when that stuff kills America we are the voice of reason and we take the lead in the rebuilding effort. The government is too far gone, the people are too complacent, and those who know what's going on are too apathetic. While my effort is towards saving America, my agenda is to put as many of our people in place as possible so that we are in position to take charge of the rebuilding effort when it all goes to hell.

That's what I hear Ron saying that we need to prepare for. I hope that I, or my children, will be able to help.

[acptulsa]

The Govt solution to any problem tends to be worse than the problem itself. Let me point out some Govt thinking for you.

Problem: They hate us for our Freedoms. (yeah, right. maybe fucking with their countries for the last 50 years pissed them off more)

Govt Solution: Prohibit Freedom.

When Freedom is Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Freedom.

I think what you're trying to say is, When Government is all Outlaws, only Outlaws will have Freedom.

[Uncle Emanuel Watkins]

The only wars fought by the United States were the ones declared by congress with these being World War One and World War Two. Since that time, the federal government, with this being the administration, has fought police actions under the guise of a mysterious "best interests" of the United States. As the United States are the people, this has been a big lie. In the meantime, the U.S. Congress has allowed its power to be bribed and lobbied away to the extent that it goes along with anything the administration does. The few bills which are actually enacted to benefit the people are then warped by the policies chosen by the president in order to administer them. The U.S. Supreme Court then double stamps all this corruption which has ultimately led to the warping of the new order our Founders established as a natural law within The Declaration of Independence. This, in turn, has caused the U.S. Constitution to lose any of its meaning.
So, please, don't blame any of this evil being perpetuated today on the United States and its people. It is being perpetuated by impostors who have gained control of the federal government. There is a difference between the two. There is no such entity as the United States government and there was never meant to exist such a fallacy. There is the federal government made up of necessary bastards, and then there is the rest of us little folks living within the United States. We serve them while, by natural law, they were created by our Founders to serve us. This means they are in contempt of our Civil Purpose with this being the true offense.

[A Son of Liberty]

I wholeheartedly agree. I think the primary effort here is really to put our people in place warning against all the stuff killing America so when that stuff kills America we are the voice of reason and we take the lead in the rebuilding effort. The government is too far gone, the people are too complacent, and those who know what's going on are too apathetic. While my effort is towards saving America, my agenda is to put as many of our people in place as possible so that we are in position to take charge of the rebuilding effort when it all goes to hell.

I'm reshifting since the election to develop some educational programs in my area. I'm no good on the politics side of things. I don't have the stomach for it. I wish all of you who do all the best.

In my opinion, we will all be better served if, after this ship finally slips beneath the waves, we do not dream of resurrecting it (not saying that is what you are suggesting). Focus on the lifeboats. Secession, or emergent, MUCH smaller independent states ('states' as the founders understood them), should be the vision.

[Anti Federalist]

I have an appointment with O'Brien later today.

Off to Room 101 with you.

Me? I've having my Victory Gin and Victory Cigarette and life is good...

[AGRP]

They fight for our freedom:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAeTIuhgSs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCZB-k4jKBc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXkBbAdySNc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjv-jma8ECk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ZkFZkejv8

[shane77m]

http://i45.tinypic.com/24v1zl5.jpg

[shane77m]

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/sites/default/files/images/NYPDPepperSprayvictims.jpg

[GunnyFreedom]

Not surprised by this. I mean NC has our share of problems, but we are distinctly not as bad as most states WRT police misconduct. I don't know WHY that would be, but I know it IS. Obviously it does exist here, it's just fortunately not as bad as elsewhere.

[Lucille]

What's going on in Vermont? That surprises me.

I knew FLA would be at the top of a list.

[heavenlyboy34]

Off to Room 101 with you.

Me? I've having my Victory Gin and Victory Cigarette and life is good...
Have you scheduled your time for The Great Operation yet, Citizen?

[shane77m]

http://youtu.be/LUS7auhIwpE

[shane77m]

http://www.realnewsreporter.com/?p=4794

http://www.realnewsreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/afg_dead_children_55_-killed-by-us-nato-bombing-300x195.jpg

[shane77m]

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/22/world/la-fg-obama-drone-20130223


WASHINGTON — About 100 U.S. troops have deployed to the West African country of Niger to help establish a drone base for surveillance missions, in the latest step by the United States to aid French forces battling Islamic militants in neighboring Mali.

