Libertarianism funded by the Rockefellers?

[juliusaugustus]

I think it should be noted that several libertarians as well as libertarians institutions were funded by the Rockefellers. Ludwig Von Mises was funded by grants from New York university a Rockefeller institution not only that the Mises institute regularly praises Rockefeller. The Cato institute, Heartland Foundation, and Heritage Foundation all receive funding from Exxon Mobil which is a Rockefeller owned company. The university of Chicago which Milton Friedman taught at is a Rockefeller institution. Milton Friedman was also a road socialist, road socialism which benefits oil and auto interests. It seems strange to me they would fund such a movement being the Rockefeller Family has been the beneficiary of government ever since the days of standard oil. Standard oil benefited from patents and tariffs on foreign oil. The Rockefellers today benefit from government provided roads, a tax system with many loop holes, the Federal Reserve, OPEC, Oil wars and government provided roads. Your thoughts?

[talkingpointes]

Brool story co.

[Acala]

I think it should be noted that several libertarians as well as libertarians institutions were funded by the Rockefellers. Ludwig Von Mises was funded by grants from New York university a Rockefeller institution not only that the Mises institute regularly praises Rockefeller. The Cato institute, Heartland Foundation, and Heritage Foundation all receive funding from Exxon Mobil which is a Rockefeller owned company. The university of Chicago which Milton Friedman taught at is a Rockefeller institution. Milton Friedman was also a road socialist, road socialism which benefits oil and auto interests. It seems strange to me they would fund such a movement being the Rockefeller Family has been the beneficiary of government ever since the days of standard oil. Standard oil benefited from patents and tariffs on foreign oil. The Rockefellers today benefit from government provided roads, a tax system with many loop holes, the Federal Reserve, OPEC, Oil wars and government provided roads. Your thoughts?

Evaluate the people and institutions by what they say and do.

[vita3]

University of Chicago was also started by Rockfellers. I'm reading David Rockefellers book right now & it's truly unbelievable how many things their money has touched, here & all over the World.

[pochy1776]

I think a lot of this shit about being the Rockerfellers is partially true and false. Remember that they also fund medicine, science, banking, arts and other cool stuff. Even with all that money, they can't fix the world. It just goes to show how even the most powerful of forces cannot heal the world. If you want to complain about the Kochs, then you have a very marginal point.

[itshappening]

The Koch's are HUGE, politically they have a massive operation

[parocks]

Rockefellers and Rothschilds are one level.

Soros and Koch are a different level.

[sailingaway]

I'm not so funded. (Assuming what I believe is libertarianism v paleoconstitutionalism or whatever) I don't see how you can make an IDEA beholden.

[heavenlyboy34]

I'm not so funded. (Assuming what I believe is libertarianism v paleoconstitutionalism or whatever) I don't see how you can make an IDEA beholden.
This^^ If MI and Lew are funded by Rockefeller money, it's not any significant amount. LRC and MI both rely a lot on donations and purchases of books and such.

[acptulsa]

Rockefellers and Rothschilds are one level.

Soros and Koch are a different level.

They do have something in common, though. They do stuff that they claim is libertarian, and people like juliusagustus actually believe them when they make that claim.

[juliusaugustus]

They do have something in common, though. They do stuff that they claim is libertarian, and people like juliusagustus actually believe them when they make that claim.
My main question is why is the Rockefeller Family funding both right and left wing think tanks. They are funding organizations that say global warming is real and one's that say it is fake. Maybe they are trying to distract people and keep them arguing.

[acptulsa]

My main question is why is the Rockefeller Family funding both right and left wing think tanks. They are funding organizations that say global warming is real and one's that say it is fake. Maybe they are trying to distract people and keep them arguing.

Huh, ya think?

Last I heard, many of these things are no longer owned by the Rockefellers themselves. They're all still establishment as hell, though.

[kcchiefs6465]

My main question is why is the Rockefeller Family funding both right and left wing think tanks. They are funding organizations that say global warming is real and one's that say it is fake. Maybe they are trying to distract people and keep them arguing.


