Mother arrested for inviting strippers to 16-year-old son’s birthday party

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/18/mother-arrested-for-inviting-strippers-to-16-year-old-sons-birthday-party/

A woman in New York was arrested Monday for allegedly hiring strippers to attend her 16-year-old son’s birthday party.

Judy Viger, 33, has been charged with five counts of endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor.

Police said Viger paid for two adult female entertainers to perform “personal and intimate dances” at the birthday party at Spare Time Bowling Center in South Glens Falls last year. The party was attended by five teens younger than 17.

“The charges stem from an allegation that she endangered not only the welfare of her own child, but the welfare of the 14- and 15-year-old children that were at the birthday party as well,” Saratoga County District Attorney James Murphy said.

Outraged parents of the young teens contacted the media and the police. Officials were originally told the strippers were just a “bikini gram,” but authorities learned otherwise after viewing pictures and talking to witnesses about the event.

-t

[pcosmar]

There's some boys gonna get their asses kicked tomorrow.

Perhaps they will learn when to STFU.

[BAllen]

There's some boys gonna get their asses kicked tomorrow.

Perhaps they will learn when to STFU.

So, you think it's okay to physically violate their rights, but WORDS without violence are not allowed. Your priorities are really screwed up.

[Czolgosz]

Nice.

[AngryCanadian]

LOL what a great Birthday party. And they shouldn't had arrest for this.

[MRK]

There's some boys gonna get their asses kicked tomorrow.

Perhaps they will learn when to STFU.

lol exactly... who narced? haha

why is this illegal again?

[ClydeCoulter]

If she wanted to do that for her own son only, I guess I would have no problem with it. But other children were involved, were the other parents notified of what was to take place? It would piss me off, not enough to call the cops, but it would piss me off if my son went to a friends birthday party and that happened without my knowlege.

[pcosmar]

So, you think it's okay to physically violate their rights, but not WORDS without violence are not allowed. Your priorities are really screwed up.
Speaking from realities I remember from long ago when I was in High School. (class of 75)
Unless things have changed more than I know.
I made no judgment about it one way or the other.

And yes,, I have gotten my jaw jacked for saying stupid shit..
Snitches were not considered "cool".


A talebearer reveals secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit conceals the matter.


A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself, but the heart of fools blurts out folly.


If you argue your case with a neighbor, do not betray another man's confidence,


A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid a man who talks too much.

[phill4paul]

So, you think it's okay to physically violate their rights, but not WORDS without violence are not allowed. Your priorities are really screwed up.

dafuq?

[phill4paul]

If she wanted to do that for her own son only, I guess I would have no problem with it. But other children were involved, were the other parents notified of what was to take place? It would piss me off, not enough to call the cops, but it would piss me off if my son went to a friends birthday party and that happened without my knowlege.

Guess that would have most to do with parental interaction and who they allow their children to hang out with.
My bet would be on dissaffected parents that became outraged when they found about something they should have known better from the get go.

[BAllen]

In another post he claimed a person's rights were violated when a cop threatened (but did not physically harm) a suspect who was a repeat offender. Now he advocates violence against a student over WORDS!!!

[pcosmar]

In another post he claimed a person's rights were violated when a cop threatened (but did not physically harm) a suspect who was a repeat offender. Now he advocates violence against a student over WORDS!!!

I advocated nothing.
I stated , (from my memory of young men) what would be happening.

And not by some Armed Enforcer,, but between peers.

[ClydeCoulter]

Speaking from realities I remember from long ago when I was in High School. (class of 75)
Unless things have changed more than I know.
I made no judgment about it one way or the other.

And yes,, I have gotten my jaw jacked for saying stupid shit..
Snitches were not considered "cool".

Those quotes you posted after your comment are part of the rules used to recruit those that will help climb ladders to the heights of power.

[fr33]

Why was my teenage life so boring :o

[Origanalist]

Those quotes you posted after your comment are part of the rules used to recruit those that will help climb ladders to the heights of power.

How so?

[ClydeCoulter]

Why was my teenage life so boring :o

Mine was too, until I started hitch-hiking around the country. Then I almost froze to death, almost got raped by another man, all kids of crap and it got exciting (I guess that's what you could call it?) :)

[pcosmar]

Those quotes you posted after your comment are part of the rules used to recruit those that will help climb ladders to the heights of power.

Those were a few bits of collected wisdom,, from the Book of Proverbs.
Proverb

noun
1. a short popular saying, usually of unknown and ancient origin, that expresses effectively some commonplace truth or useful thought; adage; saw.
2. a wise saying or precept; a didactic sentence.

