The FINAL opinion on Dennis Kucinich?

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Discuss.

[cajuncocoa]

I respect Dennis for his unwavering views; have to vote "negative" though because I disagree with him on almost everything except his antiwar stance.

[Lucille]

Ambivalent.

[liveandletlive]

33% rating

which reflects the current poll

[Confederate]

He's a socialist. Enough said.

[liveandletlive]

He's a socialist. Enough said.

i approve of his wife though.

[compromise]

I don't support Dennis Kucinich. His progressive fiscal ideas are winning so far and are taking this country in the wrong direction.

We need President Rand Paul to take us back to constitutional limited government and away from the socialist ideas of Barack Obama and Dennis Kucinich.

[sailingaway]

mixed.

positive where I agree with him, incredulity where I don't, and less respect than I had before his trip on airforce one where he gave up his fight against Obamacare when he had been progressives' one true fighter to focus their efforts for the single payer option.

[ican'tvote]

I like the guy. I disagree with him politically, but he has integrity. I remember in 08' he said Ron Paul would be his VP.
I'd be hard pressed to vote for him though.

[TonySutton]

Dennis is good in some areas and terrible in others. I rate him as positive because I can trust him to have the same stance today that he had yesterday.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Sixteen members have a positive opinion of a man who wants a complete ban on handguns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich#Plan_to_ban_handguns), sold out to Obama on Air Force One (http://www.infowars.com/kucinich-sells-out-on-health-care-after-ride-in-air-force-one/) and voted for Obamacare, higher taxes and more regulation, more federal departments and just a bigger government in general. Kucinich is about as liberating as Cheney.

But hey, he's a principled statist. :rolleyes: Just the same as principled neocons who won't sell out on their support for more war...

[BuddyRey]

Like most grassroots liberals, he has about 60% of the libertarian philosophy already...he just needs the capstone of the Non-Aggression Principle to finally crystalize his code of ethics and help him apply it consistently, instead of just endorsing freedom when it comes to social issues. I think of him as an ally on certain subjects who still needs to do more growing and thinking. But how could I hate him when he's basically right where I was in the early to mid 2000's?

[Anti-Neocon]

Sixteen members have a positive opinion of a man who wants a complete ban on handguns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich#Plan_to_ban_handguns)
Kucinich has improved on guns. He's also one of the few Congressmen/Senators who I'd actually support if they ran for President. I really love the guy cause he is principled and agrees with me on a lot of my key issues.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Kucinich has improved on guns.

Yeah right. If Kucinich's sorry self wasn't bounced from Congress, he'd be right there today cheering on Obama's gun control push. Hell, he'd probably be complaining it doesn't go far enough.

[V3n]

sell-out. (healthcare)

[Tod]

Whenever he talks, it starts out good when he describes a problem but invariably as soon as he outlines his solution, I shake my head.

[Smart3]

I'm a passionate Kucinich supporter/fan and agree with him on most issues. It's how we achieve our shared goals that differs.

[oyarde]

I was looking for the Denny is a douchbag selection.

[Anti-Neocon]

Yeah right. If Kucinich's sorry self wasn't bounced from Congress, he'd be right there today cheering on Obama's gun control push. Hell, he'd probably be complaining it doesn't go far enough.
Have you actually heard what he has had to say about the matter? Listen to him on O'Reilly. It's somewhere on Youtube. He seems keen to "protect the 2nd Amendment" and says that the assault rifle discussion is one we should be considering but he seems skeptical about it accomplishing anything. Yeah he's not perfect, but he's certainly changed his tune a bit.

[compromise]

Have you actually heard what he has had to say about the matter? Listen to him on O'Reilly. It's somewhere on Youtube. He seems keen to "protect the 2nd Amendment" and says that the assault rifle discussion is one we should be considering but he seems skeptical about it accomplishing anything. Yeah he's not perfect, but he's certainly changed his tune a bit.

Obama also says he's protecting the 2nd Amendment.

[Anti-Neocon]

Obama also says he's protecting the 2nd Amendment.
Obama isn't exactly some crazy anti-gun crusader, like Kucinich appeared to be at some point. Anyway, Obama seems to have supported legislation which Kucinich doesn't want to be on the record supporting, so Dennis is a step above Obama at this point on guns, compared to how he was much worse before. That was the only point I was trying to make.

