The first CNN terrorist

[Brian4Liberty]

We have a first in America. A CNN terrorist for political correctness. Hopefully this will be the last.

Who will call former LA Police Officer Christopher Dorner a terrorist? Perhaps Hillary Clinton needs to go to Congress to answer this question. There is no doubt that his current objective is widespread fear and terror. That certainly fits the definition. Judging by multiple incidents of Police firing on innocent civilians, it seems to have worked to a certain extent.

What is his motivating issue? It's racism, an issue pushed non-stop by leftist pundits on networks such as CNN and MSNBC for almost 10 years. Has it been promoted as preparation for an Obama presidential run? Who knows. That could partially explain it. But the fact remains, that Dorner's issue is racism, and racism has been emphasized, exaggerated, explored, analyzed and applied to every situation under the sun by the media, especially CNN and MSNBC. Some shows are dedicated to nothing but this topic.

It is obvious that racism was Dorner's obsession; fed, encouraged, irritated and validated on a daily basis by the "experts" in the media.

Is Dorner the first "CNN Terrorist"?

A quote from Dorner's Manifesto:


Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. (http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/02/triple-murder-suspect-christopher-dorners-uncensored-kill-manifesto.html)


And is it only the news networks? Perhaps Hollywood has contributed a bit too. Here is another direct quote from Dorner's manifesto, taken out of context, yet quite startling when viewed as a complete thought:


After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. (http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/02/triple-murder-suspect-christopher-dorners-uncensored-kill-manifesto.html)


And how about other news events, where racism was emphasized? The Trayvon Martin case was personally important enough to Dorner for him to mention in his manifesto. And this incident includes an instance of NBC news committing a fraud (http://www.studiobriefing.net/2012/04/nbc-apologizes-for-doctored-911-tape-in-trayvon-martin-report/) in order to inflame the (unconfirmed and unvalidated) media accusation of racism.

From the manifesto:


Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. (http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/02/triple-murder-suspect-christopher-dorners-uncensored-kill-manifesto.html)

NBC confesses to inciting racism:


NBC APOLOGIZES FOR DOCTORED 911 TAPE IN TRAYVON MARTIN REPORT (http://www.studiobriefing.net/2012/04/nbc-apologizes-for-doctored-911-tape-in-trayvon-martin-report/)

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/07/21/art.bia.soledadstandup.jpg

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Edit: Additional opinion added.


One trait that the Dorner case shares with other actions defined as "terrorism" is that he has a cause that he is using to justify his actions. (Disclaimer: Obviously, he has personal issues that transcend any other excuses, the guy is a murderer).

In most cases of international terrorism, the cause is called "radical Islam". In the case of Dorner, his cause can best be called "radical race politics". Influenced by the relentless use of race politics in America today, it added fuel to Dorner's fire.

A day doesn't pass where the media isn't attempting to demonize all or part of the GOP as racists. You don't like Obamacare? You're a racist! You want to cut the Federal Budget? You're a racist! You make a stupid Superbowl commercial? You're a racist! Race baiting and race politics is a 24/7 propaganda campaign, aimed at demonizing people for political purposes. The obvious danger is that eventually someone will take it too far, built on a justification provided by the media.

Dorner is probably more than pleased with himself if he has seen some of this coverage on TV. No doubt Soledad O'Brien was one of his favorite race activists, and one segment she recently did called him an "Injustice Collector". Sounds like a compliment. Is Dorner fighting injustice? If the mainstream media wants to insinuate that, they will influence others to do the same.


Fmr. FBI profiler: Ex-cop Dorner an 'injustice collector'

http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/08/fmr-fbi-profiler-ex-cop-dorner-an-injustice-collector/

[Brian4Liberty]

There has been some confusion surrounding the length and content of the actual manifesto. Many media outlets were using an edited and severely truncated version of the manifesto. The following link includes the portion that was often truncated, with the names of private individuals removed for their privacy.


NOTE: At the request of the Los Angeles Police Department, FOX 11 has removed all names mentioned in this manifesto for their safety. Also note that we have redacted some offensive language contained within this statement.

Read more: http://www.myfoxla.com/story/21018858/murder-suspect-chris-dorner-online-manifesto-about-slayings

[Brian4Liberty]

Two quotes from Dorner's Manifesto:


Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a n*gger again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”.