“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405


“Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
- Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940.


“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
The whole damn thing is a circus.

[parocks]

My main question is why is the Rockefeller Family funding both right and left wing think tanks. They are funding organizations that say global warming is real and one's that say it is fake. Maybe they are trying to distract people and keep them arguing.

Owning all sides of the argument? Crowds out anything that isn't theirs. An endless supply of globalist puppets in office. Why things never change (see Ron Paul).

The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers are a lot older and a lot richer than Soros and Koch. People weren't even talking about Koch 12 years ago. Soros's seed money, for the Quantum Fund I believe back in the 60s, came from the Rothschilds. There are many who believe that Soros is doing the bidding of the Rothschilds based on this. And they might be bankrolling Koch for all I know.

[parocks]

The whole damn thing is a circus.

yeah, that's basically it, your quotes there, the center, what Ron Paul is fighting against.

[BAllen]

The Rockefellers were also involved in the founding of The Frankfurt School in New York.

[A Son of Liberty]

I get paid and do business transactions in Federal Reserve Notes. I am funded by the Rockefellers.

[acptulsa]

My main question is why is the Rockefeller Family funding both right and left wing think tanks. They are funding organizations that say global warming is real and one's that say it is fake. Maybe they are trying to distract people and keep them arguing.

Look up the definition of the term 'controlled opposition'.

[kcchiefs6465]

yeah, that's basically it, your quotes there, the center, what Ron Paul is fighting against.
I believe you may have misunderstood what I was referring to as a circus? The circus is that they fund all these things as to point them out. They are content with their position of power. That someone gets an art scholarship or a grant etc. wouldn't worry them one bit. They are inherently the enemy. (Along with many, many others) They are actively working against our sovereignty and have basically hijacked the country's wealth by way of the Federal Reserve. [The fact that they undoubtedly fund some cancer research doesn't suddenly forgive them of that]

The circus is not Ron Paul speaking out against it, or those quotes. Those would be considered a means to an end with regards to this bs. I can see how that might have been confusing as to my point.

[juliusaugustus]

I was simply trying to point out that possibly Libertarianism and Ron Paul was possibly co-opted by the "globalists"

[acptulsa]

I was simply trying to point out that possibly Libertarianism and Ron Paul was possibly co-opted by the "globalists"

The globalists have been trying to co-opt it for half a century. And they've made some progress, in certain circles.

As for Ron Paul, I don't see any evidence of it. He hasn't done a damned thing to advance the globalist cause. Nothing at all.

[kcchiefs6465]

I was simply trying to point out that possibly Libertarianism and Ron Paul was possibly co-opted by the "globalists"
Global governance (assuming that's what you mean when you are referring to 'globalists') is antithetical to Libertarianism. They have 'co-opted' our money supply. Their hands are on a lot of things. The fact that some of their funny money goes back into things like this, or cancer research, or whatever, does not excuse their plans and how they acquired the fortune they do have.

[airborne373]

I don't know who is funding it but Libertarianism is just another collective to me.

[kcchiefs6465]

I don't know who is funding it but Libertarianism is just another collective to me.
It's an ideology for me. And if their money further spreads the ideology that will undoubtedly hurt their plans for a one world governance, then so be it.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

I wish the Rockefellers funded Libertarianism... we could use the help$$$.

[talkingpointes]

Troll, troll, troll. If these people funded us WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY. Oh that's right they taught us as kids that business want freedom (along with terrorist) and that we need control. Fuck that, fuck them, and .... This thread is not diamonds.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Troll, troll, troll. If these people funded us WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY. Oh that's right they taught us as kids that business want freedom (along with terrorist) and that we need control. Fuck that, fuck them, and .... This thread is not diamonds.

You are a more articulate man than I.

Rep to you, Sir.

[talkingpointes]

You are a more articulate man than I.

Rep to you, Sir.

