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green73
01-17-2013, 02:54 PM
This entire thing is worth listening to but go to 51:44 to hear about Tom's involvement in RP's big project.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QtEQxNyj6-U

green73
01-17-2013, 02:55 PM
This will probably really bug LibertyEagle.

sailingaway
01-17-2013, 02:57 PM
I am so glad he will be part of it!! There are things that just plain don't interest Ron and he needs a believer handling them, because they are the interface with us and others, and shape the information Ron gets, that uses for making decisions.

AdamT
01-17-2013, 02:59 PM
What exactly is the project?

green73
01-17-2013, 03:02 PM
What exactly is the project?

It's a secret, but Lew Rockwell said it will make Glenn Beck chew on diet coke cans.

AdamT
01-17-2013, 03:03 PM
Some kind of Liberty News show I'm guessing?

itshappening
01-17-2013, 03:03 PM
The problem is while Tom has a brilliant mind he isn't very good at communicating with your typical GOP voter... indeed he prefers to ridicule them.

I still like him though and whatever this is will play well with the base but will it win us new friends?

July
01-17-2013, 03:14 PM
It's a secret, but Lew Rockwell said it will make Glenn Beck chew on diet coke cans.

LOL!

This should be interesting. :)

fisharmor
01-17-2013, 03:15 PM
As long as it's not an argument that we should consider voting for Cynthia McKinney, it's probably a good idea.

Danan
01-17-2013, 03:36 PM
Awesome!

Eric21ND
01-17-2013, 03:37 PM
Some kind of Liberty News show I'm guessing?
It's about time.

LibertyEagle
01-17-2013, 03:41 PM
This will probably really bug LibertyEagle.

I think it's great that Tom will be working on something constructive, as opposed to insulting other of Ron's projects behind his back and doing what he could to derail them.

sailingaway
01-17-2013, 03:56 PM
Some kind of Liberty News show I'm guessing?

some kind of web programing is all we know. News, issues, action items, education, all of the above, I dunno.

green73
01-17-2013, 04:16 PM
I think it's great that Tom will be working on something constructive, as opposed to insulting other of Ron's projects behind his back and doing what he could to derail them.

Thankfully Ron Paul and just about everybody else doesn't see it that way.

ronpaulfollower999
01-17-2013, 04:22 PM
This is awesome!

ninepointfive
01-17-2013, 04:51 PM
I think it's great that Tom will be working on something constructive, as opposed to insulting other of Ron's projects behind his back and doing what he could to derail them.

Boy is this a dense comment. Why do you think Tom will be working on this project and not Ron Paul Inc. ? Because He likes Tom Woods!

Time will tell whether we see if the "others" are welcome at the corral

mac_hine
01-17-2013, 04:54 PM
I think it's great that Tom will be working on something constructive, as opposed to insulting other of Ron's projects behind his back and doing what he could to derail them.

After the campaign(Benton) snubbed Woods, this is what he was up to:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vXmbAUgzYM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPqG3fiff1g

He didn't derail anything. For you to make that erroneous claim shows either ignorance or your part, or dishonesty. I think it's the latter. You don't like Woods, and you've made it quite clear in the past.

Deborah K
01-17-2013, 05:36 PM
Go Tom!!

kathy88
01-17-2013, 05:58 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS

cajuncocoa
01-17-2013, 06:10 PM
Great news!

ClydeCoulter
01-17-2013, 06:21 PM
Sounds good to me.

PatriotOne
01-17-2013, 06:50 PM
I hope Ron goes big on this and not some simple, cheap set up. I want Alex Jones type set up! I want people like Ben Swan as talent. I want reporters, camera people, etc. Need a few mil Ron to do this right. Just ask and we will hook you up! This could really be as big as Ron wants it to be. He's got a million people right off the bat who would subscribe. Could literally be the biggest debut of a radio show EVER. $100 a yr subscription fee mean 100 million dollars a yr to spend on set up/talent. Need it up front? Okay by me. I would give him a $100 right now if he asked. Heck I would give him more than that if he asked

GO BIG RON!!!

REALLY BIG!

sailingaway
01-17-2013, 07:13 PM
I want quality too.