I am certainly not rising to any "position of Power".

[Confederate]

Judy Viger, 33, has been charged with five counts of endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor.
-t

Does that mean she hired 5 strippers?

[ClydeCoulter]

How so?

Being able to keep a secret, conspire, etc...
A lot of writings of wisdom are a guide to understanding human nature and how to take advantage of it. Us mundanes are taught to use these writings for a different purpose, the parts they want us to remember to control us. I'll not get too deep into it for now.

[BAllen]

I advocated nothing.
I stated , (from my memory of young men) what would be happening.

And not by some Armed Enforcer,, but between peers.

So you support PHYSYICAL thuggery of a peer group, over police using VERBAL threats. You really are screwed up.

[ClydeCoulter]

Those were a few bits of collected wisdom,, from the Book of Proverbs.
Proverb


I am certainly not rising to any "position of Power".

I know where they were from, I studied that book (all of those books) for most of my life.

[QuickZ06]

So, you think it's okay to physically violate their rights, but WORDS without violence are not allowed. Your priorities are really screwed up.

How do you know any of this ever happened? Do you not believe she is innocent until proven guilty?


A woman in New York was arrested Monday for allegedly hiring strippers to attend her 16-year-old son’s birthday party.


Judy Viger, 33, has been charged with five counts of endangering the welfare of a child, a misdemeanor.

Don't jump the gun until all the facts have been presented.

[kcchiefs6465]

You should have seen our parties without any parental supervision/consent. No one snitched by the way. Maybe could have graced myself with national media criticism.

My pictures would surely ban me. Even after a few computers later.

[phill4paul]

So you support PHYSYICAL thuggery of a peer group, over police using VERBAL threats. You really are screwed up.

Jesus Christ! Are you stalking Pete because of the alligator thread? Lololololol.

[QuickZ06]

You should have seen our parties without any parental supervision/consent. No one snitched by the way. Maybe could have graced myself with national media criticism.

My pictures would surely ban me. Even after a few computers later.

This is honestly nothing really, compared to what teens are really doing these days, behind closed doors. Heck, I went to some "parental supervised" parties in my youth where the parent would clearly have been arrested if the cops ever showed.

[Anti Federalist]

Why was my teenage life so boring :o

Mine wasn't...heh heh heh...

[Origanalist]

Being able to keep a secret, conspire, etc...
A lot of writings of wisdom are a guide to understanding human nature and how to take advantage of it. Us mundanes are taught to use these writings for a different purpose, the parts they want us to remember to control us. I'll not get too deep into it for now.

Well, not getting too deep, these are the things I learned growing up to keep my fellow refusenics and myself out of the clutches of the control freaks. Snitches were dealt with rather harshly.

[Anti Federalist]

Jesus Christ! Are you stalking Pete because of the alligator thread? Lololololol.

What the fuck is going on?

Oh, LOL, "BAllen".

Pretty sure that is "tar heel" something or other...or maybe azxd.

LOL

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, and I will bet real foldin' money that FarceBook is involved here, one way or another.

[pcosmar]

This is honestly nothing really, compared to what teens are really doing these days, behind closed doors. Heck, I went to some "parental supervised" parties in my youth where the parent would clearly have been arrested if the cops ever showed.

My folks collected car keys, and the beer was in the basement.
My older brothers had a couple of such parties,, Underage drinking of beer, (in a safe environment).

Today they would be arrested.

[ClydeCoulter]

Well, not getting too deep, these are the things I learned growing up to keep my fellow refusenics and myself out of the clutches of the control freaks. Snitches were dealt with rather harshly.

Yea, snitching to parents is a bad word in this world. I like that my son tells me what's happening. It's my responsibility to make decisions concerning those things and how best to discuss it with him. It helps our relationship stay firm. I also don't lie to him about whether I did drugs as a kid or whether I did stupid things.

[BamaAla]

Speaking from realities I remember from long ago when I was in High School. (class of 75)
Unless things have changed more than I know.
I made no judgment about it one way or the other.

And yes,, I have gotten my jaw jacked for saying stupid shit..
Snitches were not considered "cool".

Snitches get stitches. That was still the code in my HS days a few years after yours ('02.)

[belian78]

What'd they think would happen doing that at a damn bowling alley? If you want to do something like that, do it in a private residence.

[ClydeCoulter]

Snitches get stitches. That was still the code in my HS days a few years after yours ('02.)

After they get elected, or in a prominent place where their voices are heard, if they snitch, they get off'ed or found with a hooker in Argentina or whatever.