I used to be a young retarded communist and believed this truly incredibly stupid thought. But when you follow the money, you come back to the two main parties. The ultra rich don't need freedom to be decreed, they have it by the amount of power and wealth they have. With that being said, they intend to keep it that way. That is the history of the world, no need to make it over complex.

[torchbearer]

I used to be a young retarded communist and believed this truly incredibly stupid thought. But when you follow the money, you come back to the two main parties. The ultra rich don't need freedom to be decreed, they have it by the amount of power and wealth they have. With that being said, they intend to keep it that way. That is the history of the world, no need to make it over complex.

If you wanted to hijack and divert a movement, giving them money and getting your people on their boards is a good way to do it.
G. Edward Griffin mentions this tactic in his video "an idea whose time has come".

[talkingpointes]

If you wanted to hijack and divert a movement, giving them money and getting your people on their boards is a good way to do it.
G. Edward Griffin mentions this tactic in his video "an idea whose time has come".

How do you propose you stop that in a movement that is extremely inclusive? We have to keep moving forward. We have the resources and outlets to promote the truth and to fill in gaps. We can be everywhere all the time.

[torchbearer]

How do you propose you stop that in a movement that is extremely inclusive? We have to keep moving forward. We have the resources and outlets to promote the truth and to fill in gaps. We can be everywhere all the time.


you can't stop it.
every organization needs money, and when someone is offering you a bundle, it would be hard to turn down.

[juliusaugustus]

Troll, troll, troll. If these people funded us WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MONEY. Oh that's right they taught us as kids that business want freedom (along with terrorist) and that we need control. Fuck that, fuck them, and .... This thread is not diamonds.

I not saying they actually support Libertarianism. I am saying they support it to the extent it helps business interests. I am saying we should avoid the institutions and Think tanks. They want deregulation and privatization to the extent it helps business. They want state protection and intervention to the extent it helps business. They want Libertarianism controlled for their own interests for the same reason they want to control progressivism or Neo-Conservatism.

[KingNothing]

Maybe these people funding things are actually just people, with the standard set of noble and ignoble traits, and not the evil caricatures that many portray them to be?

[KingNothing]

Of course there is some big money behind pieces of our ideology. Why this would come as a surprise to anyone is beyond me.

In any event, the money pushing us is dwarfed by the money pushing authoritarianism.

[juliusaugustus]

Maybe these people funding things are actually just people, with the standard set of noble and ignoble traits, and not the evil caricatures that many portray them to be?

I am not a believer in the new world order for one thing Rich business people have been running governments for years. Really the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are just doing what they can to profit themselves the same applies to the Kochs and Soro's of this world.

[acptulsa]

I am not a believer in the new world order for one thing Rich business people have been running governments for years. Really the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are just doing what they can to profit themselves the same applies to the Kochs and Soro's of this world.

You think the New World Order is nothing new, but business as usual. Yet you think Ron Paul is pushing for the World Order. Apparently the fact that our freedoms are being restricted means nothing to you. Ron Paul spent two decades in the House voting 434-1 against the status quo because he's a tool of the status quo and is causing the change even though there is no change.

If your position were a snake it would have just taken itself by the tail and swallowed itself to death.

[AuH20]

I am not a believer in the new world order for one thing Rich business people have been running governments for years. Really the Rothschilds and Rockefellers are just doing what they can to profit themselves the same applies to the Kochs and Soro's of this world.

At some point, wealth becomes redundant. Power is the real prize.

[juliusaugustus]

You think the New World Order is nothing new, but business as usual. Yet you think Ron Paul is pushing for the World Order. Apparently the fact that our freedoms are being restricted means nothing to you. Ron Paul spent two decades in the House voting 434-1 against the status quo because he's a tool of the status quo and is causing the change even though there is no change.

If your position were a snake it would have just taken itself by the tail and swallowed itself to death.
Ron Paul Definitely supports the Rothschilds and Rockefellers why because he supports a gold Standard. Gold Standards enrich those who have the gold and that happens to be the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Even if the FED was ended and replaced with a gold standard the big banks would still win.

