Gun bills pass through Colorado house

[COpatriot]

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22613895/colorado-house-debate-gun-bills-again-but-limited


A bill requiring gun purchasers to pay the costs of their own background checks cleared the Colorado House on Monday, the same day the chamber passed bills requiring background checks on private firearms sales and limiting gun magazines to 15 rounds.

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[compromise]

Also passed a ban on college carry.

[fr33]

It's a complete 180 from the marijuana legalization. SMH

[Lucille]

@BrandonRittiman (https://twitter.com/BrandonRittiman/status/303621845071065088/photo/1) I'm at Magpul industries, which says it will leave CO, taking 200 direct jobs if #GunMag limits become law. #COleg pic.twitter.com/3ugi724F

Destroy jobs. It's what the government does!

How are they going to enforce the private sale background checks?


But Republicans arguing against the bill said the required checks would not stop criminals from getting guns and would be unenforceable without gun registration.

But of course. That must be next on the agenda.

[DamianTV]

Like Criminals use Background Checks when buying STOLEN Guns from each other.

[COpatriot]

Dems have a 20-15 edge in the state senate so unless we can get 3 of them to defect this thing will be law since our governor is a Dem as well.

[Confederate]

I was actually considering moving to Colorado...

[Pericles]

Starting to feel like GEN Patton - I could attack in any direction and do some good.

[Keith and stuff]

I was actually considering moving to Colorado...
You know about the Free State Project, right :)

Anyway, there is still hope that perhaps none of these bills will become law.

[Confederate]

You know about the Free State Project, right :)

Anyway, there is still hope that perhaps none of these bills will become law.

Yes, I know about FSP, but I don't want to move to the Northeast.

[youngbuck]

WTF! I emailed a bunch of them socialists too. Only one responded saying that she'd consider a compromise on both sides or some garbage.

So would current 16+ round magazines be grandfathered in?

[torchbearer]

So would current 16+ round magazines be grandfathered in?


Why the fuck are you even asking that question?
fuck them, the right is inalienable.
Send your state congress people a freakin' dictionary with the page bookmarked and entry highlighted.


in·al·ien·a·ble/inˈālēənəbəl/



Adjective


Unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor: "inalienable human rights".









Synonyms


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[Confederate]

So would current 16+ round magazines be grandfathered in?

I don't know, but this is going to be fucked up for manufacturers. NY has a 7 round limit, some states have 10 round limits, Colorado might have 15 round limit, some states might have 20 round limits and then there will be the no-limit states. It's going to be so inefficient to produce so many different magazines, I wonder if they'll just ignore the NY market completely?

[aGameOfThrones]

Like Criminals use Background Checks when buying STOLEN Guns from each other.

Background Check.

Illegal gun dealer: you cool?

Illegal gun buyer: yeah I'm cool.

Illegal gun sale!

[sailingaway]

DENVER (AP) — Limits on the size of ammunition magazines and universal background checks passed the Colorado House on Monday, during a second day of emotional debates that has drawn attention from the White House as lawmakers try to address recent mass shootings.
The bills were among four that the Democratic-controlled House passed amid strong resistance from Republicans, who were joined by a few Democrats to make some of the votes close.
The proposed ammunition restrictions limit magazines to 15 rounds for firearms, and eight for shotguns. Three Democrats joined all Republicans voting no on the bill, but the proposal passed 34-31.


Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Colo-House-passes-gun-control-measures-4287534.php#ixzz2LIOyNXoh

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[TheTexan]

Well isn't that just fucking fantastic

[torchbearer]

the temperature is rising... the froggy might jump.

[Humanae Libertas]

This is why you never vote in Statist Democrats'. Give 'em a majority, they're going to take a mile on your guns. Republicans aren't saints either, but this just goes to show you how desperate these people are in taking your guns.

[torchbearer]

This is why you never vote in Statist Democrats'. Give 'em a majority, they're going to take a mile on your guns. Republicans aren't saints either, but this just goes to show you how desperate these people are in taking your guns.

the statist republicans will increase big government at such a level of increase that people won't see the prison built around them until too late.
the dems will get greedy, go for all- and people will notice.
let's crank up the heat or this frog is going to die.

[youngbuck]

Why the fuck are you even asking that question?
fuck them, the right is inalienable.
Send your state congress people a freakin' dictionary with the page bookmarked and entry highlighted.

Yea I know. I have no less than 17 hi-cap (standard capacity) magazines. If this garbage passes, I need to know in advance whether they will be illegal or not. Believe me, I am very much aware of the inalienability of my rights.

