View Full Version : Need help for rebuttal on Israeli airport security.
Carsten2012b
02-01-2013, 09:16 AM
For those of you who don't know, I'm a bit anti-Israel. Both religiously and politically. For the past few months, I've been researching Zionism and discovered that, according to Jewish law, they can't return to the Holy Land until the Messiah has come back, and that they can't take it by force (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, as a Christian, I do believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God and all that, but who do we force a Christian solution (the creation of Israel) onto a Jewish problem (The Jewish diaspora). The Jews got kicked out of the Holy Land in about 600 BC. When Jesus came down to Earth, why didn't the Jews return then? The Bible called for the Jews to spread across the nations, and to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Anyway, my brothers and parents are pro-Israel when I'm not. Besides, I don't think that the Holy Land and God's chosen people have to be concentrated on a certain piece of land and a certain people. I believe that the whole Earth is the Holy Land for God made it that way and that we all are his chosen people. My brother recently posted a picture on Facebook that talked about Israeli Airport Security.
Picture: http://p.twimg.com/ArBrr8pCIAAWgDR.jpg
I commented on his post saying “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” - Benjamin Franklin
He then said "you don't have images taken of you, you don't get searched you just get killed if you have explosives on you, tell me what "Liberty's" are lost with this."
I need a rebuttal on this. Any help would be appreciated.
Here's the rebuttal to that picture:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/deserts/booth.asp
Specifically the last paragraph relates to Liberty, but for some reason, I can't copy & paste it here - it's not highlighting on the site.. some copy protection magic, I assume.
coastie
02-01-2013, 09:44 AM
For those of you who don't know, I'm a bit anti-Israel. Both religiously and politically. For the past few months, I've been researching Zionism and discovered that, according to Jewish law, they can't return to the Holy Land until the Messiah has come back, and that they can't take it by force (correct me if I'm wrong). Now, as a Christian, I do believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God and all that, but who do we force a Christian solution (the creation of Israel) onto a Jewish problem (The Jewish diaspora). The Jews got kicked out of the Holy Land in about 600 BC. When Jesus came down to Earth, why didn't the Jews return then? The Bible called for the Jews to spread across the nations, and to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Anyway, my brothers and parents are pro-Israel when I'm not. Besides, I don't think that the Holy Land and God's chosen people have to be concentrated on a certain piece of land and a certain people. I believe that the whole Earth is the Holy Land for God made it that way and that we all are his chosen people. My brother recently posted a picture on Facebook that talked about Israeli Airport Security.
Picture: http://p.twimg.com/ArBrr8pCIAAWgDR.jpg
I commented on his post saying “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” - Benjamin Franklin
He then said "you don't have images taken of you, you don't get searched you just get killed if you have explosives on you, tell me what "Liberty's" are lost with this."
I need a rebuttal on this. Any help would be appreciated.
Rebuttal: Israel is Not the US.
bunklocoempire
02-01-2013, 12:30 PM
He then said "you don't have images taken of you, you don't get searched you just get killed if you have explosives on you, tell me what "Liberty's" are lost with this."
I need a rebuttal on this. Any help would be appreciated.
Just some questions your brother might want to ponder.
What would motivate someone to have explosives on them in the first place?
What liberties of the American Colonies was the Crown messing with and why would your brother presumeably excuse one motive and not the other?
If Christians are not of this world then why always the conniption fits over real-estate?
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