This is kinda a pointless discussion to have anyway, cause Dennis isn't going to run for President again, and won't get anywhere if he does. But he's a good guy that did way more positive than negative for the country during his time in the House and he's still worthy of respect.

[psi2941]

I don't agree with him politically, however I have lots of respect for them because he has integrity and is a straight shooter. Given then option either vote for him or a typical republican shill who pretends to be a fiscal conservative when not, i'll gladly vote for Dennis.

Obama also says he's protecting the 2nd Amendment.

he is, everything he has done is just lip service to the liberals. His action so far, has been expanding 2nd amendment rights.

[Zee]

He always seemed pretty genuine to me, which is a big plus in politics, even if I disagree with the person or ideology. Like others here, He lost respect after his lame excuse for caving on the healthcare issue. It painted him as weak, though who knows how he was persuaded. I voted neutral.

[2young2vote]

Honest Communist

[oyarde]

Honest Communist

Until Obummer puts him on Air Force One, then just rather an ordinary, unprincipled fuckstick.

[oyarde]

This poll has , though validated my suspicions, 44 %, that is all I have to say about that. There is no hope , it is every man for himself.Even the Liberty board is validating Romney's accurate 47% remark .

[KingRobbStark]

i approve of his wife though.


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[RonPaulFanInGA]

he is, everything he has done is just lip service to the liberals. His action so far, has been expanding 2nd amendment rights.

At least until he (Obama) enthusiastically signs whatever gun control the U.S. Congress passes.

[familydog]

I can't help but laugh at this poll result. It's like saying that you respect the slave owner down the road because he is a principled slave owner.

[cajuncocoa]

I can't help but laugh at this poll result. It's like saying that you respect the slave owner down the road because he is a principled slave owner.
+rep

[ican'tvote]

I can't help but laugh at this poll result. It's like saying that you respect the slave owner down the road because he is a principled slave owner.
That's not a valid comparison.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

That's not a valid comparison.

Yes, it is. People here admit to liking Kucinich all the time, and will say: "oh sure, he's a big government statist, but he's principled and honest about it." Well, whoop-de-sh**.

[ican'tvote]

Yes, it is. People here admit to liking Kucinich all the time, and will say: "oh sure, he's a big government statist, but he's principled and honest about it." Well, whoop-de-sh**.
I don't think all big government statists are slave owners. They are just wrong.

[oyarde]

I don't think all big government statists are slave owners. They are just wrong. Actually , involuntary servitude , excessive taxes , slavery , so yeah I guess Denny has been trying to purchase slaves.

[oyarde]

Big govt taxation outside of Article One , Section Eight is slavery.

[Danan]

have to vote "negative" though because I disagree with him on almost everything except his antiwar stance.

^^ This.

[ican'tvote]

Actually , involuntary servitude , excessive taxes , slavery , so yeah I guess Denny has been trying to purchase slaves.
Excessive taxes is a redundant term. Taxes are taxes. If excessive taxes are slavery, all taxes are slavery.
Personally, I'd prefer to consider them theft, but to each his own.

[oyarde]

Excessive taxes is a redundant term. Taxes are taxes. If excessive taxes are slavery, all taxes are slavery.
Personally, I'd prefer to consider them theft, but to each his own.

Now we are getting somewhere :) , Denny a thief and slaver.

[oyarde]

Time to change the title and see if we can get this down below 40 % , try and save a little respect for the Liberty board.....

[Brett85]

I have a positive opinion of Kucinich, but I have too many disagreements with him to ever vote for him. I like that he's one of the very few Democrats who are consistently anti war, regardless of whether we have a Republican or Democratic President.

[HOLLYWOOD]

The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend.

Kucinich has his faults, but if you ever get to talk to him off the record, alone, discretely, he is a major ally to the cause and America.

1 RULE of LAW... the 'JUST US system' has been bought and paid for long ago. Kucinich knows this and would be an ally to cleaning up the graft and corruption that goes all the way up to the Supreme Court.
2. ANTI-WAR... You all realize, it's not just bombing and killing? It's the new Fascism... It's the Central Banks, It the Military Industrial Complex, It the Prison Industrial Complex, It's the Security and Intelligence POLICE STATE. So much is directly related to the wars the US government and their shadow masters enforce. Half the annual budget is related to WAR-SECURITY-POLICE STATE. e.g. State Dept $60 Billion laundered to contractors of the War Machine, DHS $60 Billion, $1+ Trillion when you add up the DOD budgets and ancillaries. $50 Billion corporate Media Propaganda... Drones flying over YOUR head... on and on
3. Honesty, Dennis is right up there with Ron. Yeah they all have their faults, but Dennis has worked closely with Ron and subsequently was also banished to political purgatory
4. The ObamaCare E-ticket ride on Air Force One for Dennis, well Obama and his Master played him, Dennis knows now, what evils lurk behind the current.