[torchbearer]

Yea I know. I have no less than 17 hi-cap (standard capacity) magazines. If this garbage passes, I need to know in advance whether they will be illegal or not. Believe me, I am very much aware of the inalienability of my rights.

sounds like you are prepared to protect those rights.

[COpatriot]

I was actually considering moving to Colorado...

Don't. These fucking asswipes from the west coast are raping this state blind. They were nice enough to help us get weed legalized but this is ridiculous. I don't have an AK yet but I might order 30/40 rd mags now.

[youngbuck]

Don't. These fucking asswipes from the west coast are raping this state blind. They were nice enough to help us get weed legalized but this is ridiculous. I don't have an AK yet but I might order 30/40 rd mags now.

I have some for sale. PM me if interested.

[Danke]

I was actually considering moving to Colorado...

yeah, I actually want to move back there. Having lived in many places, it is the best I have found to date.

You up for some skiing? If you're willing to do some yard work, I'll let you stay in the shed with the other illegals.

[bolil]

yeah, I actually want to move back there. Having lived in many places, it is the best I have found to date.

You up for some skiing? If you're willing to do some yard work, I'll let you stay in the shed with the other illegals.

Are you being serious. I am no where near as obnoxious in real life as I am on this forum.

[COpatriot]

I have some for sale. PM me if interested.

PM sent.

[supermario21]

How did Colorado, a state which gave George W Bush 2 convincing victories and routinely elected Ben Nighthorse-Campbell to the Senate become this leftist?

[Danke]

Are you being serious. I am no where near as obnoxious in real life as I am on this forum.

My proposals to Confederate are always serious.

[COpatriot]

How did Colorado, a state which gave George W Bush 2 convincing victories and routinely elected Ben Nighthorse-Campbell to the Senate become this leftist?

Primarily California transplants.

[COpatriot]

Background Check.

Illegal gun dealer: you cool?

Illegal gun buyer: yeah I'm cool.

Illegal gun sale!

Just like that badass gun dealer on Breaking Bad.

[Anti Federalist]

Don't. These fucking asswipes from the west coast are raping this state blind. They were nice enough to help us get weed legalized but this is ridiculous. I don't have an AK yet but I might order 30/40 rd mags now.

LOL - yeah, right, legal.

FedCoats.

That is all.

[Anti Federalist]

Primarily California transplants.

West Coast Massholes.

Having perfectly fucked up their own area, like vermin, expand outward to wreck the home of somebody else.

[fr33]

Yeah we like to vacation in CO and there are a lot of Subaru wagons with coexist bumper stickers and yoga mats in the back seat. Otherwise known as aging-hippy-liberal-douchebags.

[youngbuck]

Yeah we like to vacation in CO and there are a lot of Subaru wagons with coexist bumper stickers and yoga mats in the back seat. Otherwise known as aging-hippy-liberal-douchebags.

Yea, they're on the rise. It blows. Makes me wanna move to ID or MT, but it's basically already as cold as I can tolerate here :(

[COpatriot]

West Coast Massholes.

Having perfectly fucked up their own area, like vermin, expand outward to wreck the home of somebody else.

They're like AIDS, only for a state. No cure, no immunity. Just a slow, painful deterioration. Also very transmittable. Stay away.

[aGameOfThrones]

West Coast Massholes.

Having perfectly fucked up their own area, like vermin, expand outward to wreck the home of somebody else.


Cali/Lib/BlueWalkers

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[AuH20]

The new home of the NWO doesn't need gun ownership. :)

[Brian4Liberty]

Primarily California transplants.


West Coast Massholes.

Having perfectly fucked up their own area, like vermin, expand outward to wreck the home of somebody else.


Yeah we like to vacation in CO and there are a lot of Subaru wagons with coexist bumper stickers and yoga mats in the back seat. Otherwise known as aging-hippy-liberal-douchebags.

You can have them. Quite literally, these are the same people that called for more government at every turn, more socialism, more immigration and a whole variety of bleeding heart causes. Most of them decide to leave out of the blue. Their reasons? Too expensive, too crowded, and too many immigrants. Idiots.

[fr33]

You can have them. Quite literally, these are the same people that called for more government at every turn, more socialism, more immigration and a whole variety of bleeding heart causes. Most of them decide to leave out of the blue. Their reasons? Too expensive, too crowded, and too many immigrants. Idiots.

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[compromise]

It's a complete 180 from the marijuana legalization. SMH

Dem: "We need to legalize marijuana because so many people smoke it anyway even though it's illegal."
Same Dem, next day: "We need to ban guns so people stop using them."