[juliusaugustus]

You think the New World Order is nothing new, but business as usual. Yet you think Ron Paul is pushing for the World Order. Apparently the fact that our freedoms are being restricted means nothing to you. Ron Paul spent two decades in the House voting 434-1 against the status quo because he's a tool of the status quo and is causing the change even though there is no change.

If your position were a snake it would have just taken itself by the tail and swallowed itself to death.
Ron Paul Definitely supports the Rothschilds and Rockefellers why because he supports a gold Standard. Gold Standards enrich those who have the gold and that happens to be the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Even if the FED was ended and replaced with a gold standard the big banks would still win. Ron Paul is a supporter of a gold Standard.

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul Definitely supports the Rothschilds and Rockefellers why because he supports a gold Standard. Gold Standards enrich those who have the gold and that happens to be the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Even if the FED was ended and replaced with a gold standard the big banks would still win.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Troll Fail One: Ron Paul never supported a gold standard, but only competing currencies.
Troll Fail Two: The Rich do often own gold, but only to hedge their bets, not because it pays dividends.
Troll Fail Three: You can manipulate gold and make a little money, but you can never make as much money manipulating currencies as you can by getting the franchise to print the currency. And the banks own the Fed.

Can you print gold? No, I thought not.

[juliusaugustus]

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!

Troll Fail One: Ron Paul never supported a gold standard, but only competing currencies.
Troll Fail Two: The Rich do often own gold, but only to hedge their bets, not because it pays dividends.
Troll Fail Three: You can manipulate gold and make a little money, but you can never make as much money manipulating currencies as you can by getting the franchise to print the currency. And the banks own the Fed.

Can you print gold? No, I thought not.
Ron Paul took office to restore a gold standard that is a fact and while yes he wants market currencies he has very often spoken in favor of a government Gold standard. The rich do indeed own gold and gold is held by institutions such as IMF, central banks hold huge quantities of gold, and the Rothchilds own most of the world's gold. My point is if the Fed was ended replacing it with a gold standard would still empower them. Gold can indeed be manipulated you create more paper certificates than there are reserves to back it, you can use tungsten to fake gold, gold coins can be trimmed, and finally gold is incredibly easy to contract the list goes on.

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul took office to restore a gold standard that is a fact and while yes he wants market currencies he has very often spoken in favor of a government Gold standard. The rich do indeed own gold and gold is held by institutions such as IMF, central banks hold huge quantities of gold, and the Rothchilds own most of the world's gold. My point is if the Fed was ended replacing it with a gold standard would still empower them. Gold can indeed be manipulated you create more paper certificates than there are reserves to back it, you can use tungsten to fake gold, gold coins can be trimmed, and finally gold is incredibly easy to contract the list goes on.

He never said he took office to restore a gold standard, and if he did he would at some point have introduced legislation to restore a gold standard. He did not do this. So, we have Troll Fail Number Four: You can't read minds.

Yes, you can make yourself obvious and scare the world off from doing business with you by plating tungsten. But there's no substitute for being able to print money and loan it at interest to the nation's banks and the nation's treasury. To say a little gold manipulation, or any other counterfeiting scheme, could possibly realize the same profits as owning the printing presses, is ignorant, asinine, and laughable.

So, thanks for the laugh. William Jennings Bryan you ain't.

Next!

[juliusaugustus]

He never said he took office to restore a gold standard, and if he did he would at some point have introduced legislation to restore a gold standard. He did not do this. So, we have Troll Fail Number Four: You can't read minds.

Yes, you can make yourself obvious and scare the world off from doing business with you by plating tungsten. But there's no substitute for being able to print money and loan it at interest to the nation's banks and the nation's treasury. To say a little gold manipulation, or any other counterfeiting scheme, could possibly realize the same profits as owning the printing presses, is ignorant, asinine, and laughable.

So, thanks for the laugh. William Jennings Bryan you ain't.

Next!

Ron Paul taking office was a response to Nixon closing the gold window.

