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vita3
02-05-2013, 07:08 PM
F*d up.

Kid was born in New Mexico & lived in Denver, Colorado. Looks like he went to Yemen to find out about his Dad, who the drone program already killed. Don't forget his Dad was invited inside the Pentagon after 911 to try & build bridges w/ good Muslims

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/05/16856963-american-drone-deaths-highlight-controversy

QueenB4Liberty
02-05-2013, 07:11 PM
I don't think anyone is going to care until people are killed by drones on US soil. I'm sure that isn't far down the pipeline, but still.

ZENemy
02-05-2013, 07:16 PM
I looooove this comment


Hello folks, not only are the Drone strikes illegal and violate a number if international laws, they are being used to assassinate American citizens.They have approved the use of armed drones in US skies. Bush gave us preemptive war and Obama has given us remote controlled war (he may not have started it but it is his calling card). The government doesn't even care to hide their nefarious and illegal policies. Its contemptuousness is in your face with a devil may care hubris. They are so confident that we can't do thing one to stop it!

Has anyone even looked into the damage this illegal killing technology has inflicted on innocent men, women and children.

These children are innocent. They are not different from our own children.

Their lives were taken away at a very young age as part of a military agenda, which claims to be combating "international terrorism".

Who are the terrorists? Enclosed is a partial list of the children that have been murdered in our name.

The List of Names was compiled by The Bureau of Investigative Journalism

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2013

Total US strikes: 362
Obama strikes: 310
Total reported killed: 2,629-3,461
Civilians reported killed: 475-891
Children reported killed: 176
Total reported injured: 1,267-1,431

US Covert Action in Yemen 2002–2013

Total confirmed US operations (all): 54-64
Total confirmed US drone strikes: 42-52
Possible extra US operations: 135-157
Possible extra US drone strikes: 77-93
Total reported killed (all): 374-1,112
Total civilians killed (all): 72-177
Children killed (all): 27-37

US Covert Action in Somalia 2007–2013

Total US strikes: 10-23
Total US drone strikes: 3-9
Total reported killed: 58-170
Civilians reported killed: 11-57
Children reported killed: 1-3

Drone Infographics

Interactive map

by Drones Team

This map details the locations of CIA drone strikes in the remote Pakistani tribal areas.

Partial List of Children Killed

PAKISTAN

Name | Age | Gender

Noor Aziz | 8 | male
Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
Noor Syed | 8 | male
Wajid Noor | 9 | male
Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
Ayeesha | 3 | female
Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
Shoaib | 8 | male
Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
Maezol Khan | 8 | female
Nasir Khan | male
Naeem Khan | male
Naeemullah | male
Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
Ziauddin | 16 | male
Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
Ilyas | 13 | male
Sohail | 7 | male
Asadullah | 9 | male
khalilullah | 9 | male
Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
Khalid | 12 | male
Saifullah | 9 | male
Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
Nawab | 17 | male
Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
Abdullah | 18 | male
Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
Shahbuddin | 15 | male
Yahya Khan | 16 |male
Rahatullah |17 | male
Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
Shahjehan | 15 | male
Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
Numair | 14 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Taseel Khan | 18 | male
Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
Alam Nabi | 11 | male
Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
Rahmatullah | 14 | male
Abdus Samad | 17 | male
Siraj | 16 | male
Saeedullah | 17 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Salman | 12 | male
Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
Iftikhar | 17 | male
Inayatullah | 15 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Adnan | 16 | male
Najibullah | 13 | male
Naeemullah | 17 | male
Hizbullah | 10 | male
Kitab Gul | 12 | male
Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
Zabihullah | 16 | male
Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
Shabir | 15 | male
Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
Shafiullah | 16 | male
Nimatullah | 14 | male
Shakirullah | 16 | male
Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN

Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
Nasser Salim | 19

Hey WE THE PEOPLE, when is enough, enough? All of you who support war and Obama's drone program are complicit in these children's deaths and their blood is on your hands!

War, what is it good for, absolutely nothing!

RickyJ
02-05-2013, 07:16 PM
I think it is time to start shooting drones out of the sky.

green73
02-05-2013, 07:18 PM
http://www.detroityes.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=16959&stc=1&d=1353542762

vita3
02-05-2013, 07:25 PM
I don't see how Brennan can be named CIA chief w/ being apart of the unjustified assaination.

WOW, this kid was killed in Oct 2011, I just read about it today.

