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green73
01-14-2013, 08:09 PM
The White House has identified 19 executive actions for President Barack Obama to move unilaterally on gun control, Vice President Joe Biden told a group of House Democrats on Monday, the administration’s first definitive statements about its response to last month’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence, which are expected to include renewal of the assault weapons ban, universal background checks and prohibition of high-capacity magazine clips. But Biden, who has been leading Obama’s task force on the response, spent two hours briefing a small group of sympathetic House Democrats on the road ahead in the latest White House outreach to invested groups.

The focus on executive orders is the result of the White House and other Democrats acknowledging the political difficulty of enacting any new gun legislation, a topic Biden did not address in Monday’s meeting.

The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said.

“It was all focusing on enforcing existing law, administering things like improving the background database, things like that that do not involve a change in the law but enforcing and making sure that the present law is administered as well as possible,” said Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.).

The White House declined to comment on the details of what Obama will propose.

But Biden did indicate that the remains of the Obama campaign apparatus may be activated in the effort.

“He said that this has been a real focus on the policy and that the politics of this issue, that a strategy on the politics of the issue hasn’t been undertaken yet,” Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) told POLITICO. “He did remind us that the campaign infrastructure is still accessible.”

Biden did not address two of the more significant issues in the gun debate: the appointment of a permanent director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the role violent images in the entertainment industry play in the nation’s gun violence.

Obama touched on his expected legislative guns agenda at his own news conference in the East Room on Monday, while stressing the power he has via executive order.

“How we are gathering data, for example, on guns that fall into the hands of criminals, and how we track that more effectively — there may be some steps that we can take administratively as opposed through legislation,” Obama said.

Even Democrats who back gun control concede that reinstating an assault weapons ban — the 1994 law expired in 2004 — will be a heavy lift for the White House. During his meeting with gun-rights groups last week, Biden mentioned only an assault weapons ban when telling the NRA and other organizations that Obama has “made up his mind” to support it.

“I think everybody acknowledges that the assault weapons ban is a challenge, but other things — like the size of the magazines, the background checks, straw purchases — are all things that have a good chance of passing,” Scott said.

Speier said she told Biden the White House should do as much as it can on its own.

“I urged him to do as much by executive order as possible,” she said. “Frankly, I don’t have a lot of confidence that this Congress is going to do anything significant.”

And Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), the chairman of the House Democrats’ Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, said the magazine ban and universal background checks would be far more effective than an assault weapons ban without the political cost.

“Probably the most recognizable thing you can say in this debate is ban assault weapons,” Thompson said. “But the other two issues” — forbidding high-capacity ammunition magazines and requiring universal background checks for gun purchases — “those two things have more impact on making our neighborhoods safe than everything else combined. Anytime you try and prohibit what kind of gun people has it generates some concern.”

Biden’s personal gun violence outreach now includes the families of the 26 victims of the Dec. 14 school massacre in Newtown, Conn. Biden told the Monday meeting that he’s been reaching out to the families. A White House official confirmed the vice president has been in touch directly with some of the families.

“The vice president mentioned that he has called every one of the families that has lost children in Connecticut, and that the conversations have lasted no less than 45 minutes,” Speier said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/biden-guns-executive-actions-86187.html

Lucille
01-14-2013, 08:15 PM
19! Holy Toledo!

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alucard13mmfmj
01-14-2013, 08:18 PM
thank goodness its not 20 EO.

Anti Federalist
01-14-2013, 08:30 PM
Note how not a single one of these nineteen are listed in the article.

aloneinthewilderness
01-14-2013, 08:40 PM
Note how not a single one of these nineteen are listed in the article.Knowing what they are would only increase panic buying. On top of that, the ruled don't have any business knowing the plans and intentions of the ruling. We have no say anyway.

Danke
01-14-2013, 08:48 PM
Note how not a single one of these nineteen are listed in the article.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

madengr
01-14-2013, 09:03 PM
A fucking straw purchase is already illegal.

cbrons
01-14-2013, 09:09 PM
Well could be any day now that the civil war/revolution begins. I hope to see some of you guys around after the fuse gets lit. Sadly, since I live in a fascist state run by slime I will probably be conscripted into caring for Fedcoats on the med staff or I will be shot as a (counter)-revolutionary.

The fedcoats are dying to kill some innocent people, believe me, they love this. They're gunna come on some nice raids into the homes of some white gun owners at 0 dark thirty with a faux tip about some "illegal magazines" and when the owner wakes up thinking its a robber and picks up a gun they are gunna mow him down like he's a piece of trash. Al sharpton and the other subhumans on MSNBC are going to love to see those body bags with white "right-wingers" being carried out of houses while the family members sob on the grass!

QWDC
01-14-2013, 10:03 PM
Is it just wishful thing to hope that the House would start impeachment proceedings if this actually happens? The Senate wouldn't convict him but you have to do something to keep the integrity of the legislative branch and the system of checks and balances.

ghengis86
01-14-2013, 11:55 PM
Well could be any day now that the civil war/revolution begins. I hope to see some of you guys around after the fuse gets lit. Sadly, since I live in a fascist state run by slime I will probably be conscripted into caring for Fedcoats on the med staff or I will be shot as a (counter)-revolutionary.