LibertyEagle
01-18-2013, 12:34 AM
Boy is this a dense comment. Why do you think Tom will be working on this project and not Ron Paul Inc. ? Because He likes Tom Woods!



^^ Boy, is THIS dense. Yeah, I'm sure Ron just loved when Woods publicly slammed his campaign during its height and has since published hearsay, without doing one ounce of fact-checking, that made all kinds of unfounded accusations about people like Doug Wead.


Time will tell whether we see if the "others" are welcome at the corral

ROFL

Time has already told. It's called the Campaign for Liberty.

That said, it's good that Woods is going to be working on this project with Ron. He definitely has some things to offer in various aspects and hopefully, this will be a place where his talents can be used.

BucksforPaul
01-18-2013, 12:37 AM
After the campaign(Benton) snubbed Woods, this is what he was up to:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vXmbAUgzYM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPqG3fiff1g

He didn't derail anything. For you to make that erroneous claim shows either ignorance or your part, or dishonesty. I think it's the latter. You don't like Woods, and you've made it quite clear in the past.

Pwnage

american.swan
01-18-2013, 12:39 AM
YouTube.googleapis.com doesn't work for me.

BuddyRey
01-18-2013, 05:41 AM
The more involvement Tom Woods has in the movement, the better. The guy's principles are unflappable, as are his scholarly credentials. I'm looking forward to this!

Brent Pierce
01-18-2013, 07:04 AM
Tom Woods is an MVP to the Liberty movement. This guy uses his time to look all over for the biggest and most popular criticisms of Liberty and tackles them head on. He also does everything he can to improve our ability to defend and advance the ideas that Ron Paul has made popular.

green73
01-18-2013, 11:14 AM
^^ Boy, is THIS dense. Yeah, I'm sure Ron just loved when Woods publicly slammed his campaign during its height and has since published hearsay, without doing one ounce of fact-checking, that made all kinds of unfounded accusations about people like Doug Wead.

He slammed Jesse Benton in an off the cuff statement during a LibertyChat. This was at the end of March. The writing was pretty much on the wall at this point about RP's chances, not at the height of the campaign as you have said. By this point there was no shortage of contempt in the liberty community regarding Benton.

The rest of your statement is pure bullshit. Woods did not go on the record again until September. Then when he did he spoke from personal experience. It turns out he was right about Benton. What's this about him making "all kinds of unfounded accusations about people like Doug Wead"?

ZENemy
01-18-2013, 11:28 AM
Didnt Ghandi come alive and start really shaking things up after he gave up on and left the British government?

I sure hope Ron Paul is traveling down a similar path :)

sailingaway
01-18-2013, 11:43 AM
He slammed Jesse Benton in an off the cuff statement during a LibertyChat. This was at the end of March. The writing was pretty much on the wall at this point about RP's chances, not at the height of the campaign as you have said. By this point there was no shortage of contempt in the liberty community regarding Benton.

The rest of your statement is pure bullshit. Woods did not go on the record again until September. Then when he did he spoke from personal experience. It turns out he was right about Benton. What's this about him making "all kinds of unfounded accusations about people like Doug Wead"?

He made a post about future C4L focus and included Wead in a group of some pushing for an unpopular position, and Wead said no, he wasn't involved, hadn't been at the conversation in question and was not employed by the same employer. Woods corrected his post to take Wead out of the group.

I do think TW occassionally isn't precise, is occasionally more snarky than necessary, but I'll take those qualities with all his others, working for Ron. No one is perfect and I think Ron needs people like Tom Woods at his side.

helmuth_hubener
01-18-2013, 11:50 AM
I really like this Mike Salvi! You're right, green73, the whole thing is worth listening to.

belian78
01-18-2013, 11:53 AM
Where would someone go to get more info on this project?

sailingaway
01-18-2013, 11:56 AM
Where would someone go to get more info on this project?

we are all waiting for the big announcement. It is taking forever....

green73
01-18-2013, 11:58 AM
I really like this Mike Salvi! You're right, green73, the whole thing is worth listening to.

