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tangent4ronpaul
02-11-2013, 03:29 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/wash-state-bill-to-end-private-firearm-sales-dangerously-close-to-passing

HB 1588 is the legislation that would end private firearm sales in Washington state. The bill would require all people privately selling firearms to friends or family to pay a $20 fee to have a gun dealer or law enforcement agency process the request with absolutely no guarantee of timely processing either.

Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders who are exempt from waiting periods when purchasing from a licensed dealer, would now be required to pay the fee and wait as well when conducting a private sale despite going through the extensive FBI check to obtain the CPL in the first place. Defenders of the bill have yet to explain why they think criminals will take firearms down to the police station to pay the transfer fee after stealing or purchasing them from another criminal.

The bill, written by Representatives Jamie Pederson (D), has picked up 36 sponsors including Republican Mike Hope (R) from the 44th district. The bill is scheduled for a hearing in front of the House Judiciary Committee this Wednesday, February 13 at 8 a.m. Four of the bill's sponsors are currently committee members.

Ironically in an interview with the Seattle Times, Representative Hope admitted to occasionally carrying a gun at the Capitol while also saying he wanted guns banned there. "I would love to see it set up just like a courthouse, where we have to go through security in order to get to the chambers,” Hope said.

In light of recent shootings, politicians have been clammering to pass new gun laws despite gun sales being up and gun crime being down for the 5th year in a row according to FBI crime statistics. Even more so, violent crime has been dropping since 2007. Even the head of President Obama's new gun violence task force Joe Biden admitted that new gun control laws will do almost nothing to stop gun crime, as the statistics show.

The bill is incredily close to being given a vote to a gun control supporting majority. Two other bills, SB 5625, HB1588's companion measure, and HB1676, which criminalizes not "properly storing" firearms in specific situations, have also been introduced.

Supporters of the 2nd amendment are urged to contact House Judiciary Committee members and the bill's sponsors, in opposition of these measures and support the "The Washington State Firearms Freedom Act."

House Judiciary Committee:

Representative Jamie Pedersen (D-43), Chairman
(360) 786-7826
jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov

Representative Drew Hansen (D-23), Vice Chairman
(360) 786-7842
drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov

Representative Mike Hope (R-44)
(360) 786-7892
mike.hope@leg.wa.gov

Representative Jay Rodne (R-5)
(360) 786-7852
jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov

Representative Steve O'Ban (R-28)
(360) 786-7890
steve.oban@leg.wa.gov

Representative Roger Goodman (D-45)
(360) 786-7878
roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov

Representative Laurie Jinkins (D-27)
(360) 786-7930
laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov

Representative Steve Kirby (D-29)
(360) 786-7996
steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov

Representative Brad Klippert (R-8)
(360) 786-7882
brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov

Representative Terry Nealey (R-16)
(360) 786-7828
terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov

Representative Tina Orwall (D-33)
(360) 786-7834
tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov

Representative Mary Helen Roberts (D-21)
(360) 786-7950
maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov

Representative Matt Shea (R-4)
(360) 786-7984
matt.shea@leg.wa.gov

Full text of bills and other links at article URL.

-t

satchelmcqueen
02-11-2013, 04:44 PM
fine, ill GIVE my guns to my family. no charge there.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
02-11-2013, 05:05 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/wash-state-bill-to-end-private-firearm-sales-dangerously-close-to-passing

HB 1588 is the legislation that would end private firearm sales in Washington state. The bill would require all people privately selling firearms to friends or family to pay a $20 fee to have a gun dealer or law enforcement agency process the request with absolutely no guarantee of timely processing either.

Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders who are exempt from waiting periods when purchasing from a licensed dealer, would now be required to pay the fee and wait as well when conducting a private sale despite going through the extensive FBI check to obtain the CPL in the first place. Defenders of the bill have yet to explain why they think criminals will take firearms down to the police station to pay the transfer fee after stealing or purchasing them from another criminal.

The bill, written by Representatives Jamie Pederson (D), has picked up 36 sponsors including Republican Mike Hope (R) from the 44th district. The bill is scheduled for a hearing in front of the House Judiciary Committee this Wednesday, February 13 at 8 a.m. Four of the bill's sponsors are currently committee members.

Ironically in an interview with the Seattle Times, Representative Hope admitted to occasionally carrying a gun at the Capitol while also saying he wanted guns banned there. "I would love to see it set up just like a courthouse, where we have to go through security in order to get to the chambers,” Hope said.