It really is a no brainer... Divided, We will NEVER overcome the tyranny of FASCISM and corrupt government today. Corrupt governments always have the wealth, power and control to conduct all the subversive tactics and propaganda on the people, groups, org, etc.

A prefect example was last year in the polling, Ron Paul did best against Obama and would of beat him, because Ron Appealed across all ideologies of lines. Purists Lines we all need to stop drawing. Fascist corporate Media blacked that out from the masses/viewers.

Get the government back to representing the people instead of the Bankers and shadow special interests.

LAST: Dennis Kucinich knows the EVIL of the FEDERAL RESERVE... that is, half the battle in America today and largest weighting factor to supporting Kucinich.

Politically, we need to unite against the 2 wings of Satan's party. Democrats and Republicans. That's their game to keep the people divided and focused on the illusion of choice between 2 evils.

Yes, win through candidates in both parties in the primaries/caucus because we have witnessed, by the time it gets to the General Elections, it's just 2 bought and paid for ringers, putting difference aside and focus on the major issues... something Ron Paul really hit on and worked-out at the National Press Club with; Him, Cindy McKinney, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, and NOSHOW asshole Bob Barr.

PS: I back Dennis and I would like to hear an extensive interview with Ron about Kucinich or both together, maybe on a speaking tour on perspectives from different angles? Not a 10,000 ft laissez-faire statements, but discussion on the their work together, as well as whats truly going on behind the curtain with Congress/White House.

[Christian Liberty]

I voted "Neutral" although that's not strictly accurate. I really like a lot of his views, and I really don't like a lot of his views.

On foreign policy, Dennis Kucinich is pretty much as solid as you're going to get on the left. It is economics, not foreign policy, where guys like Rand really pwn guys like Kucinich. If there's any democrat I trust to oppose war in the White House, its Kucinich. And he has the credential of actually voting against Iraq, rather than voting for it and then complaing later like so many Dems. There was a time when I was so single-issue on foreign policy that I said if it was Kucinich against a neocon I'd actually vote for Kucinich. I don't take that stand anymore, I refuse to vote for evil for any reason, and I'd much rather vote LP or maybe CP if the LP candidate happened to suck (Like Bob Barr, actually he wouldn't be so bad as a GOP candidate but for a third party candidate that really runs to educate people, he sucked. I couldn't support someone like that on the LP ticket). But if it was Kucinich against, say GW Bush 2.0., I would actually root for Kucinich. Kucinich is also, IIRC, opposed to the Patriot Act and the NDAA. If I'm wrong about this, my opinion of Kucinich drops substantially.

That said, he sucks on economics. And even worse, he actually trusts the government with a monopoly on weapons. And not just assault weapons, but also handguns. He's like the worst on this issue.

Kucinich is a politician who isn't named Ron Paul, so that alone should really be enough to oppose him, but considering how insanely bad so many people are, Kucinich is better than most. Even while I completely disagree with him at least half the time, that's better than someone like Obama who I completely disagree with pretty much all the time.

I'd root for him over a neocon, but if it was ever Kucinich VS a Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, or other similarr quasi-libertarian candidate... yeah, I'd support even the libertarian-leaner over Kucinich pretty easily. I picked neutral because I think that's closest.

[kcchiefs6465]

Hollywood, I too would like to see Kucinich and Ron Paul sit down together and speak about how to restore sanity to this broken system. A lot of democrats I know love Kucinich but can't listen to Ron Paul because of the 'R' next to his name. Likewise with republicans towards Kucinich. If people saw that they are alike [though their differences are a lot as well] maybe we could have an actual discussion in this country. Not the usual, 'well he's part of this party' divisive bullshit. I want discussion. Bringing in those who can't unwrap their minds from the LEFT/RIGHT, 'he said, she said,' bullshit is what is needed.

I'd end with a Henry Ford quote I find to be encouraging.


It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

[Ender]

I like Kucinich. I don't agree on every stance but I believe he has integrity.

I'd take him over any neocon and a lot of wishy-washy libertarians.