He's great! The beginning of this podcast had me in hysterics.

mac_hine
01-18-2013, 12:16 PM
He's great! The beginning of this podcast had me in hysterics.

I listened to the whole thing last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting!

This episode should be great also. He interviews Larken Rose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t68FruUasM&list=PL-sagavSvMdMIn5Ph4D1eikrsMWh6JQQW&index=6

green73
01-18-2013, 12:18 PM
I listened to the whole thing last night and thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting!

This episode should be great also. He interviews Larken Rose.
[video]

Thanks! I put it on my "watch later" list.

LibertyEagle
01-18-2013, 07:15 PM
He slammed Jesse Benton in an off the cuff statement during a LibertyChat. This was at the end of March. The writing was pretty much on the wall at this point about RP's chances, not at the height of the campaign as you have said.
In your opinion, it was over. One hell of a lot of people didn't share YOUR opinion.


By this point there was no shortage of contempt in the liberty community regarding Benton.
Yappers on the forums, no. Actual activists, not so much. Most people didn't even know who the hell Benton was. But, these were people who were out there actually doing something.


The rest of your statement is pure bullshit. Woods did not go on the record again until September. Then when he did he spoke from personal experience. It turns out he was right about Benton. What's this about him making "all kinds of unfounded accusations about people like Doug Wead"?

Woods is not God and he showed exactly what he was made of when he publicly attacked RON PAUL'S campaign. If he, as he claimed, was only trying to get the information to Ron, perhaps picking up the phone might have been a bit more appropriate. :rolleyes: But, he didn't do that did he.

LibertyEagle
01-18-2013, 07:17 PM
He made a post about future C4L focus and included Wead in a group of some pushing for an unpopular position, and Wead said no, he wasn't involved, hadn't been at the conversation in question and was not employed by the same employer. Woods corrected his post to take Wead out of the group.

I do think TW occassionally isn't precise, is occasionally more snarky than necessary, but I'll take those qualities with all his others, working for Ron. No one is perfect and I think Ron needs people like Tom Woods at his side.

Yeah, maybe it will keep his mouth directed towards actually helping the liberty movement.

Keep your friends close and your enemies, closer.

jmdrake
01-18-2013, 07:21 PM
Yeah, maybe it will keep his mouth directed towards actually helping the liberty movement.

Keep your friends close and your enemies, closer.

Time to just get over it LE. If Ron is working with Tom then you attacking Tom is no better than others attacking Benton.

LibertyEagle
01-18-2013, 07:22 PM
Time to just get over it LE.

Nah, I think I will remember it. I will forgive him, but I will never forget it. History has a bad habit of being repeated.

jmdrake
01-18-2013, 07:23 PM
Nah, I think I will remember it. I will forgive him, but I will never forget it.

Fine. But now you are becoming like the people you've been attacking for attacking Benton. Think about it.

LibertyEagle
01-18-2013, 07:25 PM
Fine. But now you are becoming like the people you've been attacking for attacking Benton. Think about it.

Perhaps you should have that discussion with green behind the gills.

FreeHampshire
01-18-2013, 07:40 PM
So what's the speculation concerning this announcement?

sailingaway
01-18-2013, 07:41 PM
So what's the speculation concerning this announcement?

web programing. beyond that, no clue. If you hear more, let us know!

green73
01-18-2013, 07:47 PM
Perhaps you should have that discussion with green behind the gills.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0JHEL8Pl_Ek/TeX-sOSPVZI/AAAAAAAAEiw/TdMdEQRgzz0/s1600/ohno1vw.gif

sailingaway
01-18-2013, 07:48 PM
Given Beck is gearing up a pseudo libertarian site and will have to pull in some of the real deal to have anything remotely approaching credibility, it is a good thing Ron signed Tom up first, imho.

Feeding the Abscess
01-18-2013, 07:59 PM
Given Beck is gearing up a pseudo libertarian site and will have to pull in some of the real deal to have anything remotely approaching credibility, it is a good thing Ron signed Tom up first, imho.

I don't think there's a chance Woods would have worked for Beck.

jmdrake
01-18-2013, 10:20 PM
Perhaps you should have that discussion with green behind the gills.