[shane77m]

The voluntary income tax.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2012/08/01/wesley-snipes-turns-50-in-prison-but-didnt-file-false-tax-return/


Wesley Snipes just celebrated his 50th birthday—in federal prison. The film star remains there over tax charges. See Actor’s depressing 50th birthday. You may think Snipes was mislead by advisers or just plain foolish to end up in jail over tax charges.

Maybe, but he’s not alone and it could have been much worse. After all, Snipes was convicted of failure to file, a misdemeanor. Filing falsely is a felony. You can be prosecuted for failure to file or for filing falsely.

You must file a tax return each year with the IRS if your income is over the requisite level. Snipes is over, way over. As Snipes’ misdemeanor convictions show, failing to file carries smaller penalties than filing fraudulently.

The U.S. taxes all income wherever you earn it. So forget arguing that only foreign-source income is taxable, making your domestic income exempt. There is a convoluted argument that foreign income is different, but don’t bother making it.

In fact, a variation of this bogus theory is the one that got Mr. Snipes in trouble, consigned to three years in prison. Stay away from other crazy arguments too.

Example: You file your original return April 15 and state you aren’t subject to income taxes because they are unconstitutional and you are not a slave to the federal government. You had better file an amended tax return properly reporting your income and paying your tax before the IRS contacts you to tell you they disagree with your original return. See Ten Tax Protestor Claims To Avoid.

Once you’ve filed your return, you can’t be prosecuted for failing to file an amended return, even though something may happen after you file that makes clear your original return contained mistakes. Yet if you knew the return was inaccurate when you filed it you should amend it to make it accurate without delay.

The IRS rarely brings up an originally filed return in audits or criminal prosecutions once the taxpayer comes forward and attempts to correct it by filing an amended return. But to take advantage of this rule you need to be proactive. You need to make the correction before the IRS finds your error.

In 2008, Snipes was convicted of three misdemeanor counts of failing to file tax returns. He reported to prison on December 9, 2010. He was initially sentenced to McKean Federal Correctional Institution, a medium-security prison in northwest Pennsylvania. He is now at the adjacent prison camp, a minimum security Club Fed, where he is inmate number 43355-018.

According to E! Online, this federal prison camp houses roughly 290 white-collar inmates. Remember Snipes in “White Men Can’t Jump“? Perhaps in his new digs Snipes should start shooting a sequel: “White-Collar Men Can’t Jump.”

[shane77m]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/policestate-seattle-vs-wto.jpg

[shane77m]

One of the cities not far from I live has one of these towers.

http://downloads.thedaily.com/ui-images/2011/12/05/120511-news-militarized-police-5-ss-662w.jpg

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/05/120511-news-militarized-police-1-6/


http://downloads.thedaily.com/ui-images/2011/12/05/120511-news-militarized-police-1-ss-662w.jpg

In today’s Mayberry, Andy Griffith and Barney Fife could be using grenade launchers and a tank to keep the peace. A rapidly expanding Pentagon program that distributes used military equipment to local police departments — many of them small-town forces — puts battlefield-grade weaponry in the hands of cops at an unprecedented rate.

Through its little-known “1033 program,” the Department of Defense gave away nearly $500 million worth of leftover military gear to law enforcement in fiscal year 2011 — a new record for the program and a dramatic rise over past years’ totals, including the $212 million in equipment distributed in 2010.

The surplus equipment includes grenade launchers, helicopters, military robots, M-16 assault rifles and armored vehicles.

And the program’s recent expansion shows no sign of slackening: Orders in fiscal year 2012 are up 400 percent over the same period in 2011, according to data provided to The Daily by the Pentagon’s Defense Logistics Agency.

Passed by Congress in 1997, the 1033 program was created to provide law-enforcement agencies with tools to fight drugs and terrorism. Since then, more than 17,000 agencies have taken in $2.6 billion worth of equipment for nearly free, paying only the cost of delivery.