After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. (http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/02/triple-murder-suspect-christopher-dorners-uncensored-kill-manifesto.html)


For anyone not familiar with Quentin Tarantino movies, he enjoys liberally using the politically incorrect "n-word", supposedly to an even greater extent in the movie Dorner references, Django Unchained. With that in mind, the contradiction of the two quotes above from Dorner's Manifesto stand out. He hates the word, to the point where he will fight anyone whenever he hears it, yet patronizes a movie filled with it. No doubt the movie was a must see for the politically-correct race warriors, but it's probably a sure bet to say that Dorner also enjoyed Tarantino's Pulp Fiction, which also featured gratuitous use of the "n-word".

It seems that some people are more equal than others. Hollywood can use his banned words when he enjoys it. Others will be constrained by his judgement. After all, he has now appointed himself Judge, Jury and Executioner.

[torchbearer]

Obama is leading by example, Dorner is only doing as Obama.

Is Dorner a reflection of the government or is the government a reflection of Dorner?

[Cowlesy]

And it's practically media radio silence on it.

[Brian4Liberty]

Obama is leading by example, Dorner is only doing as Obama.

Is Dorner a reflection of the government or is the government a reflection of Dorner?

Edit: Well, no one knows (knew) who Dorner is, so he didn't influence anyone. He certainly was a sponge though.

At the very least, Obama claims it is an accident when he kills the children of his enemies, but that stretches believability when a drone strikes a room full of people.

[Henry Rogue]

Apparently the criteria defining a terrorist excludes any government participant. While this person is terrorizing LAPD specifically. LAPD is terrorizing everyone else in their reach. Unknown to me at the time my sister was on a plane during 9/11/01, but my Mother knew and she was very worried. My sister's plane was ordered to land and she rented a car and drove the rest of the way home. While 9/11 touched many people across the country, alphabet terrorism affects all always. Since 9/11/01 I haven't felt any fear from the usual terrorist suspects, but I do feel fear from the alphabet terrorist LE, TSA and so on.

[Brian4Liberty]

It's official:


LOS ANGELES - City officials offered a $1 million reward Sunday for information leading to the capture of fugitive ex-cop Christopher Dorner, accusing him of "domestic terrorism'' in targeting law enforcement officers and their families. (http://www.news10.net/news/national/229795/5/LAPD-Fugitive-ex-cop-a-domestic-terrorist)

[camp_steveo]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here.

As many people that watch the news, and 1 guy goes off the rails? I can't really blame the news for this guy's actions.

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here.

As many people that watch the news, and 1 guy goes off the rails? I can't really blame the news for this guy's actions.

On the other hand, if this guy was a "Tea Party" kind of guy, the media would blame us. And they would probably blame guns too. ;)

[Brian4Liberty]

One trait that the Dorner case shares with other actions defined as "terrorism" is that he has a cause that he is using to justify his actions. (Disclaimer: Obviously, he has personal issues that transcend any other excuses, the guy is a murderer).

In most cases of international terrorism, the cause is called "radical Islam". In the case of Dorner, his cause can best be called "radical race politics". Influenced by the relentless use of race politics in America today, it added fuel to Dorner's fire.

A day doesn't pass where the media isn't attempting to demonize all or part of the GOP as racists. You don't like Obamacare? You're a racist! You want to cut the Federal Budget? You're a racist! You make a stupid Superbowl commercial? You're a racist! Race baiting and race politics is a 24/7 propaganda campaign, aimed at demonizing people for political purposes. The obvious danger is that eventually someone will take it too far, built on a justification provided by the media.

Dorner is probably more than pleased with himself if he has seen some of this coverage on TV. No doubt Soledad O'Brien was one of his favorite race activists, and one segment she recently did called him an "Injustice Collector". Sounds like a compliment. Is Dorner fighting injustice? If the mainstream media wants to insinuate that, they will influence others to do the same.


Fmr. FBI profiler: Ex-cop Dorner an 'injustice collector'

http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/08/fmr-fbi-profiler-ex-cop-dorner-an-injustice-collector/

[torchbearer]

Edit: Well, no one knows (knew) who Dorner is, so he didn't influence anyone. He certainly was a sponge though.

At the very least, Obama claims it is an accident when he kills the children of his enemies, but that stretches believability when a drone strikes a room full of people.


what i mean-
The government claims it can kill people without due process.
Dorner is only doing what the government is doing.

[camp_steveo]

On the other hand, if this guy was a "Tea Party" kind of guy, the media would blame us. And they would probably blame guns too. ;)

Come to think of it, has his political ideology been discussed at great length by CNN, etc? I haven't been watching, but I am confident they have managed to ignore it because he is not a Tea Party or Republican Gun "nut".

