NY Village Takes $140,000 Action Against Growing Deer Population

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http://www.wbng.com/news/video/Village-Takes-Action-Against-Growing-Deer-Population-187530481.html

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Cayuga Heights, NY








Cayuga Heights, NY (WBNG Binghamton) Cayuga Heights in Tompkins County sterilized 137 does, or nearly 90 percent of their population, to reduce their overall number -- and nuisance.

For Jane Lee and her dogs, Penny and Finn, dealing with deer is a daily occurrence. "We see them in the trees back here in our neighbors lawn, just kind of bedding down," Lee said. "Especially in the spring, we'll see a lot of fawns around here. They're often twins." She's seen as many as 20 deer in her backyard at one time. Being a gardener, it upsets her when they jump her six-foot fence for her veggies.



"When they start eating money that I've planted,"
she said.
"Then I get frustrated."






That's why the Village of Cayuga Heights sterilized 137 does this December. Cayuga Heights Mayor Kate Supron said car accidents involving deer and risks of Lyme disease made it a priority. "Overall, I think it went remarkably smoothly," Supron said. "It went very efficiently, we had no complaints from village residents."

Five deer did die during the sterilization process. Two died of fatal injuries incurred before trapping, two died due to trapping and one death is still undetermined. But dozens more would have died if the village had to cull the herd. "I think it's unfortunate the does died," Supron said. "But it wouldn't be something that would make me think, 'Oh gosh, we shouldn't sterilize them because we had a few that died.'"

The village hired private company White Buffalo Inc. to do the job.



Sterilization cost the village a little more than $140,000; about

$1,000 a doe.









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[kathy88]

There's something very wrong with this.

[pcosmar]

There's something very wrong with this.

on several levels.

[kathy88]

I just told my son and husband about this. They are furious. Good segway into a "our Government is out of control" speech ala mom. I nev er pass those opportunities up.

[brandon]

I don't see anything wrong with it really. If a community decides they want to find a more humane way to control the deer population and they are willing to spend more on it, then let them. They may have reasons to believe this method will be more effective than hunting as well. This is why local government works - the will of the people can be carried out more effectively. Now if you tell me the federal government is running this program then that's a different story.

[ShaneEnochs]

I don't understand... why don't they give away $20 tags or something?

[thoughtomator]

I don't see anything wrong with it really. If a community decides they want to find a more humane way to control the deer population and they are willing to spend more on it, then let them.

Once govt is involved, "willing" is no longer part of the equation. If everyone in the community was willing, no need for govt to do anything other than perhaps assure no one will be prosecuted for it.

[Confederate]

I don't see anything wrong with it really. If a community decides they want to find a more humane way to control the deer population and they are willing to spend more on it, then let them.

If they want it they can voluntarily donate money to an effort to do it and have a collection plate passed around by armed thugs forcing everyone in the community to pay up.

[brandon]

If they want it they can voluntarily donate money to an effort to do it and have a collection plate passed around by armed thugs forcing everyone in the community to pay up.

I don't think there were any armed thugs involved. This is a small, densely populated, wealthy village of less than 1000 families, and there is very strong local opposition to killing the deer, like they have done before. It's not my community, and it's not any of my business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayuga_Heights,_New_York#Deer_Culling_Controversy
http://cayugadeer.org/

[Confederate]

I don't think there were any armed thugs involved.

Taxation = armed thugs taking your money
Government = armed thugs

[brandon]

Taxation = armed thugs taking your money
Government = armed thugs

So are you an anarchist?

[pcosmar]

I don't see anything wrong with it really. If a community decides they want to find a more humane way to control the deer population and they are willing to spend more on it, then let them. They may have reasons to believe this method will be more effective than hunting as well. This is why local government works - the will of the people can be carried out more effectively. Now if you tell me the federal government is running this program then that's a different story.
Fail plan.
Nature has means to control populations,,

This is a huge waste of money that could be cured by simply removing any and all restrictions on hunting the deer.
NO PERMITS, NO LIMITS.
No Restrictions.

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[Warrior_of_Freedom]

This teaches our kids It's ok to kill living beings if they are a nuisance.