[acptulsa]

Ron Paul taking office was a response to Nixon closing the gold window.

Your contention that the guy making the most progress in making casinos illegal must be working for the casino owners because you think they also get three percent of One Eyed Joe's Three Card Monte game behind the bus station doesn't get any less silly because you stubbornly repeat it.

[juliusaugustus]

Your contention that the guy making the most progress in making casinos illegal must be working for the casino owners because you think they also get three percent of One Eyed Joe's Three Card Monte game behind the bus station doesn't get any less silly because you stubbornly repeat it.

“As a man of sense, I am a gold-bug and support a gold-bug government and a gold-bug society. As a man of the world, I like confusion, anarchy, and war.”

J.P. Morgan, 1895 in a letter to his brother. From “Morgan: American Financier” by Jean Strouse, (New York, Harper Colling, 2000), p. 348

[acptulsa]

“As a man of sense, I am a gold-bug and support a gold-bug government and a gold-bug society. As a man of the world, I like confusion, anarchy, and war.”

J.P. Morgan, 1895 in a letter to his brother. From “Morgan: American Financier” by Jean Strouse, (New York, Harper Colling, 2000), p. 348

J.P. Morgan, 1837-1913, speaking eighteen years before his bank and others created the Federal Reserve, and forty years before Ron Paul was born.

Warning: The Surgeon General has determined that your basic contentions that manipulating gold is more profitable than printing money and that the very people who own the Federal Reserve are paying Ron Paul to trash it but don't own the thousands of media outlets which defend it can be hazardous to your reputation as a sentient being.

[acptulsa]

Tell me something, Mr. Caesar. Are you really so uninformed on recent events that you don't know that these same banks hold gold for various other parties, and that there is some reason to believe that they don't actually have all the gold they were entrusted with? Can you really not see that either Ron Paul's real Audit the Fed bill, or your strictly mythical 'return to the gold standard', would blow the lid of this potential scandal? Can you really not see that this means they don't own gold, but in fact owe gold?

And did you really not know there was a decade and a half between Nixon's Bretton Woods II and Dr. Paul's entry into politics?

Don't you think this tissue of absurdities would go over better somewhere that brainless, brainwashed self-styled enlightened liberals hang out than here?

[juliusaugustus]

J.P. Morgan, 1837-1913, speaking eighteen years before his bank and others created the Federal Reserve, and forty years before Ron Paul was born.

Warning: The Surgeon General has determined that your basic contentions that manipulating gold is more profitable than printing money and that the very people who own the Federal Reserve are paying Ron Paul to trash it but don't own the thousands of media outlets which defend it can be hazardous to your reputation as a sentient being.

I am not implying one is more profitable than the other I am simply saying BOTH are profitable ventures. I recommend one watches "The Money Masters" or "Secret of OZ". Really Ron Paul is probably not working for banking interests his policies such as a gold standard would benefit them. My ideal system is one where the government issues its own currency for purpose of paying taxes and allowing competing currencies for other exchanges.

[acptulsa]

I am not implying one is more profitable than the other I am simply saying BOTH are profitable ventures. I recommend one watches "The Money Masters" or "Secret of OZ". Really Ron Paul is probably not working for banking interests his policies such as a gold standard would benefit them. My ideal system is one where the government issues its own currency for purpose of paying taxes and allowing competing currencies for other exchanges.

Ah, but one is more profitable than the other, and it's printing money, of course. What part of the gold standard is not and never was his policy is your trollish little walnut refusing to comprehend? My ideal system is one where the federal government doesn't collect enough tax to need its own currency.

And I suggest you read The Money Masters or The Secret of Oz. Then you might understand why you make no sense. Who knows? You might even learn how little CATO and the Koches have in common with genuine little l libertarianism, too...

[juliusaugustus]

Also I don't get why libertarians like Ayn Rand her philosophy of greed and selfishness is one that people shouldn't preaching. Being greedy and selfish is not a good thing. Ayn Rand was also a Rothschild mistress make sense if you think about it a philosophy of Greed and selfishness justifies the Rothschild fortune. People can only exist because of other people. In fact Ayn Rand spoke out against Libertarianism calling them hippies. Greed and selfishness breed power and statism.