The fedcoats are dying to kill some innocent people, believe me, they love this. They're gunna come on some nice raids into the homes of some white gun owners at 0 dark thirty with a faux tip about some "illegal magazines" and when the owner wakes up thinking its a robber and picks up a gun they are gunna mow him down like he's a piece of trash. Al sharpton and the other subhumans on MSNBC are going to love to see those body bags with white "right-wingers" being carried out of houses while the family members sob on the grass!

Head east on I-80 until you get past Lansing. I have a line on one or two rentals that could be yours. And a house if you're looking to purchase. Get the fuck out of that state as soon as you can. Finish your degree elsewhere.

Philhelm
01-15-2013, 01:56 AM
I'll admit that I'm scared and enraged with equal measure. I just want to live my life and be left alone by those who would seek to control me, but that isn't an option allowed to me apparently. How many good people will be killed or thrown into a dungeon because of this?

Philhelm
01-15-2013, 02:31 AM
The purchase of ammo by the DHS is fortuitously timed...

Acala
01-15-2013, 09:14 AM
Read carefully. The only hint as to what the EO's would be is here:

"The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said"

No gun or mag ban there.

specsaregood
01-15-2013, 09:18 AM
Read carefully. The only hint as to what the EO's would be is here:

"The executive actions could include giving the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention authority to conduct national research on guns, more aggressive enforcement of existing gun laws and pushing for wider sharing of existing gun databases among federal and state agencies, members of Congress in the meeting said"

No gun or mag ban there.

So gun ownership is a disease now? Guess its time to innoculate and isolate all those armed federal agents.

Original_Intent
01-15-2013, 09:21 AM
White House readies 19 Executive actions on gun control.
19 million gun owners ready their weapons.

dinosaur
01-15-2013, 09:29 AM
Well could be any day now that the civil war/revolution begins. I hope to see some of you guys around after the fuse gets lit. Sadly, since I live in a fascist state run by slime I will probably be conscripted into caring for Fedcoats on the med staff or I will be shot as a (counter)-revolutionary.

The fedcoats are dying to kill some innocent people, believe me, they love this. They're gunna come on some nice raids into the homes of some white gun owners at 0 dark thirty with a faux tip about some "illegal magazines" and when the owner wakes up thinking its a robber and picks up a gun they are gunna mow him down like he's a piece of trash. Al sharpton and the other subhumans on MSNBC are going to love to see those body bags with white "right-wingers" being carried out of houses while the family members sob on the grass!

I read once, that during the troubled times, in some parts of Ireland, they used to sleep outside in the fields instead of their houses. For similar reasons, I'm sure.

Lucille
01-15-2013, 09:43 AM
Biden did not address two of the more significant issues in the gun debate: the appointment of a permanent director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the role violent images in the entertainment industry play in the nation’s gun violence.

And then there's that which shall not be named.


Big Pharma is too important to die (http://www.fredoneverything.net/SovietAsylum.shtml). Kids don’t seem to be.


Later this week, Obama will formally announce his proposals to reduce gun violence...

Is that what we're calling gun-grabbing now. I had previously posted "all of which will prove to be futile," but deleted it since we know "reducing gun violence" is not the objective here.

Obama Promises the Impossible: 'Common-Sense' Gun Controls That Will Prevent Mass Murders
http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/14/obama-promises-the-impossible-common-sen

He should really start with himself, mass murdering sociopath that he is.

shane77m
01-15-2013, 10:40 AM
RPF people need a way to identify themselves with each other in the field just in case things go bad.

nobody's_hero
01-15-2013, 11:53 AM
A fucking straw purchase is already illegal.

But now it's gonna be super-for-real-illegal with illegal cherries on top!

nobody's_hero
01-15-2013, 11:55 AM
RPF people need a way to identify themselves with each other in the field just in case things go bad.

Easy. I'll be the guy on the hilltop with a bayonet stuck through my chest, reaching for another mag and spouting profanities, lol. It'll probably look something like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jspBoP0Ns5Q

green73
01-15-2013, 11:59 AM
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3a0K.835KOXFEd8P0HLX0g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTM4MA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-01-14T175538Z_294250281_GM1E91F05BY01_RTRMADP_3_USA-OBAMA.JPG
GUN CONTROL WEDNESDAY (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/15/white-house-to-announce-gun-plans-wednesday/?wpisrc=al_comboNP_p)
http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

pahs1994
01-15-2013, 12:01 PM
RPF people need a way to identify themselves with each other in the field just in case things go bad.

Hmmm the RPF regiment flag can be yellow/gold for libertarian. Perhaps throw a few trees on there to represent liberty forest. the letters RPF and a picture of Toady can be stuck on there also.
Just make whatever you like using as many inside jokes as possible. When we see you on the field we will know =)