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Anti Federalist
01-25-2013, 02:10 PM
Well, I am shocked and outraged and I'll certainly be writing a strongly worded and well thought out letter to the editor about this fiasco.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



LAPD Used Anti-Terror Tool to Spy in Typical Criminal Cases

January 24, 2013

http://reason.com/24-7/2013/01/24/lapd-used-anti-terror-tool-to-spy-in-typ

A secretive cellphone spy device known as StingRay, intended to fight terrorism, was used in far more routine LAPD criminal investigations 21 times in a four-month period during 2012, apparently without the courts' knowledge that the technology probes the lives of non-suspects who happen to be in the same neighborhood as suspected terrorists.

According to records released to the First Amendment Coalition under the California Public Records Act, StingRay, which allows police to track mobile phones in real time, was tapped for more than 13 percent of the 155 "cellular phone investigation cases" that Los Angeles police conducted between June and September last year.

As L.A. Weekly first reported in September, LAPD purchased StingRay technology sometime around 2006 with federal Department of Homeland Security funds. The original DHS grant documents said it was intended for "regional terrorism investigations."

But the newly released LAPD records show something markedly different: StingRays are being deployed for burglary, drug and murder investigations.

phill4paul
01-25-2013, 02:29 PM
It was only used for "training" purposes. Can't give them all this fancy equipment and them not know how to use it.

tod evans
01-25-2013, 02:54 PM
Can't say this comes as a surprise........

What's surprising is that this ever made it into print, even on the interwebs...

kcchiefs6465
01-25-2013, 03:04 PM
Do I understand this correctly.. they are allowed to monitor all calls coming and going from a cell phone tower without a warrant when they claim they are fighting terrorism? And then it just turned out that many other crimes were talked about after listening to calls from that cell tower? (Obviously that was why they were monitoring it, they just used terrorism as a way to circumvent having to get a warrant) Does that about sum up what the article was stating?

coastie
01-25-2013, 03:16 PM
Do I understand this correctly.. they are allowed to monitor all calls coming and going from a cell phone tower without a warrant when they claim they are fighting terrorism? And then it just turned out that many other crimes were talked about after listening to calls from that cell tower? (Obviously that was why they were monitoring it, they just used terrorism as a way to circumvent having to get a warrant) Does that about sum up what the article was stating?


In a nutshell, yes.

I really don't understand why they don't just say, (to quote AF)- "BECAUSE FUCK YOU,THAT'S WHY we violated our oaths, as well as these pesky "laws". All of you are belong to us. You have no privacy. If you're doing nothing wrong, what's there to worry about. Mooslim boogeymen are everywhere, waiting to rape your 15 yr old daughter, so, fuck the Constitution and the domestic terrorists who support it. See something, say something.!"


I picked yet, another, bad time to avoid alcohol for 6 mo to a year.