[HOLLYWOOD]

So presume local/state taxes go down since the taxpayers already paid for all this gear at the federal level? YEAH RIGHT... https://www.facebook.com/dla.mil




Section 1033 of the Fiscal Year 1997 (FY 97) National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) authorizes the Secretary of Defense to transfer excess Department of Defense (DOD) personal property to federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies (LEAs). Special consideration is provided to counter-drug and counter terrorism activities. Section 1033 of the FY 97 NDAA superseded Section 1208 of the FY 90 and FY 91 NDAA. It was codified into law as 10 USC Section 2576a. Department of Defense Instructions and Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Instructions provide additional guidance and assigns DLA Disposition Services Law Enforcement Support Office as the Program Manager.

The DLA Disposition Services Law Enforcement Support Office (LESO) conducts program management from Battle Creek, Michigan. Currently, 50 states and 3 US territories participate in the program, which supports a law enforcement customer base of more than 1.7 million officers. Since inception of the program, more than $2.6 billion worth of property has been transferred and in FY 11 a record $498 million worth of property. If your law enforcement agency qualifies and chooses to participate, it may become one of more than 11,573 (local, state, and federal) participating members to improve its capabilities, expand its patrol coverage, while saving the American taxpayer.

Department of Defense Excess Property Program (DoD 1033) The Department of Defense Excess Property Program (1033 Program) is authorized under federal law and managed through the Defense Logistics Agency's Law Enforcement Support Office (LESO) in Ft. Belvoir, Va. The 1033 Program provides surplus DoD military equipment to state and local civilian law enforcement agencies for use in counter-narcotics and counter-terrorism operations, and to enhance officer safety. The Missouri Department of Public Safety is the sponsoring state agency responsible for administration of the 1033 Program in Missouri.


DoD 1033 Application to Participate (revised 11-4-11) (http://www.dps.mo.gov/dir/programs/cjle/documents/dod/1033APPLICATION.doc)
Complete and submit the following forms if requesting weapons:


Weapon Request Form (revised 6-20-12) (http://www.dps.mo.gov/dir/programs/cjle/documents/dod/WeaponRequestForm.pdf)
Serial Number Request Form (http://www.dps.mo.gov/dir/programs/cjle/documents/dod/SerialNumberVerificationForm.doc)
ATF Form 10 (http://www.dps.mo.gov/dir/programs/cjle/documents/dod/ATFForm10.pdf)



DoD 1033 Items

A small sample of the types of items issued in the past to participating agencies are aircraft (both fixed wing and rotary) and four-wheel drive vehicles (such as pickup trucks, blazers, ambulances and armored personnel carriers). The ambulances are used for mobile command vehicles and search warrant entry teams. The armored personnel carriers are used for S.W.A.T. teams along with victim an officer recovery. Ballistic helmets and vests are issued for officer safety. BDU clothing (including Nomex fire retardant), boots, wet weather and cold weather clothing, canteens, and web belts are some of the types of field gear items issued for marijuana eradication. Binoculars, radios, camcorders, and tv/vcr combinations are used for tactical and intelligence gathering operations. Information technology equipment such as desktop and laptop computers, printers, and servers have also been issued.

Eligible Applicants
Any state or local law enforcement agency may participate in the DoD program.
Application Process

The Chief or Sheriff of the agency must complete and sign an application. Once this application has been approved, the Department of Defense Law Enforcement Support Office will issue a screening authorization letter to the local Drug Law Enforcement Agency (DLEA) to screen excess property via the Defense Reutilization Marketing Services internet site where the DRMO's post their inventory. When an agency receives property through the 1033 Program, the Chief or Sheriff will be held accountable for the inventory and see the property obtained through this program is used within the guidelines of the program. Random site visits may be made by the Department of Public Safety to ensure proper use and inventory of property received.
Application Information
Applications are available by request from the Missouri Department of Public Safety or by clicking the application link above. The application includes a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) that must be sign by the Chief or Sheriff. A copy of this MOA must be kept on file with the participating agency. All items requested must be justified for use in a bona fide law enforcement mission or field activity.
Staff
For more information regarding the DoD 1033 Program, please contact a member of our staff.

[Anti Federalist]

Why do you hate freedom, comrade?


One of the cities not far from I live has one of these towers.

http://downloads.thedaily.com/ui-images/2011/12/05/120511-news-militarized-police-5-ss-662w.jpg

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/05/120511-news-militarized-police-1-6/