Anti Federalist
02-05-2013, 07:29 PM
I don't think anyone is going to care until people are killed by drones on US soil. I'm sure that isn't far down the pipeline, but still.

They still won't care.

SWAT raids, flash bangs and dog killings happen just about every day to innocent people all across the country.

Not a fuck is given.

vita3
02-05-2013, 07:34 PM
People care about this killing if presented the facts, they just don't know about it ( including me, who is much more informed than avg. bear) just heard it for 1st time tonite

Anti Federalist
02-05-2013, 07:39 PM
People care about this killing if presented the facts, they just don't know about it ( including me, who is much more informed than avg. bear) just heard it for 1st time tonite

"Good. Kill him now. Would have grown up to be a terrorist anyways."

Actual comment I've heard more than once.

kcchiefs6465
02-05-2013, 07:54 PM
"Good. Kill him now. Would have grown up to be a terrorist anyways."

Actual comment I've heard more than once.
Yeah. I've heard that one and the old "collateral damage, war is hell" explanation. The only reason Republicans care is because Obama is in office. The only reason Democrats cared is because Bush was in office. Not a fuck is given otherwise. Seems this is the only place I actually see general outrage. We need a big billboard of a limbless child on a major highway. People won't be able to ignore drone strikes once they see the carnage. Hell, I still remember that kid whose throat/mouth was torn by shrapnel. Hard to unsee once you really see it and quite frankly, I don't give a damn how shocked the average American may be at seeing something so graphic.

heavenlyboy34
02-05-2013, 07:55 PM
"Good. Kill him now. Would have grown up to be a terrorist anyways."

Actual comment I've heard more than once.
Spoken like a terrorist. Reported to Big Sister.

ghengis86
02-05-2013, 07:57 PM
Yeah. I've heard that one and the old "collateral damage, war is hell" explanation. The only reason Republicans care is because Obama is in office. The only reason Democrats cared is because Bush was in office. Not a fuck is given otherwise. Seems this is the only place I actually see general outrage. We need a big billboard of a limbless child on a major highway. People won't be able to ignore drone strikes once they see the carnage. Hell, I still remember that kid whose throat/mouth was torn by shrapnel. Hard to unsee once you really see it and quite frankly, I don't give a damn how shocked the average American may be at seeing something so graphic.

Start a chip in and I'll donate to that billboard.

vita3
02-05-2013, 08:00 PM
Money bomb to curb drone bombs!!

otherone
02-05-2013, 08:25 PM
Put fucking blonde wigs on those murdered children and maybe someone here will start to care.

jcannon98188
02-05-2013, 08:42 PM
Its not that people don't care, it's that if they speak about it then they have to realize that our Military is evil. They would have to admit that WE are the terrorists, and that WE are the ones that are sick, and twisted. To admit that this is wrong, is to admit that we are wrong, and they will not do that.

Danke
02-05-2013, 09:06 PM
Spoken like a terrorist. Reported to Big Sister.

Already taken care of, but thanks for the effort.

Anti Federalist
02-05-2013, 09:12 PM
Start a chip in and I'll donate to that billboard.

So would I

ClydeCoulter
02-05-2013, 09:14 PM
Start a chip in and I'll donate to that billboard.

Me too.

This is the one that got to my soul, I saw me and my son.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53961121/boy_leg.jpg

kcchiefs6465
02-05-2013, 09:30 PM
Start a chip in and I'll donate to that billboard.
I have no idea how to even go about getting a billboard put up, how much it would cost, or even how to start a chip in for that matter. I would imagine it has to be approved by someone right? I've been thinking about it for a while because it would definitely get the attention of the national news and get people talking. I would gladly donate what I could for the cause if someone who's done this type of thing before could handle the implementation aspect. :o

kcchiefs6465
02-05-2013, 09:34 PM
Me too.

This is the one that got to my soul, I saw me and my son.

:mad: Gotta wonder if they did a double tap. (if this picture was taken between the first and the last missile hitting)

VoluntaryAmerican
02-05-2013, 09:43 PM
Spoken like a terrorist. Reported to Big Sister.

You guys do a lot of reportin', starting to realize why your post counts are so high.

shane77m
02-05-2013, 10:02 PM
Start a chip in and I'll donate to that billboard.

Sounds like a good idea. I could probably come up with a little cash.

ghengis86
02-05-2013, 10:56 PM
Me too.