Why? Is he attacking Tom Woods now? :rolleyes: The point is, if you don't like folks attacking people Ron has chosen to work with, then don't attack someone Ron has chosen to work with. If Tom Woods is fair game even now, then don't complain next time someone rips Benton.

SilentBull
01-18-2013, 10:26 PM
The problem is while Tom has a brilliant mind he isn't very good at communicating with your typical GOP voter... indeed he prefers to ridicule them.

I still like him though and whatever this is will play well with the base but will it win us new friends?

Agree.

sailingaway
01-18-2013, 10:28 PM
In an educational setting why is there particular need to focus on the Gop primary voter?

FSP-Rebel
01-19-2013, 11:00 AM
In an educational setting why is there particular need to focus on the Gop primary voter?
I presume Ron's plan to continually educate people is steeped in some form of eventual activism on their part after the fact, at some point. At the top of the list of activism, among other things, is likely the bolstering of our ranks in reforming the GOP from the bottom up so that DC can be plunged for once. I mean, why would Ron back off his plan to restore the GOP that he started 5 years ago esp since his son is a heavy hitter these days..

CaptLouAlbano
01-19-2013, 11:07 AM
I presume Ron's plan to continually educate people is steeped in some form of eventual activism on their part after the fact, at some point. At the top of the list of activism, among other things, is likely the bolstering of our ranks in reforming the GOP from the bottom up so that DC can be plunged for once. I mean, why would Ron back off his plan to restore the GOP that he started 5 years ago esp since his son is a heavy hitter these days..

Right. All the education in the world is meaningless if one does not do something with the knowledge they have gained.

talkingpointes
01-19-2013, 11:18 AM
The problem is while Tom has a brilliant mind he isn't very good at communicating with your typical GOP voter... indeed he prefers to ridicule them.

I still like him though and whatever this is will play well with the base but will it win us new friends?

Are you being serious. He is one of the only moderate people we have. He speaks to all the ex-republicans. He isn't crass or harsh to listen to. Plus he holds the degrees for the universities most of the public takes serious.

LibertyEagle
01-19-2013, 11:27 AM
Why? Is he attacking Tom Woods now? :rolleyes: The point is, if you don't like folks attacking people Ron has chosen to work with, then don't attack someone Ron has chosen to work with. If Tom Woods is fair game even now, then don't complain next time someone rips Benton.

Tom Woods attacked Ron's campaign. Benton didn't. HUGE difference.

Still, I said he had useful qualities and I hoped he used them in this project. If you want internet fallatio performed on him, you will have to do it yourself.

green73
01-19-2013, 11:35 AM
Obvious RP sees it differently than our esteemed member above. Perhaps he realizes Benton is a jerk as well?

LibertyEagle
01-19-2013, 11:37 AM
Obvious RP sees it differently than our esteemed member above. Perhaps he realizes Benton is a jerk as well?

I didn't say that. You did.

specsaregood
01-19-2013, 11:45 AM
This will probably really bug LibertyEagle.

And with this unnecessary provocation, the thread immediately takes a predictable turn for the worse and a debate of personalities instead of a positive thread talking about the possibilities. Perhaps next time post the content, discuss the subject and avoid making it personal with snipes about other rpf members.

sailingaway
01-19-2013, 11:48 AM
I presume Ron's plan to continually educate people is steeped in some form of eventual activism on their part after the fact, at some point. At the top of the list of activism, among other things, is likely the bolstering of our ranks in reforming the GOP from the bottom up so that DC can be plunged for once. I mean, why would Ron back off his plan to restore the GOP that he started 5 years ago esp since his son is a heavy hitter these days..

I suspect Ron is keeping the torch going which draws people in to begin with, and that would mean continuing spreading the message as he always had. The campaign may have been over as to the nomination in April, but he was drawing an average of 5,000 people to every event and more and more people were tuning in.

Just as our candidates, in office, find it hard to get things done when they are surrounded with establishment murk the institutional existence of which pushes back, if the people really want this, the politicians will find themselves needing to cater to it.

Ron already said it himself: "I am not just trying to win an election, I am trying to change the course of history!"

