Obama readying more executive orders

[green73]

President Obama is considering a series of new executive actions aimed at working around a recalcitrant Congress, including policies that could allow struggling homeowners to refinance their mortgages, provide new protections for gays and lesbians, make buildings more energy-efficient and toughen regulations for coal-fired power plants, according to people outside the White House involved in discussions on the issues.

One of the first orders is expected this week, when the Obama administration will call for the creation of new standards on what critical private-sector companies should do to protect their computer systems from hackers.

The moves underscore Obama’s increasingly aggressive use of executive authority, including 23 administrative actions on gun violence last month and previous orders that delayed deportations of young illegal immigrants and will lower student loan payments.

These and other potential actions suggest that Obama is likely to rely heavily on executive powers to set domestic policy in his second term. One White House official said that while the president does not see the actions as substitutes for more substantial legislation, he also wants to move forward on top priorities.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-weighing-executive-actions-on-housing-gays-and-other-issues/2013/02/10/e966cc06-7065-11e2-8b8d-e0b59a1b8e2a_story.html

[UpperDecker]

Ugh, new standards and regulations! Way to go President Business Killer!

[sailingaway]

The Constitution doesn't say congress has to pass laws the president wants. No is no.

Congress needs to put a stop to this.

[Origanalist]

The Constitution doesn't say congress has to pass laws the president wants. No is no.

Congress needs to put a stop to this.

I'm not holding my breath.

[shane77m]

The Constitution doesn't say congress has to pass laws the president wants. No is no.

Congress needs to put a stop to this.

I don't think Congress has enough testicular fortitude to do anything if they really care.

[green73]

I don't think Congress has enough testicular fortitude to do anything if they really care.

The key players are on the side of Obama, Goldman Sachs, et al.

[sailingaway]

I'm not holding my breath.

I just felt like it needed to be said.... :(

[fr33]

The OP links to the printable page. Here is a link to the regular format. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-weighing-executive-actions-on-housing-gays-and-other-issues/2013/02/10/e966cc06-7065-11e2-8b8d-e0b59a1b8e2a_story.html)

From the comments:

Chuck 69
9:43 PM CST
If the GOP will not act in an acceptable, than the President must - Maybe it is time for a benevolent dictator, use executive priviledge, or someone to abolish the GOP...

[ronpaulfollower999]

At this point, why bother having a Congress? Save time at the voting booth, and save lobbyist's money.

[Original_Intent]

Oviously not letting the Dorner "crisis" go to waste.

[Origanalist]

At this point, why bother having a Congress? Save time at the voting booth, and save lobbyist's money.

Makes sense but the show must go on. (call me jaded)

[green73]

The OP links to the printable page. Here is a link to the regular format. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-weighing-executive-actions-on-housing-gays-and-other-issues/2013/02/10/e966cc06-7065-11e2-8b8d-e0b59a1b8e2a_story.html)

From the comments:

Chuck 69
9:43 PM CST
If the GOP will not act in an acceptable, than the President must - Maybe it is time for a benevolent dictator, use executive priviledge, or someone to abolish the GOP...

Fixed, and wtf? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[Occam's Banana]

One of the first orders is expected this week, when the Obama administration will call for the creation of new standards on what critical private-sector companies should do to protect their computer systems from hackers.

Yeah, 'coz it's so hard for anyone but the Fedz to figure that kind of thing out. Poor clueless "critical private-sector companies".

How much you wanna bet that those "new standards" will involve things like giving the Feds easier access to their systems/data/etc.?

[Occam's Banana]

Chuck 69
9:43 PM CST
If the GOP will not act in an acceptable, than the President must - Maybe it is time for a benevolent dictator, use executive priviledge, or someone to abolish the GOP...

Assholes like "Chuck 69" are going to deserve every goddam thing they get when their wishes come true.

And the *only* problem I have with that is that the rest of us who don't slobber with lust at the prospect of "benevolent" dictatorship will end up getting it, too ...

[muh_roads]

...including policies that could allow struggling homeowners to refinance their mortgages...

I hope this happens. Let me pay to refinance. I just want in on these lower % rates and I can't right now because my home value has been beaten down so badly.

Everything is fucked anyway...might as well help to further crash the dollar faster. We can't rebuild until it crashes regardless.

[Danke]

Executive order are for the executive branch of government.

The only time they affect anyone else is if they are pursuant of (enforcing/carrying out) an Act of Congress.