This is the one that got to my soul, I saw me and my son.



Yeah, that's fucking me up inside right now too.

Damn...

ClydeCoulter
02-05-2013, 11:03 PM
I don't know what all kinds of music you all like, but this is a song I wrote back in 2003, and I'm starting to feel that way somewhat again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guZBs3FfBqM

edit: Ignore the pic, that was back when I was real young

heavenlyboy34
02-05-2013, 11:04 PM
You guys do a lot of reportin', starting to realize why your post counts are so high.
Hey! That's super secret, privileged information! :P Reported.

Anti Federalist
02-05-2013, 11:10 PM
Shut up hippy.

How dare you say anything bad about our heros, protecting our freedom, blarg, blarg, blarg.


Me too.

This is the one that got to my soul, I saw me and my son.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53961121/boy_leg.jpg

ClydeCoulter
02-05-2013, 11:10 PM
Hey! That's super secret, privileged information! :P Reported.

Hey you, you can't acknowlege that reported info is secret info that wasn't previously reported: You're Reported !

ghengis86
02-05-2013, 11:11 PM
10 sec digital spot for 24 hours (no idea how often it repeats in an hour), $1,000
http://clearchanneloutdoor.com/products/digital/don/chicago/

Regular boards
http://www.chicagobillboard.com/index.asp
Have to submit a form for a quote

Danke
02-05-2013, 11:12 PM
Hey you, you can't acknowlege that reported info is secret info that wasn't previously reported: You're Reported !

Don't worry. It is all automated now.

ClydeCoulter
02-05-2013, 11:13 PM
Don't worry. It is all automated now.

I know, humans are the craziest people I have ever met.

VoluntaryAmerican
02-05-2013, 11:14 PM
Hey! That's super secret, privileged information! :P Reported.


Hey you, you can't acknowlege that reported info is secret info that wasn't previously reported: You're Reported !

Reported.

HigherVision
02-05-2013, 11:21 PM
They still won't care.

SWAT raids, flash bangs and dog killings happen just about every day to innocent people all across the country.

Not a fuck is given.

A lot of people will look at a comment like this and say oh you're cynical but I like your realism. This is truly the way it is. Accepting the harsh realities of things enables us to deal with the world as it actually exists and not just as we'd like it to be. We can be more serious about working on improving it when we realize this.

ClydeCoulter
02-05-2013, 11:21 PM
10 sec digital spot for 24 hours (no idea how often it repeats in an hour), $1,000
http://clearchanneloutdoor.com/products/digital/don/chicago/

Regular boards
http://www.chicagobillboard.com/index.asp
Have to submit a form for a quote

It would be really good to get one over the altamont pass (CA), so many people between SF/Okland and Livermore/Tracy back and forth. I'm sure there are good places in LA too.

What do people think about areas in the U.S.S.A for billboards?

heavenlyboy34
02-05-2013, 11:27 PM
Reported.
Ah, shit. Now I have to get a new passcode and serial number from Big Sister. :p

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
02-05-2013, 11:59 PM
They still won't care.

SWAT raids, flash bangs and dog killings happen just about every day to innocent people all across the country.

Not a fuck is given.

And where were you when the Federalists went down on the Branch Davidians in Waco? Why would it be any different now? I'll accept what you are claiming as long as you are responsibly including yourself.

jcannon98188
02-06-2013, 01:13 AM
This was put up in the heart of SLC (I believe)
http://warlikepeople.com/img/billboard/1.jpg
The people there were none too pleased. (Spencer W. Kimball was a Mormon Prophet). Not the exact same thing, but it def. made a lot of stir in the area.

vita3
02-06-2013, 07:30 AM
I really think focusing in on this 16year old American murder by remote control, without trial or a crime committed, is the best place to focus all attention on stoping tyranny.

itshappening
02-06-2013, 07:34 AM
Feinstein has tried to defend the Al-Awaki (sp) murder but she's keeping quiet about this one.

Czolgosz
02-06-2013, 07:51 AM
If it doesn't bring death to their doorstep, they won't ever care.