[acptulsa]

Also I don't get why libertarians like Ayn Rand her philosophy of greed and selfishness is one that people shouldn't preaching. Being greedy and selfish is not a good thing. Ayn Rand was also a Rothschild mistress make sense if you think about it a philosophy of Greed and selfishness justifies the Rothschild fortune. People can only exist because of other people. In fact Ayn Rand spoke out against Libertarianism calling them hippies. Greed and selfishness breed power and statism.

Lesbian and rather homely Ayn Rand was a 'Rothschild mistress'? Where do you get this crap and why do you insult our intelligence with it?

[UMULAS]

.........

[acptulsa]

To end the irrational thinking, I'll put it in this way.

There is no end to the irrational thinking. Controlled opposition is there for a reason. At the end of the day, everything is justifiable if it contributes to The Cause.


Progressives, do not fall for this trick! People need to be scientifically managed by an elite cadre and made to pay for it. That worthy goal necessitates war and destruction against all who oppose it whether it be the Afghans or the American people. We can have our perfect society. It will just take more time, more deaths and cost so much money that it will impoverish a majority of the American middle class. It will be worth it.

[parocks]

I believe you may have misunderstood what I was referring to as a circus? The circus is that they fund all these things as to point them out. They are content with their position of power. That someone gets an art scholarship or a grant etc. wouldn't worry them one bit. They are inherently the enemy. (Along with many, many others) They are actively working against our sovereignty and have basically hijacked the country's wealth by way of the Federal Reserve. [The fact that they undoubtedly fund some cancer research doesn't suddenly forgive them of that]

The circus is not Ron Paul speaking out against it, or those quotes. Those would be considered a means to an end with regards to this bs. I can see how that might have been confusing as to my point.

Oh, I think that my response was the confusing one. I'm with you. I didn't think that Ron Paul speaking or quotes were the circus. I was just saying that your quotes were on point.

[parocks]

Tell me something, Mr. Caesar. Are you really so uninformed on recent events that you don't know that these same banks hold gold for various other parties, and that there is some reason to believe that they don't actually have all the gold they were entrusted with? Can you really not see that either Ron Paul's real Audit the Fed bill, or your strictly mythical 'return to the gold standard', would blow the lid of this potential scandal? Can you really not see that this means they don't own gold, but in fact owe gold?

And did you really not know there was a decade and a half between Nixon's Bretton Woods II and Dr. Paul's entry into politics?

Don't you think this tissue of absurdities would go over better somewhere that brainless, brainwashed self-styled enlightened liberals hang out than here?

I can't really tell what you guys are fighting about, but Ron Paul was in the House of Representatives in 1976. And I believe that Breton Woods was 1971. 5 years, not a decade and a half. But that's a minor detail.

[juliusaugustus]

Why is it wrong to say Ron Paul is a supporter of a gold standard? He is even on the record for saying only Gold and silver are legal tender. Even though this is simply not true. He is a supporter of competing currencies and a government gold standard. in fact he says such a market currency would be a path towards going back to a gold standard. He also owns stock in precious metal companies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxkGttK53P0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiPCZMImKrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ovuo2Ouv10
http://mises.org/document/603

[acptulsa]

He is a supporter of competing currencies and a government gold standard.

Why do you insist on constantly contradicting yourself?

[juliusaugustus]

Why do you insist on constantly contradicting yourself?

Why is that contradictory He wants to make the dollar convertible to gold? Is that not a gold standard? The competing currencies are a path towards a gold standard. He also only mentions making gold and silver competing currencies never other currencies. Why is it so hard to accept the fact that he is a gold bug.

[acptulsa]

Why is that contradictory He wants to make the dollar convertible to gold? Is that not a gold standard? The competing currencies are a path towards a gold standard. He also only mentions making gold and silver competing currencies never other currencies. Why is it so hard to accept the fact that he is a gold bug.