[heavenlyboy34]

yay, constitutional checks and balances!...oh, wait..that doesn't work. Fail.

[noneedtoaggress]

yay, constitutional checks and balances!...oh, wait..that doesn't work. Fail.


But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist. ~Lysander Spooner

So worthless.:(

[heavenlyboy34]

Executive order are for the executive branch of government.

The only time they affect anyone else is if they are pursuant of (enforcing/carrying out) an Act of Congress.
Technically true(it's one way the executive "executes" law). But IMO, the process has long been used to circumvent Congress.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order

United States Presidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) issue executive orders to help officers and agencies of the executive branch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States#Executive_ branch) manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order#),[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order#cite_note-1957print-1) since issuances are typically made in pursuance of certain Acts of Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Congress), some of which specifically delegate to the President some degree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order#) of discretionary power (delegated legislation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delegated_legislation)), or are believed to take authority from a power granted directly to the Executive by the Constitution. However, these perceived justifications cited by Presidents when authoring Executive Orders have come under criticism for exceeding executive authority; at various times throughout U.S. history, challenges to the legal validity or justification for an order have resulted in legal proceedings.

[alucard13mmfmj]

Obama is two things..

1) Anti-american for wanting to ban guns with executive orders

2) A coward for not doing it already

[QuickZ06]

Well so much for all these checks and balances.

[Danke]

Technically true(it's one way the executive "executes" law). But IMO, the process has long been used to circumvent Congress.


It is not a technicality. If you don't stand up for your rights than you have none.

People will counter that the courts are corrupt and it is no use to try pursuing the rule of law. Well, you have just admitted we are operating under tyranny. And I can't counter that.

[noneedtoaggress]

It is not a technicality. If you don't stand up for your rights than you have none.

People will counter that the courts are corrupt and it is no use to try pursuing the rule of law. Well, you have just admitted we are operating under tyranny. And I can't counter that.

To do it peacefully? Don't consent. Civil disobedience. Non-compliance.

[Danke]

To do it peacefully? Don't consent. Civil disobedience. Non-compliance.

yes.

[Czolgosz]

Yes yes.

[tod evans]

It is not a technicality. If you don't stand up for your rights than you have none.

People will counter that the courts are corrupt and it is no use to try pursuing the rule of law. Well, you have just admitted we are operating under tyranny. And I can't counter that.

Isn't there some ex-cop out in California who tried to stand up for his rights and then tried the court and law remedy?

I saw something in "The-Newz" about how he wasn't too pleased with the outcome...

Didn't he try following the rules...........First?

[kathy88]

I hope this happens. Let me pay to refinance. I just want in on these lower % rates and I can't right now because my home value has been beaten down so badly.

Everything is fucked anyway...might as well help to further crash the dollar faster. We can't rebuild until it crashes regardless.

I sent you a pm. Might be able to help.

[A Son of Liberty]

The Constitution doesn't say congress has to pass laws the president wants. No is no.

Congress needs to put a stop to this.

They have no interest in stopping it. The Democrats have their boy in the big seat right now, so all of their nests are getting feathered; but it won't be too long until the GOP get someone in there, and the LAST thing they want to do is anything which would diminish the power he would have. This has borne out decade, after decade, after decade...

[Lucille]

I hope this happens. Let me pay to refinance. I just want in on these lower % rates and I can't right now because my home value has been beaten down so badly.

Everything is fucked anyway...might as well help to further crash the dollar faster. We can't rebuild until it crashes regardless.

After W's initial TARP bailout, O Duce could have bailed out every underwater homeowner in the country instead of handing the banksters the keys to the Treasury, but nooo... The disastrous bailouts continue apace, up in the tens of trillions now. Worst. Socialist. Ever.

We've been looking at properties (less house, more land, warmer climate), and Fannie and Freddie are trying to make a profit off the homes they buy from the banksters. If you look at the sales history, they're asking way above what they paid. First, you pay for the bailouts, then again for overpriced fraudclosures with no clean title (quitclaim deed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quitclaim_deed)) and no guarantee that the house you buy is legally yours.

We'd like to make an offer on one but there is no clean title, which is a real f'n problem.. The USG wants 229K, but they paid 155K, which is also the assessment value. We thought we might offer 100K for it. But for the title!

ETA: Ha! I just got an email from our realtor. She says the house would be sold under a Special Warranty Deed, which provides protection for the seller (the USG), and none for the buyer!