Too many people, who are into freedom, project their individualistic traits upon the masses. It's classic Humanity when they go along, to get along, making it a fools errand to educate. Either be willing to mind control the herd, such as has been done since the dawn of time, or force oppressive government to do the only thing it understands.

frodus24
02-06-2013, 07:57 AM
The American Empire=Satan. I tried arguing with a pastor about this and he essentially laughed at me. I never returned to that church again.

pcosmar
02-06-2013, 08:42 AM
The American Empire=Satan. I tried arguing with a pastor about this and he essentially laughed at me. I never returned to that church again.
Actually the US is a puppet of the Zionist Empire. (Rothschild Empire)
And a lot of "christians" are working to put Lucifer on the throne.

moostraks
02-06-2013, 09:01 AM
Put fucking blonde wigs on those murdered children and maybe someone here will start to care.

I think this is part of the problem, a large part of it. They can get people emotional about the Sandy Hook shooting and they will force people to give up their rights because of someone who is crazy, but cold blooded murder by the government is acceptable. I don't think it should matter that it is an american child or a foreign child. I am disgusted by the responses I have encountered on the issue.

vita3
02-06-2013, 09:16 AM
O's CIA nominee, John Brennan, goes in for his nomination hearing Thur.

Who will bring this up & restore the line of American law that has been crossed?

klamath
02-06-2013, 09:26 AM
It would be really good to get one over the altamont pass (CA), so many people between SF/Okland and Livermore/Tracy back and forth. I'm sure there are good places in LA too.

What do people think about areas in the U.S.S.A for billboards?
I almost bet it wouldn't be allowed, I know antiabortion protesters have caught hell for showing dismembered children on signs.

shane77m
02-06-2013, 10:15 AM
If a billboard is not possible how someone creating stickers at cafe press. People can buy them and stick them everywhere. Create a website where people can post pictures of where the stickers have been placed.

mosquitobite
02-06-2013, 10:30 AM
Actually the US is a puppet of the Zionist Empire. (Rothschild Empire)
And a lot of "christians" are working to put Lucifer on the throne.

People have fallen for the propaganda.

If you say Zionist they immediately claim you are an anti-Semite. I am not anti-Jew. I am not an anti-Semite.

I am anti-Zionist, which is a deliberate, and imo not so thinly veiled, attempt to bring about end times prophecy in quick order.

How anyone can ignore the Balfour treaty and not see the evil of it all dumbfounds me!

What better way to destroy the Jews than to have them as many of them as possible in one location.

There are men who claim to be Jewish that are nothing more than the synagogue of satan.

Anti Federalist
02-06-2013, 11:56 AM
And where were you when the Federalists went down on the Branch Davidians in Waco? Why would it be any different now? I'll accept what you are claiming as long as you are responsibly including yourself.

I was raising hell, as much as could, and being called a "child raper" for it.

It was Waco that made it clear to me that the government had declared war on the people.

A war that is going on to this day.

And I hold myself in utter comtempt every day UEW, that I have not done 10,000 times more in this struggle.

Ain't no one got clean hands in this mess, we're all culpable to one degree or another.

Occam's Banana
02-06-2013, 01:04 PM
If a billboard is not possible how someone creating stickers at cafe press. People can buy them and stick them everywhere. Create a website where people can post pictures of where the stickers have been placed.

That might be a better approach, even if a billboard is possible.

The "Will to Ignorance" is very strong - especially in matters like this, where people actively do no want to be confronted with the ugly realities of the policies they so glibly support.

Something like a billboard would be an "all eggs in one basket" situation - break the basket, break the eggs. A billboard would likely just end up being vandalized beyond recognition. Or it might be forced down due to "public outrage". That might be good for some brief notoriety in the media, but still too transient to accomplish very much. Something like sitckers could go everywhere and get much better "penetration" (apart from being less expensive and available for use by a much wider array of people). Flyers or pamphlets would be even better - you can get much more explanatory text on them.

Uncle Emanuel Watkins
02-06-2013, 01:38 PM
I was raising hell, as much as could, and being called a "child raper" for it.

It was Waco that made it clear to me that the government had declared war on the people.

A war that is going on to this day.

And I hold myself in utter comtempt every day UEW, that I have not done 10,000 times more in this struggle.

Ain't no one got clean hands in this mess, we're all culpable to one degree or another.

I've never had any doubt about your commitment. I'm just wondering how rationalizing about all this is going to make any difference? For what reason are you willing to give your head? They aren't going to just take your life as it never works out that way. They will humiliate you making an example for others to fear as the Mexican government is now doing in northern Mexico.

kcchiefs6465
10-01-2014, 12:38 AM
Bump.