In light of recent shootings, politicians have been clammering to pass new gun laws despite gun sales being up and gun crime being down for the 5th year in a row according to FBI crime statistics. Even more so, violent crime has been dropping since 2007. Even the head of President Obama's new gun violence task force Joe Biden admitted that new gun control laws will do almost nothing to stop gun crime, as the statistics show.

The bill is incredily close to being given a vote to a gun control supporting majority. Two other bills, SB 5625, HB1588's companion measure, and HB1676, which criminalizes not "properly storing" firearms in specific situations, have also been introduced.

Supporters of the 2nd amendment are urged to contact House Judiciary Committee members and the bill's sponsors, in opposition of these measures and support the "The Washington State Firearms Freedom Act."

House Judiciary Committee:

Representative Jamie Pedersen (D-43), Chairman
(360) 786-7826
jamie.pedersen@leg.wa.gov

Representative Drew Hansen (D-23), Vice Chairman
(360) 786-7842
drew.hansen@leg.wa.gov

Representative Mike Hope (R-44)
(360) 786-7892
mike.hope@leg.wa.gov

Representative Jay Rodne (R-5)
(360) 786-7852
jay.rodne@leg.wa.gov

Representative Steve O'Ban (R-28)
(360) 786-7890
steve.oban@leg.wa.gov

Representative Roger Goodman (D-45)
(360) 786-7878
roger.goodman@leg.wa.gov

Representative Laurie Jinkins (D-27)
(360) 786-7930
laurie.jinkins@leg.wa.gov

Representative Steve Kirby (D-29)
(360) 786-7996
steve.kirby@leg.wa.gov

Representative Brad Klippert (R-8)
(360) 786-7882
brad.klippert@leg.wa.gov

Representative Terry Nealey (R-16)
(360) 786-7828
terry.nealey@leg.wa.gov

Representative Tina Orwall (D-33)
(360) 786-7834
tina.orwall@leg.wa.gov

Representative Mary Helen Roberts (D-21)
(360) 786-7950
maryhelen.roberts@leg.wa.gov

Representative Matt Shea (R-4)
(360) 786-7984
matt.shea@leg.wa.gov

Full text of bills and other links at article URL.

-t

The good people from Washington can always move south to Texas.

Humanae Libertas
02-11-2013, 06:22 PM
I see CA effect is taking over other states. California is a cancer.

anaconda
02-11-2013, 07:45 PM
And right after recent the good news from Washington.. :(

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020294962_apwaoakharborcouncilguns2ndldwritethru. html

seapilot
02-11-2013, 11:16 PM
The bad news is the house might pass it. The good news is the Senate is full of pro gun rights people and they will likely bury it. Still a good idea for people in Washington state to let their Reps know how they feel.


Perhaps the greatest obstacle to the bill would come in the state Senate, where the bill has been assigned to a committee dominated by pro-gun lawmakers. Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, expressed skepticism of whether the background check proposal would help, arguing that the state needs to focus instead on treating the mentally ill. She said she opposes bills that would limit the rights of gun users, such as an assault weapons ban or a limit on magazine capacity.

“You can be in the House and can be supporting some of the bills that will take our freedoms away, but they will die in the Washington state Senate,” Roach said.

http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/elections/lateststateelections/820589-8/washington-state-nears-deal-on-gun-background-checks

Anti Federalist
02-11-2013, 11:22 PM
fine, ill GIVE my guns to my family. no charge there.

Prohibited under most of these "background" check schemes.

JK/SEA
02-11-2013, 11:41 PM
Mike Hope...backed big time by the local Snohomish County Republican party....my turf...next time i see Mike i'll tell him California needs more cops down there, and to please move.

TywinLannister
02-12-2013, 12:21 AM
Prohibited under most of these "background" check schemes.

Good thing he gave the guns to them before the law went into effect.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
02-12-2013, 03:05 AM
And right after recent the good news from Washington.. :(

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020294962_apwaoakharborcouncilguns2ndldwritethru. html

In the United States, we don't have a united consensus, one which is in our best interests, regarding what is evil. As we have learned lately, the true evil is any principality or power that threatens the second amendment. There seems to be a line concerning this amendment. Infringing on the second amendment is perceived as a threat to the Constitution and an attack upon the American people.
So, allow them to do this to those good people living within the state of Washington. If there are more bad then good, then we need to start thinking about a better place to live.