He is a gold bug. Happy?

The dollar is convertible to gold. The dollar has always been convertible to gold. You have always been able to buy gold with dollars. That is not a gold standard.

Competing currencies are not necessarily a 'path to a gold standard'. Indeed, there are better paths to a gold standard. Like, for example, printing dollars until they're worthless, and waiting for the public to demand a gold standard. By this reasoning, Ben Bernanke is doing more to bring about a gold standard than Ron Paul is. And the fact that Bernanke is doing just that is the very reason why Ron Paul is a sage investor to invest in mining stocks.

The very nature of competing currencies makes it impossible to exclude any currency. You can't make gold and silver competing currencies without allowing other currencies to compete as well. This is why back when the U.S. was on the gold standard and issuing silver coinage it had to fix the price of silver to the price of gold.

[misean]

Also I don't get why libertarians like Ayn Rand her philosophy of greed and selfishness is one that people shouldn't preaching. Being greedy and selfish is not a good thing. Ayn Rand was also a Rothschild mistress make sense if you think about it a philosophy of Greed and selfishness justifies the Rothschild fortune. People can only exist because of other people. In fact Ayn Rand spoke out against Libertarianism calling them hippies. Greed and selfishness breed power and statism.

I really doubt that you have actually read an entire Ayn Rand novel. You certainly can't read The Fountainhead and have the opinion that you hold about greed. Howard Roark worked menial jobs in order to pursue his greater vision.

The number one focus of Ayn Rand is integrity. That means having values and living up to them in an uncompromising manner. Money to Ayn Rand is a representation of delivering your best efforts to other people. She was someone very unconcerned with accumulating money for money's sake and being "greedy" in that sense.

Rand was a small "l" libertarian. She didn't like Murray Rothbard. That is the biggest reason why she didn't like Libertarians.

[misean]

Also this Rockefeller stuff has been talked about before. David Rockefeller was a student of FA Hayek. Mises had a Rockefeller grant at NYU. He'd already written Theory of Money and Credit, Socialism and Human Action and was a prominent economist long before getting a Rockefeller grant (which I don't know why that is bad. A lot of professors hold sponsored professorships.)

[anaconda]

I have wondered for some time now if the globalists actually want to draw out and isolate the libertarian nationalists so that they can more effectively utilize their media propaganda to foment public opinion against this faction and control it before it spreads too far through the grassroots. Funding the libertarian nationalists (or select imposters) with just enough money to be highly visible might be a key step in this strategy.

[Indy Vidual]

This part could be true.


You think the New World Order is nothing new, but business as usual...

Poor men wanna be rich,
Rich men wanna be kings,
And a king aint satisfied till he rules everything.
~Springsteen


Same old money, with a slightly different plan?

Old World Order = Empires trying and failing to conquer the whole world.
New World Order = An elaborate multi-generational hoax to fool us into fighting an endless battle against an unbeatable enemy, or...
New World Order = :eek:

[juliusaugustus]

More perspective on it
Big Business lobbyists did it
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126721.0
The Illuminati did it
http://www.henrymakow.com/libertarianism_as_an_illuminat.html
http://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/old-rothschild-and-rockefeller-hands-controlled-the-libertarian-communist-dialectic/
Both try to make hard to prove claims. The disguised antisemitism get annoying after hundreds of times though.

[juliusaugustus]

Also of note is Peter Thiel was heavily involved in the Ron Paul campaign and donated large sums of money. Peter Thiel is on the Bilderberg Steering committee.

[pcosmar]

I want Liberty.
I am funded by NO One.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libertarian

Libertarian
1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will
2 a : a person who upholds the principles of individual liberty especially of thought and action
. b capitalized : a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/libertarianism

libertarianism
1. one who advocates liberty, especially with regard to thought or conduct.
2. the philosophical doctrine of free will.

Perhaps you are speaking of a Political Party. However,,
I belong to NO party,, I am Independent,, and vote independently.