[phill4paul]

Yea, snitching to parents is a bad word in this world. I like that my son tells me what's happening. It's my responsibility to make decisions concerning those things and how best to discuss it with him. It helps our relationship stay firm. I also don't lie to him about whether I did drugs as a kid or whether I did stupid things.

I'd bet that you are the kinda parent that wouldn't betray that trust to the detriment of your child's reputation among his peers.

[Anti Federalist]

Snitches get stitches. That was still the code in my HS days a few years after yours ('02.)

http://www.feelingoodtees.com/Assets/ProductImages/AG_0012B_1308_WARN_A_BROTHER.jpg

[ClydeCoulter]

I'd bet that you are the kinda parent that wouldn't betray that trust to the detriment of your child's reputation among his peers.

His welfare is always my number one concern, yes.

[kcchiefs6465]

My folks collected car keys, and the beer was in the basement.
My older brothers had a couple of such parties,, Underage drinking of beer, (in a safe environment).

Today they would be arrested.
This is about how mine went. ;)

[jmdrake]

So you support PHYSYICAL thuggery of a peer group, over police using VERBAL threats. You really are screwed up.

Trollin trollin trollin.....
Keep those posts a flowin....
Act like you be knowin....troll onnnnnn!

[pcosmar]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/mom-judy-viger-arrested-inviting-strippers-sons-16th-birthday-party-video#


While parents have complained, the young men have not.

[Origanalist]

Yea, snitching to parents is a bad word in this world. I like that my son tells me what's happening. It's my responsibility to make decisions concerning those things and how best to discuss it with him. It helps our relationship stay firm. I also don't lie to him about whether I did drugs as a kid or whether I did stupid things.
Did I say anything about parents??:confused:

[phill4paul]

His welfare is always my number one concern, yes.

+ rep. and h/t. And bless your soul for being one of the few. No joke. Salute.

[tangent4ronpaul]

How do you know any of this ever happened? Do you not believe she is innocent until proven guilty?

Don't jump the gun until all the facts have been presented.

There is a blurred out pic at the link in the OP...

Don't ya just love cell phones?

Getting teens and their (cool) parental units into deep shit since 2002!

-t

[ClydeCoulter]

Did I say anything about parents??:confused:

The article said the parents compained, I am only guessing, but the children must have told the parents?
Kids talking to parents, then parents bringing it up to other parents or cops or whatever is usually how it comes to the attention of the other kids (when your kids). Later in life, it's snitching to the public that the insiders are taking advantage of others that the ptb don't like.

[Origanalist]

The article said the parents compained, I am only guessing, but the children must have told the parents?
Kids talking to parents, then parents bringing it up to other parents or cops or whatever is usually how it comes to the attention of the other kids (when your kids). Later in life, it's snitching to the public that the insiders are taking advantage of others that the ptb don't like.

I seem to be disconnected tonight. I'm going to wish you all a good night and check out. (drizzle drazzle drizzle drone, time for this one to go home)

[QuickZ06]

There is a blurred out pic at the link in the OP...

Don't ya just love cell phones?

Getting teens and their (cool) parental units into deep shit since 2002!

-t

Not saying it is not real (I did see the pic as well as I read the article) but I can photoshop anything these days. We have a court system (or whats left of it) for a reason. She is innocent like anyone else until she has been proven guilty. But yeah technology can be cool and a mofo sometimes.

[ClydeCoulter]

Not saying it is not real (I did see the pic as well as I read the article) but I can photoshop anything these days. We have a court system (or whats left of it) for a reason. She is innocent like anyone else until she has been proven guilty. But yeah technology can be cool and a mofo sometimes.

I don't think anyone is judging the current case, but rather discussing the overall thing about parents, children, friends, snitching, behavior, "If it were so", etc...
I think we agree that people are innocent until proven guilty.

[pcosmar]

I don't think anyone is judging the current case, but rather discussing the overall thing about parents, children, friends, snitching, behavior, "If it were so", etc...
I think we agree that people are innocent until proven guilty.

I hope she beats it,, Not because I particularly condone it.
But because it is fucking ridiculous to call it "endangerment".

[ClydeCoulter]

I hope she beats it,, Not because I particularly condone it.
But because it is fucking ridiculous to call it "endangerment".

A child cannot "unsee" something anymore than they can "unhear" something. I don't think it's a matter for the courts, but I would be pissed. Some damage done cannot be reversed, such as rape of a virgin. There will be enough of other peoples problems/ideals to contend with when they are older.

[QuickZ06]

I don't think anyone is judging the current case, but rather discussing the overall thing about parents, children, friends, snitching, behavior, "If it were so", etc...
I think we agree that people are innocent until proven guilty.