Then when people are tuned in, they will look around for the best candidates and find them, but those candidates aren't lighting the sort of torch that brings in the mass of Americans that don't even tune into primaries - yet.

Ron's supporters, many of us, came out of 'nowhere' as far as primary polling goes.

FSP-Rebel
01-19-2013, 12:15 PM
Ron already said it himself: "I am not just trying to win an election, I am trying to change the course of history!"

Then when people are tuned in, they will look around for the best candidates and find them, but those candidates aren't lighting the sort of torch that brings in the mass of Americans that don't even tune into primaries - yet.

Ron's supporters, many of us, came out of 'nowhere' as far as primary polling goes.
And that's why I'm so pumped about Ron's "retirement" activities. Instead of playing bridge or golf, his hobby of purveying educationally induced activism is so inspiring. No doubt about it he's Founding Father material and then some.

sailingaway
01-19-2013, 12:19 PM
I don't see is as a hobby but the next turn in his career. I don't think he was built to sit still.

LibertyEagle
01-19-2013, 01:44 PM
I didn't say that. You did.

You neg rep me and call me a "twisted sister", because I called you on your lie? Interesting.

green73
01-19-2013, 01:52 PM
You neg rep me and call me a "twisted sister", because I called you on your lie? Interesting.

Sigh, I was prepared to let this drop but you won't let it.

Ok, how is this a lie? How is it even neg-worthy?


Obvious RP sees it differently than our esteemed member above. Perhaps he realizes Benton is a jerk as well?

jmdrake
01-19-2013, 05:23 PM
Tom Woods attacked Ron's campaign. Benton didn't. HUGE difference.

Still, I said he had useful qualities and I hoped he used them in this project. If you want internet fallatio performed on him, you will have to do it yourself.

Tom Woods did not attack Ron Paul. He attacked obvious shortcomings in Ron Paul's campaign. Now Ron Paul has chosen Tom Woods to help him post campaign. By attacking Tom Woods, and being vulgar in the process, you are behaving worse than Tom Woods. Worse than Alex Jones in fact. But hey, eat yourself up all you want. Life will go on without you.

NewFederalist
01-20-2013, 12:54 PM
*SIGH* This thread reads like something you would expect from the Libertarians! Never miss an opportunity for a circular firing squad!

green73
01-20-2013, 12:58 PM
*SIGH* This thread reads like something you would expect from the Libertarians! Never miss an opportunity for a circular firing squad!

I know! When will we start all falling in line like the republicrats?!!

LibertyEagle
01-20-2013, 01:06 PM
Tom Woods did not attack Ron Paul. He attacked obvious shortcomings in Ron Paul's campaign. Now Ron Paul has chosen Tom Woods to help him post campaign. By attacking Tom Woods, and being vulgar in the process, you are behaving worse than Tom Woods. Worse than Alex Jones in fact. But hey, eat yourself up all you want. Life will go on without you.

You just want to keep this going, don't you Drake. Woods attacked Ron Paul's hand-picked campaign staff for his presidential campaign. For Woods to publicly attack that, while claiming out of one side of his mouth, that he is trying to help, is more than disingenuous. Now, if you want to back that kind of bullshit, which you clearly do, that is your prerogative. I will not.

It says a lot about you, actually.

I'm not at all worried about my reputation. Perhaps you should be concerned about your own.

FriedChicken
01-20-2013, 01:36 PM
Who all do we know is involved in this so far?
I'm counting Ron, Tom and [I'm assuming] Lew.

Anyone else we know of?

I'm extremely excited about this, to the point I'm worried I'll be disappointed. Tom and Lew are internet pros (I mean in the way they utilize it) and seems like some great stuff can come from it but I'm really wanting something new. I don't know what I'm wanting exactly ... just seems there's a hole and I don't know its shape.

we have YAL, C4L, Mises.org, etc. I'm just hoping there's as little overlap as possible with those site's activities.

A full blown media outlet would be very cool. Especially if they made a way to watch it through internet connected game systems (like netflix does).

DylanWaco
01-20-2013, 08:38 PM
So according to LE the political wing of the Liberty Movement can never be criticized? Political operatives are above even mild criticism so long as they have hitched themselves to the right wagon. Spoken like a true Obama cultists.

jmdrake
01-20-2013, 08:53 PM
You just want to keep this going, don't you Drake.