[WM_in_MO]

Move to MO, its the unofficial next member of the FSP (They just don't know it yet).

[Origanalist]

the temperature is rising... the froggy might jump.

Indeed.

[jbauer]

This is why you never vote in Statist Democrats'. Give 'em a majority, they're going to take a mile on your guns. Republicans aren't saints either, but this just goes to show you how desperate these people are in taking your guns.

6 of one 1/2 dozen of another

[jbauer]

Move to MO, its the unofficial next member of the FSP (They just don't know it yet).

Hell they just had a assault weapon confiscation thing intorduced. Not that it'll pass.

[Kelly.]

Primarily California transplants.
a lot of it has to due with the housing boom/bubble.
a lot of californians cashed out and moved to other states (AZ and CO being the 2 i know of), but brought the cali mentality with them.

welcome to calirado :(

[seapilot]

Move to MO, its the unofficial next member of the FSP (They just don't know it yet).

It might would work if St Louis was incorporated into Illinois.

[TheTexan]

It's a complete 180 from the marijuana legalization. SMH

Well yeah, they dont want ya having too much freedom, gotta keep that tyranny train rollin

[Acala]

a lot of it has to due with the housing boom/bubble.
a lot of californians cashed out and moved to other states (AZ and CO being the 2 i know of), but brought the cali mentality with them.

welcome to calirado :(

They may be moving to Arizona but they aren't having any luck with gun laws here. We have about the best gun laws in the country and the legislature just introduced a bill to allow school staff to get trained and carry on school property. It might pass, but Governor Sea Hag might veto it.

[Kelly.]

They may be moving to Arizona but they aren't having any luck with gun laws here. We have about the best gun laws in the country and the legislature just introduced a bill to allow school staff to get trained and carry on school property. It might pass, but Governor Sea Hag might veto it.

i was referring to the overall direction of the state.

[Athan]

Starting to feel like GEN Patton - I could attack in any direction and do some good.

That's no joke.

[GunnyFreedom]

Move to MO, its the unofficial next member of the FSP (They just don't know it yet).

Um, didn't they just introduce some pretty oppressive "ban and confiscate" gun control bills themselves?

[GunnyFreedom]

I was actually considering moving to Colorado...

Me too. Guess that's out.

[GunnyFreedom]

I don't know, but this is going to be fucked up for manufacturers. NY has a 7 round limit, some states have 10 round limits, Colorado might have 15 round limit, some states might have 20 round limits and then there will be the no-limit states. It's going to be so inefficient to produce so many different magazines, I wonder if they'll just ignore the NY market completely?

Probably not. They will probably just go back to inserting riveted blocks into standard mags. That's what they did during the Clinton ban. The limit was 10 rounds, so they took a standard 20 round mag, inserted a metal block so the follower could only hold 10 rounds, and then riveted the block to the floorplate of the mag.

If that's what they are going to do, then all they'd have to do is make different size "blocks" for the different States. Also, if that's what they are going to do, it will be easy to defeat. I specifically remember taking an electric drill during the Clinton ban, drilling out the floorplate rivet, sliding it out and pulling the block thus rendering my Clinton mags into illegal full-size mags with about....ohh...2 minutes of work each.

[GunnyFreedom]

Are you being serious. I am no where near as obnoxious in real life as I am on this forum.

While that's true of nearly every person on the whole internet, do you have any idea how weird it is for someone to actually say that?

[Confederate]

Probably not. They will probably just go back to inserting riveted blocks into standard mags. That's what they did during the Clinton ban. The limit was 10 rounds, so they took a standard 20 round mag, inserted a metal block so the follower could only hold 10 rounds, and then riveted the block to the floorplate of the mag.

If that's what they are going to do, then all they'd have to do is make different size "blocks" for the different States. Also, if that's what they are going to do, it will be easy to defeat. I specifically remember taking an electric drill during the Clinton ban, drilling out the floorplate rivet, sliding it out and pulling the block thus rendering my Clinton mags into illegal full-size mags with about....ohh...2 minutes of work each.

Yeah I thought of that, but it's so easy to get around as you say. I would expect those mags to outlawed and manufacturers force to make "non-convertible" magazines.

Just goes to show how unbelievably ineffective any gun/magazine ban would truly be.

[Pericles]

Yeah I thought of that, but it's so easy to get around as you say. I would expect those mags to outlawed and manufacturers force to make "non-convertible" magazines.

Just goes to show how unbelievably ineffective any gun/magazine ban would truly be.

The Clinton ban was pretty effective - the two companies that made 30 rounders for the military went out of business because there were not enough civilian sales - which they needed to stay in business.