[Brian4Liberty]

Come to think of it, has his political ideology been discussed at great length by CNN, etc? I haven't been watching, but I am confident they have managed to ignore it because he is not a Tea Party or Republican Gun "nut".

When they first "published" his manifesto, they removed all of his political, media and celebrity references.

[Brian4Liberty]

what i mean-
The government claims it can kill people without due process.
Dorner is only doing what the government is doing.

Now that you mention it, there is a scary similarity in a couple of quotes. Did the daughter of retired Police Captain Randal Quan deserve to be killed?


The caller allegedly told Randal Quan that he should have done a better job protecting his daughter. (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/10/ex-cop-manhunt-continues/1906999/)

And here is an eerily similar quote from Obama White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:


GIBBS: I would suggest that you should have a far more responsible father if they are truly concerned about the well being of their children. (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/10/how-team-obama-justifies-the-killing-of-a-16-year-old-american/264028/)

[kathy88]

Why Aren't we doing what the left does. SLAMMING IT IN THEIR FACE 24 7 THAT THEIR CONSTANT PUSHING FOR A RACE WAR IS THE CAUSE OF THIS. As others have said, if it was a tea party guy or some right wing bunker dweller, they would be shoving it up our asses 24-7.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Why Aren't we doing what the left does. SLAMMING IT IN THEIR FACE 24 7 THAT THEIR CONSTANT PUSHING FOR A RACE WAR IS THE CAUSE OF THIS. As others have said, if it was a tea party guy or some right wing bunker dweller, they would be shoving it up our asses 24-7.


+repped you for that, but I also have an answer.

It is not so much the "left" as it is the gov and media railing against anyone not wishing to move in a socialist direction.

We have no means to shove it in their faces. It is largely a segment of the population wishing to be left alone versus oligarchs who are completely unwilling to do so, lest others others find it is possible to live without their "protection."

[torchbearer]

Now that you mention it, there is a scary similarity in a couple of quotes. Did the daughter of retired Police Captain Randal Quan deserve to be killed?



And here is an eerily similar quote from Obama White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:

So, are these people a reflection of government, or government just a reflection of them?

[Brian4Liberty]

So, are these people a reflection of government, or government just a reflection of them?

People are people. They are the same. There will always be murderers. Most are common criminals, but some will be psychopaths or mentally ill. There will always be rationalizations for killing people. The more that government engages in unsavory behavior, the more the population will think it is justified and acceptable. The moral high ground put forth by the US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in particular, has been lost. The veneer of civilization has worn thin.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why Aren't we doing what the left does. SLAMMING IT IN THEIR FACE 24 7 THAT THEIR CONSTANT PUSHING FOR A RACE WAR IS THE CAUSE OF THIS. As others have said, if it was a tea party guy or some right wing bunker dweller, they would be shoving it up our asses 24-7.

Hannity mentioned it on his show yesterday.

[kathy88]

Hannity mentioned it on his show yesterday.

*sigh* of course he did. While he blows Rubio almost nightly.

[Brian4Liberty]

Here's a link. He gives examples of how the left wing media has attempted to blame the "right" and Tea Party in the past:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html#/v/2158408592001/murder-suspects-manifesto-gains-online-following/?playlist_id=86924

[Brian4Liberty]

A related article. One aspect that is usually not mentioned is the fact that most of the one-time mass murderers, such as Laughner, who was initially accused of being "Tea Party" influenced, have completely lost touch with reality. They are severe schizophrenics (with the added wildcard of meds). Dorner on the other hand, who has personal problems, is not any more sick than your average murderer. He decided that murder was the answer to his conflicts. His ability to process was not hindered.



...
That notwithstanding, one can sympathize with the conservatives who jumped at the opportunity to exact revenge on the media, whose complicity in a series of previous rushes to blame “right wing” rhetoric for the actions of killers such as Timothy McVeigh and Jared Loughner — and tendency to presume without evidence that violence must be motivated by phantom “tea party” connections — has been nothing short of shameful. While deploring the tendency of revenge to legitimize the very position that is being criticized, sucking all parties into a useless battle of tu quoque, one can at least forgive the sentiment.

...In the combined 3,240 words of the lead stories from the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and the Associated Press, there is no mention whatsoever of the political contents of Dorner’s screed. Even the BBC ignores the inconvenient bits. They all mention the manifesto, of course — just not what’s in it, even in New York Times’ specific post about the document.