Gotcha, just seemed some were ready to label her as guilty when she has yet to even appear in court. The whole thing about snitching and what not. Well, every opinion is going to vary from different age groups. The teens, as someone has already explained, had no issues (of course) as well as the mom who organized all of this. Really kinda crazy that this all went down in a bowling ally of all places. I do feel the parents of the kids should have been notified before hand about the activities that were going to take place here and if any did not object then so be it, I got to qualm with it. But this is nothing more than what most teens seem to be exposed to today, violence on TV (yet cursing is practically outlawed), the insane porn they are looking at, "role models" that act a fool whether it be sports or entertainment. I feel that those things will have a deeper impact in their lives than some girl grinding on there little woody for 30 seconds.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Not saying it is not real (I did see the pic as well as I read the article) but I can photoshop anything these days. We have a court system (or whats left of it) for a reason. She is innocent like anyone else until she has been proven guilty. But yeah technology can be cool and a mofo sometimes.

Proven guilty of what? - giving her son and friends the coolest bday prez Eeevvvaaarrr!???

-t

[phill4paul]

I hope she beats it,, Not because I particularly condone it.
But because it is fucking ridiculous to call it "endangerment".

Mental terrorist. Don't look away or remove yourself from the offensive. See something, say something.

[angelatc]

Speaking from realities I remember from long ago when I was in High School. (class of 75)
Unless things have changed more than I know.
I made no judgment about it one way or the other.

And yes,, I have gotten my jaw jacked for saying stupid shit..
Snitches were not considered "cool".


It went beyond being not cool. It was like a code of honor. No more - the plea bargain system won that battle.

[QuickZ06]

Proven guilty of what? - giving her son and friends the coolest bday prez Eeevvvaaarrr!???

-t

Haha, I can say I would have not objected to such activities at a birthday party for myself.

[heavenlyboy34]

Why was my teenage life so boring :o you didn't hang out with the cool kids, I betcha. I didn't either...till late junior/senior year. Then I got into all sorts of shennanigans. :D :cool:

[heavenlyboy34]

Haha, I can say I would have not objected to such activities at a birthday party for myself.
Ditto. And I still wouldn't. :D

[heavenlyboy34]

It went beyond being not cool. It was like a code of honor. No more - the plea bargain system won that battle.

Srsly? NOOOOOOO!!!!! Childhoods across the fruited plains are ruined in so many ways now. :( :'(

[fr33]

you didn't hang out with the cool kids, I betcha. I didn't either...till late junior/senior year. Then I got into all sorts of shennanigans. :D :cool:

No we just didn't have cool parents that would hire strippers.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Srsly? NOOOOOOO!!!!! Childhoods across the fruited plains are ruined in so many ways now. :( :'(

DAMN RIGHT! - kids these days should stick with "safe" activities, like dealing pot and acid. But for gods sake, don't even consider opening a lemonade stand unless you want SWAT up your ass! :D

-t

[BSU kid]

I see little problem here.

[V3n]

Speaking from experience.. (full story to follow if enough interest tomorrow)... But I saw a stripper when I was 15. I did more than "see" her (2nd base, not 3rd or beyond).. Never told my folks or anyone else. Grew up a Christian kid who never missed Youth Group, and know what?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvc3kvzcE31qiiqvc.jpg

[phill4paul]

Speaking from experience.. (full story to follow if enough interest tomorrow)... But I saw a stripper when I was 15. I did more than "see" her (2nd base, not 3rd or beyond).. Never told my folks. I'm a well-adjusted adult now, and know what?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvc3kvzcE31qiiqvc.jpg

See something, say something. Reported.

Whether you knew it or not you WERE endangered. Probably why you are on a domestic terrorist site like RPF.

[heavenlyboy34]

btw, are kids still allowed to jump in piles of leaves during autumn? I have fond memories of that. :)

[opal]

bikini gram? I could believe that.. how old were the perps?

I can see - not endangerment but unnecessary scare tactics if the *strippers* are my age - no teen needs that kind of a glimpse of the future

[pcosmar]

btw, are kids still allowed to jump in piles of leaves during autumn? I have fond memories of that. :)

or climbing trees. Do you need a helmet for that?

I jumped off garages and out of barns too. I suppose that is verboten.

I used to hang out at the Pullar Stadium. http://www.rinktime.com/skating_rinks/mi/pullar_stadium_skating_rink_arena_sault_ste_marie_ mi.cfm
Watching the girls figure skate. I think that is where I got my fondness for Dancers.

I may be old,, I ain't dead. And I still have my memories.