[BAllen]

Why don't they slaughter these deer and use the meat to feed the hungry?

[BAllen]

Like the way government wastes money on stray dogs and cats. Asians eat them. Instead of making it illegal, why don't they announce one day a month for the asians to come pick up the animals for food?

[Confederate]

This teaches our kids It's ok to kill living beings if they are a nuisance.

I don't think you read the OP. They didn't kill the deer.

[angelatc]

Really? Any hunters here? Anybody thinking about how hard it is to locate deer, and yet they claim some service provider managed to trap and release 90% of the adult females.

Am I mistaken for thinking a I smell a rip-off by some snake-oil salesmen? <snicker>

[jbauer]

Really? Any hunters here? Anybody thinking about how hard it is to locate deer, and yet they claim some service provider managed to trap and release 90% of the adult females.

Am I mistaken for thinking a I smell a rip-off by some snake-oil salesmen? <snicker>

I want to see the trap they used. I got a forward about obamas gun control and hunting which had a mousetrap and deer photoshopped. How cool would it be to have a real live deer trap. Another question is when the "stupid" deer kept going into this live trap how many times did they have to sucessfuly catch them before they considered 90% to have been caught.

[brandon]

NO PERMITS, NO LIMITS.
No Restrictions.



Seems pretty unlibertarian to tell people 1000 miles away how they should live. Look at how densely packed this suburban community is. It would be utterly insane to allow people to hunt in this area without restrictions.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cayuga+Heights&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl

[Anti Federalist]

This teaches our kids It's ok to kill living beings if they are a nuisance.

Or forcibly sterilize them?

Rats are living things...so are black widow spiders...cockroaches...mosquitoes...

[jbauer]

Or forcibly sterilize them.

What???!!!?? I can think of an entire group in our society that I wouldn't mind having sterilized. Didn't Rmoney say something about 47%??? :p

[dannno]

I don't see anything wrong with it really. If a community decides they want to find a more humane way to control the deer population and they are willing to spend more on it, then let them. They may have reasons to believe this method will be more effective than hunting as well. This is why local government works - the will of the people can be carried out more effectively. Now if you tell me the federal government is running this program then that's a different story.

So would you support a community's decision, as a matter of opinion, if they sent armed thugs to my house if I killed a deer on my property out of "season"???

Look on the fucking internet, venison goes for something like $30-48/lb. plus shipping because the government decides to "protect" them by only allowing hunting during certain seasons. Then when deer season is in, everybody and their brother goes hunting all at once and it's a giant clusterfuck. Now on top of that, you want to tell me that it is a good idea to sterilize the deer to reduce their population even further???

Venison and other wild game are extremely healthy alternatives to factory made meats, which if you don't pay attention to the paleo threads will probably give you a heart attack some day.

I can understand supporting a community's "right" to do something stupid, but don't pretend like it's a good idea.

[pcosmar]

Seems pretty unlibertarian to tell people 1000 miles away how they should live. Look at how densely packed this suburban community is. It would be utterly insane to allow people to hunt in this area without restrictions.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cayuga+Heights&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl


NO PERMITS, NO LIMITS.
No Restrictions.

I apply that to all people everywhere.. Specific location irrelevant.
If those particular individuals want deer removed from the area,, they could hire hunters to do so. (if they objected to, or were unable to)


Look at how densely packed this suburban community is.
So,, they moved out of the City,, (suburban) where the wildlife lived. and now they don't want the deer.
Perhaps they should find a nice apartment in the city.


It would be utterly insane to allow people to hunt in this area without restrictions.

What? People hunt around me all the time. I have hunted around other houses in the past.
No one is shooting my house, and I am damn sure that I did not shoot anything by mistake,, (old cars and signs were on purpose)

[dannno]

Why don't they slaughter these deer and use the meat to feed the hungry?

Fuck the "hungry", How about I'll buy the "hungry" some ground beef for $6/lb and pay a premium on top of that for the venison?

[oyarde]

I proclaim this village idiots.The Cayuga Nation should demand they drop use of name, lol.