There’s no mention of the extensive sections praising gun control, nor of the author’s appreciation for Piers Morgan, Dianne Feinstein, and President Obama. There’s nothing on his hatred for the NRA and Wayne LaPierre, whom Dorner calls a “a vile and inhumane piece of s***” whose defense of the right to bear arms justifies his “immediate and distant family” to “die horrific deaths in front of” him. There’s no reference to Dorner’s commendations of the “great work” of “Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper,” nor of his lionizing Ellen DeGeneres for her work in changing “the perception of your gay community.” Readers would not know that “Prop 8 supporters,” per Dorner, are “pieces of s***.” They’d have no idea that moderate Republicans are praised: George H. W. Bush, Jon Huntsman, Colin Powell are all singled out.

None of the people that Dorner mentions are guilty of anything whatsoever. But let me ask an earnest question: Had the killer instead praised Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, President George W. Bush, Wayne LaPierre, the NRA, and Proposition 8, and slammed the collection of journalists that he praised, perhaps singling out Piers Morgan for particular attention on the basis of his gun-control advocacy, what do you think the media’s reaction would have been? Ignore your first response and dig deep. What do you think the media’s reaction would have been?

I’m almost certain that it would have been ridiculous. I’m almost certain that there would have been discussions of the “far right,” of “talk radio,” and of the dangers inherent in “conservative media.” I’m almost certain that, as the New York Times reported after the Giffords shooting, “Democrats” would have “denounced the fierce partisan atmosphere.” I’m almost certain that the shootings would have been used to tie defenders of the Second Amendment to violence — however tendentiously. I’m almost certain that the manifesto would have been grafted onto everyone to the right of Arlen Specter and taken as a tacit list of their views. Neither that this would have been utterly ridiculous nor that it is a welcome change that nobody made such a poor argument this time around changes the fact that there is an obvious difference in the way in which political rhetoric and violence are treated when they originate on the Left. Who will deny it?

Were ignoring the motives of the insane, or respecting the privacy of individuals named, a general policy, then one could be more forgiving. But it is very obviously not. Much hay was made of those named in Anders Breivik’s shooting spree. Presidential speeches were made after the Giffords shooting, and Paul Krugman bluntly argued:

You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers.

Bill Clinton didn’t just blame Timothy McVeigh’s actions on Rush Limbaugh and others at the time, but came back 15 years later for a another shot at the apple, libeling the Tea Party in the process. In 2010, both Dana Milbank and the Daily Kos went so far as to write pieces about a shooting that never happened, blaming the attempt on Glenn Beck. Piers Morgan happily asked Gabby Giffords’s husband whether he had received an apology from Sarah Palin, and was astonished when the answer was “no.” Yet Morgan was quick yesterday to argue that Dorner’s actions had “nothing to do with politics and everything to do with deranged criminality.” Morgan is quite right. He is in no way entitled to moderate his views on the off-chance that some lunatic appropriates his anger, nor would those who suggest he does so enjoy any legitimacy. But it does leave one wondering why things are different in this case, and whether Piers Morgan’s name being cited somehow changes everything for him and for those who share his proclivities.

more: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/340183/medias-selective-belief-words-can-pull-triggers-charles-c-w-cooke

[Brian4Liberty]

What is his motivating issue? It's racism, an issue pushed non-stop by leftist pundits on networks such as CNN and MSNBC for almost 10 years. Has it been promoted as preparation for an Obama presidential run?*

This may require a new thread but it's worth noting that CNN has now started pushing women's "issues". They are running specials about oppression of women and Candy Crawley just mentioned that the GOP is the party of mean white men. It looks like they are preparing for a Hillary campaign.

Has anyone else noticed this trend? Of course they used this tactic to a certain extent during the last presidential election cycle, but it's likely they will take this into overdrive in the next few years.

[Brian4Liberty]

Wow, on Candy Crowley's round table, after talking about Marco Rubio's and Jeb Bush's great week, they started to talk about Hillary Clinton's presidential run. They said that Hillary's campaign will be about female empowerment, just as Barack Obama's campaign was about black empowerment. Get ready for years of man bashing on CNN and MSNBC.

[Brian4Liberty]

Now we have another segment with Nancy Pelosi titled "can women really have it all". Apparently it was a preview of an hour long special to be aired later.

[Philhelm]

what i mean-
The government claims it can kill people without due process.
Dorner is only doing what the government is doing.

And in turn, he was a victim of due process and a corrupt system.