No. I'm telling you that you need to let this go. That's what I said from jump. You are the one arrogantly trying to keep it going. And you're making yourself look bad.



Woods attacked Ron Paul's hand-picked campaign staff for his presidential campaign.


And now Woods is part of Ron Paul's hand-picked post campaign staff. So everything you've said in the past about how people weren't showing respect for Ron's judgement by attacking his staff applies to you. Only it's worse in your case because your only criticism of Woods is that he made criticism of Ron's staff. Woods criticism of was justified especially in light of recent revelations that someone on Ron's staff didn't take the obvious step of taking a few hundred from the millions they got in money bombs and lock down RonPaul.com for the foreseeable future.



For Woods to publicly attack that, while claiming out of one side of his mouth, that he is trying to help, is more than disingenuous.


Whatever. Now Ron has come to the conclusion that Woods help is worth it. Deal with it.



Now, if you want to back that kind of bullshit, which you clearly do, that is your prerogative. I will not.


I'm backing Ron's decision. If you know longer support Ron fine. The fact is I've never been a fan of Woods with all of his "pro South" stuff (he's more down your ally on that), but he is a talented writer, the campaign did make some obvious mistakes, and Ron clearly wants Woods on board with what he's going now. That last point is the only one that really matters. If Ron Paul decides to hire Alex Jones as a speachwriter that's Ron Paul's decision. If Ron hired Glenn Beck, as much as I would hate that, that would still be Ron's decision. If you have a specific criticism of Tom other than Tom once did what you are doing now then fine. But...you don't.



It says a lot about you, actually.


Yes. I'm consistent. You are not.



I'm not at all worried about my reputation. Perhaps you should be concerned about your own.

Sister, I'm not the one going around being vulgar. Remind me never to take you seriously again when you complain about someone violating forum rules. You deserve a temp band for your "fellatio" comment, but I didn't report you because I don't roll that way. If you had any decency you'd temp ban yourself and cool off.

Edit: It's really simple. Is your loyalty with Ron Paul, or is it with his 2008/2012 campaign staff? Either you trust his judgement going forward, or you don't.

thehungarian
01-20-2013, 10:01 PM
Stahp.

truthspeaker
01-20-2013, 10:09 PM
And that's why I'm so pumped about Ron's "retirement" activities. Instead of playing bridge or golf, his hobby of purveying educationally induced activism is so inspiring. No doubt about it he's Founding Father material and then some.

YES! And he's coming to Houston this Saturday!

helmuth_hubener
01-20-2013, 11:48 PM
Good content, interesting, well-produced, funny. That's what Dr. Paul's new project needs. Professor Tom Woods can help with all that, in spades.

nemt4paul
01-22-2013, 12:46 AM
Perhaps you should have that discussion with green behind the gills.

There were a lot of people upset about the way Benton ran the campaign and many questioned if they were actually running to win.......I highly doubt Wood's comments had any real difference in the outcome of the campaign.

LibertyEagle
01-23-2013, 08:35 AM
Dearest Drake, if you want the discussion to stop, try shutting up.

jmdrake
01-23-2013, 10:12 AM
Dearest Drake, if you want the discussion to stop, try shutting up.

Dear LE. Thank you for the neg rep. And thank you for telling me to suck Tom Woods cock when all I told you was it was time for you to move on from your Tom Woods hatred now that Ron Paul has hired him. No, I'm not interested in doing that. I'm interested in supporting Ron Paul in whatever it is his new venture is. Apparently you are not. At least not to the extent where you are willing to respect his decision as far as Tom Woods is concerned. You don't have to agree with it, but that's no reason for you to be disrespectful of it. And attacking me as you have when all I did was defend his decision is disrespectful to us both. That shows to me and the rest of the world what a miserable person you are becoming if that wasn't really the real you already. You have all of this advice on how other people should behave, but you can't even take the mildest correction yourself. I was under the impression that you were older and at least somewhat wiser, but if you are, you are not acting your age.