[pcosmar]

bikini gram? I could believe that.. how old were the perps?

I can see - not endangerment but unnecessary scare tactics if the *strippers* are my age - no teen needs that kind of a glimpse of the future

:D
do you still dance?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Some years ago, round HS... I used to hang out with a few friends in this coffee shop/restaurant that was across the street from a bar/restaurant where apparently some guys friends rented him a private room and a stripper for his bday. The stripper arrived high on acid... Lets just say that supposedly a bit more happened than pelvic grinding through a couple of layers of clothing... Like penetration... It was apparently the strippers idea and bday boy was kinda drunk... At least this is according to second or third hand info from our servers who knew their servers... apparently somewhere between one person and everyone got arrested. No idea how it turned out legally. Everyone was over 18...

Damned, moralistic busy bodies!

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

btw, are kids still allowed to jump in piles of leaves during autumn? I have fond memories of that. :)

I would hope not! Someone could have left a pitchfork in the pile or something - forks up! We will have to search out freak accidents files and the laws on the books. Thank you for the tip of something else we can ban. Total control is EVERYTHING! It's for the CHILDREN!


or climbing trees. Do you need a helmet for that?

I jumped off garages and out of barns too. I suppose that is verboten.

I used to hang out at the Pullar Stadium. http://www.rinktime.com/skating_rinks/mi/pullar_stadium_skating_rink_arena_sault_ste_marie_ mi.cfm
Watching the girls figure skate. I think that is where I got my fondness for Dancers.

I may be old,, I ain't dead. And I still have my memories.

Please stay calm son. An emergency reeducation team has been deployed to your location. Everything will be alright!

Why not make some new memories?


“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”


― Hunter S. Thompson

-t

[heavenlyboy34]

I would hope not! Someone could have left a pitchfork in the pile or something - forks up! We will have to search out freak accidents files and the laws on the books. Thank you for the tip of something else we can ban. Total control is EVERYTHING! It's for the CHILDREN!

-t
That's why the smart kids check for burrs and other harmful objects before jumping. The dumb ones learn from experience. lolz :D I only jumped in my own piles, so I had nothing to fear.

Banning childhood...I haz teh sad. :( :'(

[paulbot24]

So what is the end result when everybody forgets about this in a week? We have bowling alleys going into full on "See something, say something" mode and a bunch of people, probably even the strippers lose their jobs. If the strippers get in trouble for this, I just might feel an obligation to track them down and give them some cash to help them out. All in one dollar bills.

[phill4paul]

So what is the end result when everybody forgets about this in a week? We have bowling alleys going into full on "See something, say something" mode and a bunch of people, probably even the strippers lose their jobs. If the strippers get in trouble for this, I just might feel an obligation to track them down and give them some cash to help them out. All in one dollar bills.

It's for their children. ;) Who says conservatives don't care?

[tangent4ronpaul]

So what is the end result when everybody forgets about this in a week? We have bowling alleys going into full on "See something, say something" mode and a bunch of people, probably even the strippers lose their jobs. If the strippers get in trouble for this, I just might feel an obligation to track them down and give them some cash to help them out. All in one dollar bills.

OH - COME ON DUDE! - Pay um in Pennies! Pre-1982 pennies... (or was it '72...). But be nice and tell um to bring a dolly when you hire um...

-t

[Anti Federalist]

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” ― Hunter S. Thompson

Pushing 50 and happy to report, based on the aches and pains in places on and in my body that I didn't even know existed 30 years ago, that I am living proof of Hunter's sage counsel.

[phill4paul]

Pushing 50 and happy to report, based on the aches and pains in places on and in my body that I didn't even know existed 30 years ago, that I am living proof of Hunter's sage counsel.

Cheers! And many more aches and pains to come!

[Brian4Liberty]

Speaking from experience.. (full story to follow if enough interest tomorrow)... But I saw a stripper when I was 15. I did more than "see" her (2nd base, not 3rd or beyond).. Never told my folks or anyone else. Grew up a Christian kid who never missed Youth Group, and know what?


A friend in college had his father take him to a brothel for his 15th birthday. Bought him a full service birthday special. It's ok though. They crossed over the border to Mexico, and his father was Mexican, so it was all legal.

[Bman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-EU_l_pKA

Had to do it.

[Acala]

My Mom is going to be surprised when I slap her the next time I see her.

[Icymudpuppy]

I was never invited to these kinds of parties. Despite what you heard on American Pie, Band Camp is not about sex. At least not in my experience.

[Dr.3D]

Guess those parents don't suspect their kids have been watching porn on the internet.