Edit: Oh yeah. And next time if you're going to insult me at least spell check first. It's not spelled "fallatio".

LibertyEagle
01-23-2013, 01:18 PM
I never said that, Drake. Those are your words.

And thank you for the personal insults and the neg rep. I won't lower myself to your obvious low-level of behavior. So, have at it.

mac_hine
01-25-2013, 06:19 PM
He's great! The beginning of this podcast had me in hysterics.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLAww0y67ts

jkr
01-25-2013, 06:25 PM
Look
there are now 10 MILLION "ron pauls"
but only OnE tOm w00dz!

Deborah K
01-25-2013, 07:31 PM
And that's why I'm so pumped about Ron's "retirement" activities. Instead of playing bridge or golf, his hobby of purveying educationally induced activism is so inspiring. No doubt about it he's Founding Father material and then some.

I actually said that to him once, and he replied with a chuckle and said something like: Well, I wouldn't go that far.....

eleganz
01-26-2013, 02:08 AM
I actually said that to him once, and he replied with a chuckle and said something like: Well, I wouldn't go that far.....

good ol' ron...I fucking love that guy.

sailingaway
01-26-2013, 01:28 PM
Lew said he'd have a TV presence.... he keeps teasing.....

jllundqu
01-28-2013, 10:00 AM
Tom Woods attacked Ron's campaign. Benton didn't. HUGE difference.

Uh.... So Benton diggin his knife in our backs isn't "attacking" the campaign eh? Okie Dokie, now... bye bye then!

Romulus
01-28-2013, 11:34 AM
Can wait to see what this 'project' will be all about! Tom Woods is awesome.. pure awesome.

Natural Citizen
01-28-2013, 04:49 PM
And that's why I'm so pumped about Ron's "retirement" activities. Instead of playing bridge or golf, his hobby of purveying educationally induced activism is so inspiring. No doubt about it he's Founding Father material and then some.

He isn't doing anything unlike many other public servants who have since retired. Obviously when one is in a certain position of authority or influence he or she must absorb the yap of many. And yap that pertains to a vast scope of different issues. Once in official retirement these officials tend to have and make do with this time to focus on things that they themselves are interested in.

The only thing that makes me stutter step is Ron's ignorance in technology. Sure, the www is a wonderful thing and provides a tremendous platform. But there be vampires out there. I don't know that ron fully understands the business of the marketing that falls under this illusion of technology.

Also. One more thing while I'm reminded. People who are usually propped up under this synthetic illusion that they are "brilliant" don't frequently become involved in discussion in which they don't often present the terms of controversy themselves. Many who prop them up are simply doing so in an effort to appease self ignorance regaring many topics of discussion and seek a higher visionary. Just because one sounds as if they know a thing or three doesn't mean they will ever look to understand a thing or four or and five. Or instigate others to do as such.That's important to understand. But I digress...

Something that many who are concerned continue to keep a close eye on....

Personally, I don't trust many of the interested entities that Ron is now becoming technologically involved with as far as I can throw them. That's just my own opinion but an educated one at the very least. It's not that I question their morality as human beings, it's that I question where the bottom line lays. As should anyone who is willing to look beyond the meme to see that processes themselves are begining to become more and more conforming to the Intillectual Propertyish memes of today. Only heroes count their name, after all. Heck, all it takes to count is a static jpg. You know? "The lookit me, I'm popular crowd". Nope. Only legends leave atheir mark. I suspect that it's always been that way. Real ones, mind you. Not the self ordained flavor.

sailingaway
01-28-2013, 04:50 PM
He isn't doing anything unlike many other public servants who have since retired. Obviously when one is in a certain position of authority or influence he or she must absorb the yap of many. And yap that pertains to a vast scope of different issues. Once in official retirement these officials tend to have and make do with this time to focus on things that they themselves are interested in.

The only thing that makes me stutter step is Ron's ignorance in technology. Sure, the www is a wonderful thing and provides a tremendous platform. But there be vampires out there. I don't know that ron fully understands the business of the marketing that falls under this illusion of technology.

Something that many continue to monitor....

I'm still up for chipping in to a singing telegram bearing resumes to Ron, for just that reason....